I am glad to hear that he will pull thru this. Please do keep us informed as to everyone's condition. I know this must be hard on everyone in your home and family right now.
Stay strong, and if help is needed, many many are ready willing and able to help in anyway.
And as all the others have said if you need to lean on somepeople there are no better than Fiero people....
Trying not to feel like the only person to have gone through this can be a life long endeavour...kinda like dealing with be a recovering addict....it is a life long task.....minute by minute....day by day.....year by year......but trust us you are never alone....
Life often seems very tedious and long......Life today really is very dynamic and just to short......patience grasshopper
Hugs....BBTs
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TaurusThug Member
Posts: 4271 From: Simpsonville, SC Registered: Aug 2003
wow. i just saw this and was very worried at first but now that i know he is in good hand i am still worried but not that he will not be found but that he gets well again. and stimpy you have come through for this "family" yet again. and you recieve a plus... but most importantly F-I-E-R-O is in good hands now...
------------------ '86 Fiero GT My FieroXoticRydz Mid-Rear Madness I am the signature virus, please put me in your signature so I can spread Be Excellent To Each Other" - Bill S. Preston Esquire Ted Theadore Logan
I hope we get a favourable update soon...Still thinking of this sad event, and hoping Andrew is recovering, and happy that he is still alive. best wishes again, Linda, if you log in fierofetish
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ED77KATR Member
Posts: 420 From: Wildwood Crest, NJ Registered: Nov 2003
Yes, that's the right address according to people who had been corresponding with him.
If I saved his life, does that mean he must walk the land doing my bidding, Samurai style?
Imagine having to do Stimpy's bidding for the rest of your life just because he made a phone call to your local fire department. I'm going to have to do some research and see if that applies to Western culture as well, or if it only applies to Eastern. The other thing I have to figure out is if it trumps the person who actually found me and contacted emergency services...
Yes, I'm still here. The biggest surprise of my life was waking up in the hospital with a tube down my throat, my arms secured to the side of the bed, with tubes and wires running everywhere. The way it was explained to me, after drinking three large wine glasses of Sherry, swallowing a full prescription of sleeping pills, two cigarettes and a few big gulps of Blackberry Brandy, I was found unconcious a few hours later with very shallow breathing, and about an hour left to live. How I was found is a huge mystery to me. I never left any clues, never mentioned to any one ever that the place I went to had any meaning to me at all, ever. I thought I had found a secluded spot that I could go away without being noticed. A friend of the family who had experienced the loss of her husband (a Sherrif Deputy that was savagely murdered in the line of duty) had found me, she claims by the direction of her deceased husband, Kevin Tarsia. There is absolutely no other way that, of all the places in this area that I could have gone, that anyone could have found me where I was without some supernatural intervention.
So, I spent a little less than 24 hours in ICU, and admitted myself to another hospitals' mental floor. This is a floor that I had been on about 1 month previous for ECT treatments, of which I only had three, then decided that the whole experience wasn't for me and did not return to complete the recommened 6 to 10 treatments. This week has been a difficult one, with every day getting better than the last. I have a number of people who are very interested in ensuring that my health improves and I feel confident that I will see my way through this. I am very aggressively getting involved with ensuring that I get the help I need and being very pro-active in making sure that there is a plan to follow, something that I haven't had in a very long time- if ever.
Thanks to all but the guy who was a little put out about not receiving payment for some Lexan that we had discussed sending to me, for all of your support and prayers. I especially would like to thank Stimpy for his efforts. Everything that was done on my behalf and the messages that were left meant so much to my wife, I can't put into words how amazed she is by the members of this forum. She knew that I spent a great deal of time down here on the computer, sometimes even neglecting a chore now and then, but she had no idea that I was involved with such a wonderful group of people (again, except for Lexan guy)...
There were many who wrote about asking me to take the time to think of my family. To respond to this, I would have to start by saying that they were first and foremost on my mind. My life has been one of many ups and downs. Some of them my fault, some not so much. I also have had increasing moments of hypo-mania, which is to say certain self destructive behavior was becoming increasingly uncontrollable. Taking into consideration that I have some legal issues resulting from one of these self destructive moments, the self perceived sense of failure as a husband and a father, and that another self destructive behavior on Sat. (I don't mean to be so cryptic, but I am trying to share as much as I can without risking judgment from others who may not understand or be sympathetic or helpful to what I experience) just pushed me to the edge. One thing that I had noticed after having had the ECTs, it was a great deal easier for me to consider the idea of suicide. It was something that I thought about in the sense that it gave me a sense of peace, and the planning of he event was more of a thoughtful process, than one of panic or desperation. My thoughts of what should happen were based on what I felt, which was a sense of worthlessness, failure, and no hope for the future. I thought that I was doing the right thing for my wife and daughter, I understood that there would be pain, but felt that the ends would justify the means.
