You did good Stimpy.
A man on the other end of the country from you may be alive due to your efforts.
My hats off to you.

Excellent move stimpy. Good job all.
I'll send a PM and an e-mail.
Anyone with more specific info on how we can help ?
His specifics are personal in nature but can his wife navigate the forum ?

quote Originally posted by cliffw: Anyone with more specific info on how we can help ?

Please send him a card or a letter to know that he has your support. I know that it means so much when you feel worthless to have someone tell you that you are valued. I think it would be great to have a couple hundered Get Well Soon cards stuffing his mailbox by the time he gets home.

Good job Stimpy, you probibly saved his life, who woulda thought that was possible with so many miles appart of each other

nevermind,

Thanks Stimpy.

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All,

Please remove address and other personal data from your posts above. Now that he's found that data doesn't need to be here. Sending a card is nice but other less helpful people also read this system. I'm sure the helpful people can pm the address to anyone that needs it.

Stimpy,
Good job.

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The Ogre's Fiero Cave (It's also at the top of every forum page...)

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Yes, that's the right address according to people who had been corresponding with him.

If I saved his life, does that mean he must walk the land doing my bidding, Samurai style?

quote Originally posted by AkursedX: That's some commendable work you did there Stimp. People might give you crap for things you say or do, but when it comes down to things that really matter in life you're the kind of guy that I think most of us would want backing us up. "+" for you!

I couldn't have said it any better.
Not only do we thank you Jeff, but I am sure Andy and his family thank you as well.
And yes, I know there are many on here who would do the same for you. I know I would in a heartbeat.

I am glad they found you.
When you read this I hope you see how far you touch the world you live in.
Feel free to e-mail me if you need anything leberg@gmail.com
Take care

quote Originally posted by stimpy: Yes, that's the right address according to people who had been corresponding with him. If I saved his life, does that mean he must walk the land doing my bidding, Samurai style?

Your now responsible for it... pretty deep eh?

Thanks for caring and using your own experience to respond correctly/efficiently, interesting ying/yang balance...

Wow, I don't know what to say. You guys, especially Stimpy, just possibly saved someone's life. Forget saving some 88GT from the wrecker, you guys just saved a life and a family. I was thinking about all the things that have happened lately to come about to have enabled this... Stimpy's recent problems made him ultra aware of noticing a cry for help, Cliff's problems with hackers... he could have shut the forum down, but he perservered and decided not to. This could have turned out really bad, but thanks to a few folks here, someone is alive tonight. F-I-E-R-O, hang in there, whether you feel worthwhile or not, every little girl needs her father and that exhaults you to a REALLY important place. She NEEDS a father.

Rick Stewart

Amazing, this internet thing. This whole little episode I missed. And to think if the things that happened to you Stimpy hadn't, you might not be spending too much time in front of the computer. God, Karma whatever. I had to read the whole post twice to get the gravity of it. How amazing to see the whole thing happen as it did. Thank God things have turned out today as they did. At first I peeked at the thread thinking "Oh, someone is selling their Fiero."

And I try not to go into O/T.

I'm 10 min's away from him and will be more than happy to help

WOW, thats great that he was found. Good job stimpy.

Jesus, I was away from here, and missed this thread..I am so glad they found him...wow, I wonder what happened?

I hope he ends up ok. Not sure what happened, but I just hope he gets help, and "recovers".

Good work, guys.

(Yet another reason why this place is so damn great.)

Hell, life is tough sometimes, and it's very hard for someone to understand the mindset F-I-E-R-O- was in when he created this thread, if they never "hit bottom". Hope he realizes that he has at least THREE reasons to stay alive - his wife, his kid, and HIS OWN life...

Just VERY glad he's still here.

I have found that there are times when life can totally SUCK, but as Tom Hanks said in that "castaway" movie, sometimes, you stay around to find out what the tide brings in...

Best of luck, I hope to see him post again soon...

