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need help settling a smoking arguement with roomate by CalicoDreams
Started on: 12-27-2004 02:46 PM
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Report this Post12-27-2004 02:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CalicoDreamsSend a Private Message to CalicoDreamsDirect Link to This Post
okay this is how it goes... my roomate smokes, and I do not, but we had an argument and can't decided who was right. He says that smoking through copper will give you lockjaw or something like that. any direct fire contact is on brass then smoke goes through copper shortly after... any experts? anybody know of any other metals that do?
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Report this Post12-27-2004 03:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for LITEDAZESend a Private Message to LITEDAZEDirect Link to This Post
smoking through copper is a very bad idea, i'm not sure what it does exactly, but it's pretty friggin toxic, DON'T DO IT...........EVER........!!!
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Report this Post12-27-2004 04:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for avengador1Send a Private Message to avengador1Direct Link to This Post
I think it has something to do with the copper ions being inhaled while you smoke. Don't most people use brass? Maybe brass is less resistant to oxidizing or ionozing, so you get less of it in your system.
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Report this Post12-27-2004 05:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ray bSend a Private Message to ray bDirect Link to This Post
we used brass pipes in the 60's
and allmost 40 years later
we are still here

but brass is mostly copper plus a little zink and tin

lockjaw is a tetnus germ result ,
not from any metal pipe smoke

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Report this Post12-27-2004 06:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ryan.hessSend a Private Message to ryan.hessDirect Link to This Post
I'm confused... you sure you're not confusing copper with PVC?
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Report this Post12-27-2004 06:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DjDragginSend a Private Message to DjDragginDirect Link to This Post
any lead base or iron type of pipes are bad for you.. that i know, but can't help on the other metals. I Do know Aluminum cans are ok.. LOL Hey I'm an Eagle scout.. Be prepared!!

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Report this Post12-27-2004 06:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickDirect Link to This Post
As far as I'm aware, it's only lead or lead solder which is definitely harmful. Oh, and so is the smoke...

[EDIT] There's also some suspicion that the use of aluminum cookware may eventually lead to Alzheimer's.

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Report this Post12-27-2004 07:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GSXRBOBBYClick Here to visit GSXRBOBBY's HomePageSend a Private Message to GSXRBOBBYDirect Link to This Post
WHAT?
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Report this Post12-27-2004 08:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for yater13Send a Private Message to yater13Direct Link to This Post
Aluminum has been linked to alzheimers. Most alzheimers patients exhibit an elevated level of aluminum in the brain. As for the smoking question, go to http://www.totse.com/bin/bbs/Ultimate.cgi and ask in the better living thru chemistry forum.
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Originally posted by yater13:

Aluminum has been linked to alzheimers. Most alzheimers patients exhibit an elevated level of aluminum in the brain.

I have heard this as well. But before you throw out your aluminum cookware, check your deodorant in the bathroom. I'll wager it's primary ingredient is "Aluminum Oxide." What better way to get Al into your blood than by spreading it across your skin so it's directly absorbed - every day!

It's nearly impossible to find an anti-perspriant/deodorant that doesn't have Al-Oxide. You can find a few, but usually only deodorants that don't have anti-perspriants in them. Some natural anti-perspirants also don't have it.

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Report this Post12-27-2004 08:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for yater13Send a Private Message to yater13Direct Link to This Post
formula88. I agree. Also, look at soda, beer etc..... Everything out there is going to kill you anyway. Just weigh how much risk you're willing to take, and go for it.
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Report this Post12-27-2004 09:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroRumorClick Here to visit FieroRumor's HomePageSend a Private Message to FieroRumorDirect Link to This Post
We make new Technology, and we live longer, but we also introduce a fun new way to die!
In the future, you'll be hearing how people are having weird brain injuries...and it will because there are nanoparticles stuck in there, due to this nanotechnology stuff...When they first started talking about this stuff years back, i remember hearing them say how theses things can be small enough to travel through the blood-brain barrier. to "do repairs"...BUT it that's true, then so can their "hubcaps" (spare bit n pieces)...they found buckyballs and other stuff lodged in the brains of fish when they added some nanotechnology"waste products" into their test tank.

Interesting stuff.

*chews on some "Mad Cow beef jerky*

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Report this Post12-27-2004 09:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Cadillac JackSend a Private Message to Cadillac JackDirect Link to This Post
I beleive that smoking through copper will most likely cause lung cancer or something similar. If the copper has been soldered with lead/tin solder then you might get enough lead to cause lead poisining. I suggest that you build your bong out of brass and solder it with silver solder. Glass works well but you can get hurt when you fall forward on it.
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Report this Post12-27-2004 09:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Formula88:

I have heard this as well. But before you throw out your aluminum cookware, check your deodorant in the bathroom. I'll wager it's primary ingredient is "Aluminum Oxide." What better way to get Al into your blood than by spreading it across your skin so it's directly absorbed - every day!

It's nearly impossible to find an anti-perspriant/deodorant that doesn't have Al-Oxide. You can find a few, but usually only deodorants that don't have anti-perspriants in them. Some natural anti-perspirants also don't have it.

Never use the stuff

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Report this Post12-27-2004 09:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BoondawgSend a Private Message to BoondawgDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by CalicoDreams:

okay this is how it goes... my roomate smokes, and I do not, but we had an argument and can't decided who was right. He says that smoking through copper will give you lockjaw or something like that. any direct fire contact is on brass then smoke goes through copper shortly after... any experts? anybody know of any other metals that do?

I've used brass for 30 some years. Noticed have effects not I any ill.

If the objective is untainted smoke, glass is always a safe bet.

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Report this Post12-27-2004 10:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GridlockSend a Private Message to GridlockDirect Link to This Post
I stil don't understand the question?

Is this a copper pipe for bud, or for tobacco? What's wrong with paper? Aren't most pipes ceramic or glass?

I'm confused.

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Report this Post12-27-2004 10:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CertifiedMechanicSend a Private Message to CertifiedMechanicDirect Link to This Post
maybe they are using it to hold the crack in the pipe?
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Report this Post12-27-2004 10:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Ken WittliefSend a Private Message to Ken WittliefDirect Link to This Post
copper poisoning is the least of your worries
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