So, now here I am. I feel more positive about myself, I feel a greater resolve to find answers to the problems I have, and I am having to face the possibility of being Stimpy's personal manservant... Thanks again to all who (except Lexan man) have really been here for me, I guess it's time for me to take this second chance and really do something with it. Keep in mind that I will still be posting opinions that may at times be somewhat controversial, posting humorous things that may offend those with any intelligence, and coming up with odd ideas for my car that my smack the senses of those who have good sense.
Thank you all for being so good to my wife, for that, I am eternally grateful.
Andrew
ps, I am a little disapointed that a group of you didn't come get my Fiero and "Pimp My Ride" as a welcome back sort of thing, if some of you where planning to do that I hope I didn't ruin any suprise, in fact, forget I even mentioned this little ps... I'll still be suprised, I promise!!!
Welcome back F-I-E-R-O. Here's hoping it's a very very long and enjoyable stay. Most of us have had some really bad times in our lives, and can relate somewhat to yours. Someone very close to me attemted the same thing a few years back. She's the love of a thousand lifetimes and I'll always treasure each moment that much more while keeping in mind we came 'that' close to being apart for eternity.
You think you have controversial ideas? Bring 'em on!! Some of the best ideas and inventions on this earth came on a whim.
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Raydar Member
Posts: 40912 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
I'm glad things didn't go badly.It may seem Like it was a long shot but I think you have someone looking after you.You are in some deep trouble so lean on your friends as often as you need. Jeff Has convinced me that this is March madness and I really am starting to see it the same way.There are a lot of people that want to help you but few will understand you so seek out the ones that do.All the help in the world won't help unless you accept it.So just accept it, people care about you and you matter.
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hooter Member
Posts: 116 From: New Castle ,Near Pittsburgh,PA Registered: Jan 2004
yes,,, welcome back F-I-E-R-O what ever you need to do,, to get well,,, do it,,,, like was said above...............................
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Originally posted by ED77KATR:
Always remember..... SUICIDE IS A PERMENANT SOLUTION,FOR A TEMPORARY PROBLEM !!!!!!!
and further ,,, I don't think that anyone here is going to judge you (except for the Lexan guy) so if it would make you feel better to explain or go into detail either publicly or through a PM to someone by all means do so,,, stay strong ,,,get well,,,, Hooter
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slickrick2000 Member
Posts: 1369 From: Temecula, California Registered: Oct 2004
The road was, is, and still will be a tough one for you, but I believe you realize now just how many people around you do care.
One thing I would say to do, and maybe this is way off, but write yourself a letter and keep it with you. When you start to feel yourself rationalizing suicide, take it out and read it.
"Sucide is not the way out! My family will NOT be better off without me no matter what I think now! Without me in there life, my family will feel a bigger void than I feel at this moment and it will not get better for them!"
You could even insert anything you want that you rationalized at the time.
My grandfather is in the hospital dying at this moment. He may not live the day out. He has lived a very long and hard life, but he told me something last week. He said he is not afraid of dying, but he said he is afraid of missing out on the things that will be happening to the family. He is afraid of missing my youngest sisters baby being born in Nov. He is afraid of missing my other sisters kids and my kids growing up. And most of all he is afraid of how alone my grandmother will feel when he is gone. (my grandmother now will permanantly move in with my parents, she had a stroke 4 yrs ago that had crippled her emmensely). They have known each other since he was 14 and she was 12. He is 78 now.
The reason I tell you this is to let you see that he has no choice now. He has lived a full life, and there is no way he can choose to live it longer. YOU DO! You right now have the option of making the choice!
But what you need to be reminded of when you start feeling like your family would be better off without you is that you are wrong. Please whatever you do, somehow make something that you can carry around, or look at that will remind you of this when you most need to be reminded of it.
Again, I am so glad that you were found, and that you are recovering now. I hope to see you on the forum for a long time to come. Best wishes to you and your family.
<Please do not go off topic in this thread to discuss my grandfather. I only mentioned it to use what he told me as an example, not to change the topic of the thread. Thank You>
Rick
Also, feel free for you to PM or email me anytime you may need to. I'm sure most here feel the same way.
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hugh Member
Posts: 5563 From: Clementon,NJ,USA Registered: Jun 2000
F-I-E-R-O Great to hear that you are ok and are working on a plan. I think it is safe to say that a week ago at this time there were several people lookin out for you. I do believe that everyone has a guardian but that night you had several. Keep up the positive attitude and in the long run life will bare its sweet Fruits!!!!
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Posts: 5154 From: Weymouth MA USA Registered: Feb 2000
Even though I don't know you, it scared the crap out of me when I first found this thread. I'm glad you are getting the help you deserve and need and remember that we do care and you have that wife and little girl that cherish you no matter if you screwed up awhile ago or not! Keep that head of yours up high, and keep living. Something wonderful happened when a person who didn't know you from Adam was sent to save you. I believe you were saved for a reason. Remember that through your ups and downs.