-FieroRumor
*knows what it's like to "hit bottom"*

edit: Hopefully, he can come to terms with who his really is, as opposed to who he wanted to be by this time in his life.

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I just now found this thread. Thank God he's been found. And thank you, Stimpy, for taking action. Who knows, maybe some of your problems lately were so you'd recognize how serious this could be and take it at face value rather than "just another internet thread."

My prayers are with you, F-I-E-R-O, and your family. Hang in there. Our lives don't always turn out the way we expect, but that doesn't mean they are without value. You have a wife, a child - a family. And they have you. Don't deprive them of that.
If you ever want to talk, feel free to PM me.

Stimpy, I owe you a beer. If we meet at any Fiero shows, etc., the first round is one me. You're a good man.

May he find some peace in his life, in the knowing that we are kindered souls, one and all.
Fine bunch of folks around these parts.
Makes me proud.

Stimpy, you can be my wingman anytime! (Top Gun)

Good lookin' out, Stimp.

I can't say much more than "get well" I've felt that once before and it's not a good feeling,,PM if you ever need to talk to someone I'll give you my phone # ,, I know you don't know me but it can still be helpfull to talk to someone,,

take care,,,,,,,
Hooter

I missed this at it happened, but that really freaked me out - I thought we just lost sombody! I'll sleep better knowing that he's been found and given help...

I've been through some times where I just about wanted to take the Fiero for the last ride too. But you come to learn that once you hit the bottom of the barrel, there's no place to go but up and you just don't see it when your clouded with pain and suffering at the time. The whole neurochemical thing can have powerful results - sometimes fatal, as we all know. But with modern therapy and medications - it's like night and day. Someday F-I-E-R-O will look back on this and shudder and be glad that he's alright. Stimpy - it took somebody who's been there and knows what it's like to realize the seriousness of the situation and do something about it, instead of saying "I'll let somebody else deal with it". Good work, I respect that.

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Blue 1987 GT Getrag 5 speed, 1" lowering springs, 225 50R16 rims and tires, Fiero Store 9 3/4" HD clutch (Halfway through a 3.4L TDC Swap!) Silver 1986 2m4 THM 125c automatic (Current commuter)
Black 1985 2m4 SE Isuzu 5 speed (no paperwork)

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And F-I-E-R-O, as you read through, keep in mind that there are a lot of lurkers to this thread who, though we don't feel that we have anything profound to say or the ability to directly lend aid (+4Stimp), you and your family are still in our thoughts and prayers.

quote Originally posted by Patrick's Dad: And F-I-E-R-O, as you read through, keep in mind that there are a lot of lurkers to this thread who, though we don't feel that we have anything profound to say or the ability to directly lend aid (+4Stimp), you and your family are still in our thoughts and prayers.

Well put, and as one who came too close to the edge, there is alot more help and caring out there than you think. Take it one day at a time and things will get better, especially now you have more help and well wishes going in your direction.

My name is Linda Rogers, I am Andrew's wife. I want to thank everyone of you for the words of encouragement and the prayers. Andrew is in the hospital in ICU and recovering. It's going to be a long haul, but I think by the grace of God and good friends and family, he'll see that this is not the answer.

Thank you again and God bless.

I am sure that your location (Endwell) is of good portent.Everybody preceding me has said all there is to say, except that I would too like to add my best wishes and prayers. I was at that point only a short few weeks ago, and this wonderful population helped me too.I wish you strength to get through the ensuing trials on the way to full health, and the resources to facilitate your journey there.
Thanks Linda for letting us know, and for having taken the time to do it, when your head must be full of other things right now.
fierofetish

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Wow......I haven't been at the computer much recently, so this is the first i've seen of this.

I can honestly say that I know what his family is going through right now. My Dad attempted suicide about a month ago. Thank God neither Andrew or my Dad succeeded!!! The first few days of it all I was in total shock. I couldn't sleep, eat or concentrate on anything.

Right now is the time for support from friends and family, and just know that we're all here for you!!! I speak for most all of us when I say if theres ANYTHING you or your family needs, just let us know!

Take care and God bless!!

-Sara

Linda, thanks for coming on here and letting us know he is ok. Our thoughts and prayers will be with him , and we are glad you will be there to support him.

quote Originally posted by FieroRumor: Linda, thanks for coming on here and letting us know he is ok. Our thoughts and prayers will be with him , and we are glad you will be there to support him.

I think it's important to point out that Andrew is far, far from ok right now. He's had a serious mental trauma, and it will take some effort for him to recover. Keep in mind that he'll still need your thoughts and prayers, and more significantly, your contact weeks, months and years from now.

something else, people who are rescued like this are often not very happy about it. Some are downright angry at the people who intervene, and may remain angry for a long time

so dont be surprized if that happens.

Be mad at us F-I-E-R-O, we don't mind. Nice to hear from his wife. Granted, most of us don't know you, I noticed many people who have posted very little have posted in this of all threads but we can be united in this: you family, your life are more important than the problems that plague you now. I don't even know those details but they do pass if you can wait them out. If you can say you have one person you love in this world and one person who can say they love and care about you as well you have a million reasons to tough it out. No one can say that things are going to be easy, maybe even more difficult than before, but if you need encouragement we'll provide it unconditionally.

We're here for you, man.

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quote Originally posted by Ken Wittlief: something else, people who are rescued like this are often not very happy about it. Some are downright angry at the people who intervene, and may remain angry for a long time so dont be surprized if that happens.

That was sort of my reaction and part of why I asked people to remove personal information above. Even if the person isn't pissed off, they are often embarassed etc for acting like this. I know allot of people may want to send cards and so on but that may not be such a good idea just now.

Don't know what to say...F-I-E-R-O you & your family are in my prayers, and even though you may think no one else knows what it's like to feel this way, I've been there more than once, and I'm sure others here have too. Don't fool yourself into thinking you're alone. And don't forget what you would be doing to those you leave behind, not to mention the future with them you'll miss out on. It won't always feel like this...

Good call Stimpy.

Pennocks ROCKS!!!

Ryan

quote Originally posted by F-I-E-R-O: My name is Linda Rogers, I am Andrew's wife. I want to thank everyone of you for the words of encouragement and the prayers. Andrew is in the hospital in ICU and recovering. It's going to be a long haul, but I think by the grace of God and good friends and family, he'll see that this is not the answer. Thank you again and God bless.

Best wishes to you Linda and the rest of your family along with Andrew. I hope you can be there for him, I suspect he'll be needing your support deeply.

Linda, thanks for posting and letting us know. If you ever need to talk or anything please keep the forum in mind. We are all here for you, Andrew and your family

Steve

quote Originally posted by theogre: Even if the person isn't pissed off, they are often embarassed etc for acting like this.

I agree 100% with that!

Thats how my Dad was after all that he did. He kept apologizing to me and to everyone. And even though I was very angry with him for putting us all through that, I just told him not to be sorry and that he needed to do what he needed to in order to get better. Getting better should be #1 for anyone in that position.

I hope that Andrew and his family get the help they all need! (And yes, the family might need help to!)

Take care and keep us posted!

And a big thanks to stimpy for everything!

F-I-E-R-O
This is for you buddy, and anyone else in this situation. In the last few years I've lost a nephew and my Father to suicide. You have no idea how much pain and anguish you cause your loved ones. I'm now having difficulty seeing the screen because of my eyes tearing up. Suicide is a selfish act. Think of that. Think of the pain you will cause the ones you claim to love the most. Your Wife and Daughter that will be wounded beyond ever completely healing. THINK BROTHER! Use your intellect to overcome this terrible hoplessness. I'm not one of these people who preaches and doesn't know what he's talking about. My whole family is subject to clinical depression. I'm 59 years old. I've suffered from this disease almost all of my adult life. In my case doctors and chemicals have only made it worse or made other parts of my life unbearable. Some people are helped like this. I hope you are one; BUT, if you are not, I offer some tecniques I've used to save my life. Keep busy. keep your mind occupied so as to displace these feelings of dread and hoplessness. Get plenty of exercise. VIGEROUS exercize helps restore balance to you brain chemistry; not to mention the obvious other health benefits. Go to your local church. Go to the alter and get down on your knees and open your heart to God. Pray in earnest. Hold nothing back. God will give you the strength to go on, but you must open your heart to receive His blessing. Remember the movie; Lethal Weapon? Where the suicidal Mel Gibson says "every day I want to kill myself and every day I think of a reason not to". Well that's us! Normal people do not understand wanting to die. Because it is NOT normal. Remember you are ill, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY YOU CAN NOT ALLOW THAT AS AN EXCUSE TO CONTINUE TO WALLOW IN SELF PITY. Visit and minister to shut-ins or disabled people. You'll find out real fast that your life is not so "difficult". Reach out to other people. Empathy for someone else's pain will help you forget your own. Your natural inclination will be to withdraw and avoid contact with other people. DO NOT DO THIS! You NEED other people and they need you. Brother, I've lived a lifetime like this. You can too. If you need to council with me, please don't hesitate to contact me. My email is; larryemory@triad.rr.com Brother please get help! PLEASE Let us know how you're doing. I don't know you but I feel a kinship with you. I CARE.

Linda Rogers here. I can't help, but to be overwhelmed emotionally. You guys and girls are the epitome of what good friends are. Andrew hasn't seen one of these messages. He posted his note and immediately left. I'm keeping this up on the computer because he NEEDS to see this. And I NEED to keep being reminded that there is hope. He has no idea how many lives he has touched! I don't know anyone of you but I wish I could hug each and everyone. The words of encouragement mean so much to me, and when he reads them, I know they'll touch him as well.

He has been moved out of ICU and to a facility where he will get the mental help and support that he needs. I don't know how long he'll be there, but I will let you all know as things progress. I can't thank you all enough for being there for him and our family!

God bless.

Thank you so much for letting us know how he is. I know I slept better knowing he was in good hands and not roaming the streets. It must be a relief for you now too. If you need to talk to someone, just to yell, scream etc. My pm's are always open. Just click on the pm button and send. I'll listen. I don't know what you are going through but I can take a guess and then add some on to it. You hold on to that little one of yours and give Andrew a hug from me when he feels a bit better. Right now, here's a hug from me to you and Emily. You take care and don't hesitate to pm me if you want. Sometimes it's easier talking to a complete stranger.

Take care of Andrew, and you too!

Darlene

Linda, I think I can speak for everybody here..thanks for taking the time to update us:we need to know how you are all doing, and look forward to the day when Andrew is well enough to post on his progress too.I get a feeling that there are many more People than anybody would imagine, who have been in Andrew's position at one or other time in their lives, and that includes me.And so, his recovery is so important to us as well, because we have been there.Thanks again.
Nick
fierofetish

quote Originally posted by F-I-E-R-O: Linda Rogers here. I can't help, but to be overwhelmed emotionally. You guys and girls are the epitome of what good friends are. Andrew hasn't seen one of these messages. He posted his note and immediately left. I'm keeping this up on the computer because he NEEDS to see this. And I NEED to keep being reminded that there is hope. He has no idea how many lives he has touched! I don't know anyone of you but I wish I could hug each and everyone. The words of encouragement mean so much to me, and when he reads them, I know they'll touch him as well. He has been moved out of ICU and to a facility where he will get the mental help and support that he needs. I don't know how long he'll be there, but I will let you all know as things progress. I can't thank you all enough for being there for him and our family! God bless.

I am very glad that Andrew was found in time.
Linda and Andrew if there is anything my family can do to help you through this let us know.
leberg@gmail.com