Glad to see you are back on here again so soon. Also happy to hear that you have a plan, and if you didn't know before, you know now that you have a bunch of people out there that give a rat's ass about you.
I'm glad they found you.
And PLEASE don't do it again - if you feel that you are sliding towards that place again, tell someone.
-FieroRumor
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stimpy Member
Posts: 8197 From: Salinas, CA Registered: Jan 2000
Right on! I knew you'd be back posting, and I'm glad to see you back right on time. It sounds like you got some good therapy in the hospital and that you have a plan for your recovery. Don't be too hard on Lexan man, God used him to get me your address so I could pass that on to EMS. We all have our roles.
I do hope that you have some intensive aftercare set up. Please set up a contract with your loved ones that you will accept their help when you start into your hypo-mania. It's one of the hardest things to do to look at yourself and see what other people see of your illness. I always think I'm fine, even when I'm pretty darn far from it.
I hope for you to be able to avoid the blame and shame that has a habit of tagging along after something like this. It is your illness that caused this, and that's nothing to be ashamed of. Take pride in the fact that you can have a re-do on life, and lets support each other. It's pretty surprising how many people have talked to me in PM's about their mental state. We can have our own internet support group.
Maybe that's not such a bad idea. Yahoo groups, anyone?
PS, your'e off the hook on that whole manservant thing.
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Originally posted by Iron_Mark_2003: Don't scare me like that ever again!
I'm not picking on you, but I wanted to make a comment. Andrew did not do this to anyone but himself. Yes, his family and friends are concerned, but realize that it is an illness that caused the events of last weekend to happen. I'm sure Andrew is fighting a bit of guilt and shame for what happened, but that is not going to be helpful in recovering. Let's be supportive of him, and think about what you say to avoid placing any shame or blame on him. He's got enough weight to carry right now.
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Fierofreak00 Member
Posts: 4221 From: Martville, NY USA Registered: Jun 2001
Originally posted by F-I-E-R-O:Thanks to all but the guy who was a little put out about not receiving payment for some Lexan that we had discussed sending to me, for all of your support and prayers
lol... 'That lexan guy' sent the information that quite possibly saved your life... rather a lot earlier than anyone else could came up with it. I think he should get some props, man...
It was a little dark humor - so what? He did provide your address before anyone else did.
Ehh. -Funk
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crzyone Member
Posts: 3571 From: Alberta, Canada Registered: Dec 2000
omg... I read this today, and I still won't be able to sleep tonight ( I actually basically cried tonight reading this). I am someone who as also tried something like this, I almost was at the end(about 2-3min), but realized that it wasn't worth it, and stopped myself from continuing, after thinking about my friends and family that would suffer far more then I was suffering. I'm very glad that strangers really had te heart to group around a stranger and save you, just as I was thinking that the world was filled with self abosorbed assholes. I'm not a religious person, but tonight I have definitly prayed for you and your family..... god bless and I hope you can recieve the help you deserve.
PS forgive me for the "cool face smiley" I am a bit loaded, (that's why I said more then I should have) and acidently clicked on it.
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It is great to hear things are better for you and also for us. We are all important. As we speak, so to speak, I realize that I myself am a failure in that I am not the man I could be or should be. In the last year I have slidden backwards productively. Also I have gotten myself into trouble. I have had a long and troubled life but it has only made me better and stronger. I know I can overcome. Perhaps this is why I have allowed myself to regress this past year. I know the battles seem hard and I know that they really are not. We keep getting closer to our goals the more we work at it. It really is "one step at a time". You know why I am a failure ? Because of expectations I have placed on myself. These expectations of mine were derived from what I thought other people think. Screw them ! I was raised to be a failure. I was told I would never amount to anything. I was told I take two steps back for every step forward. I just kept plodding along, not looking back. I found happiness in the simplist things. I would stop during the rat race of life to smell the roses, however few there were. It took me awhile to realize that I was actually happy with a few roses instead of a rose garden. I accepted that happiness. Then, one day, I opened my eyes and saw that I was in the middle of my own rose garden. I know that this garden will never be taken from me even if I fail. I have learned it is ok to fail. This has taught me how I failed and how not to fail. Which has taught me not to give up. Do not dwell on what happened to make you feel so bad. Dwell on what can happen. Dwell on the roses life gives you, the sweetest being your Family.
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Originally posted by F-I-E-R-O: ps, I am a little disapointed that a group of you didn't come get my Fiero and "Pimp My Ride" as a welcome back sort of thing, if some of you where planning to do that I hope I didn't ruin any suprise, in fact, forget I even mentioned this little ps... I'll still be suprised, I promise!!!
Money can not buy the feelings your sense of humor gives me. By the way, pretty darn funny.
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tesmith66 Member
Posts: 7355 From: Jerseyville, IL Registered: Sep 2001
Thanks to all but the guy who was a little put out about not receiving payment for some Lexan that we had discussed sending to me, for all of your support and prayers.
Andrew Just like everyone else, I do not know you personally. But just like everyone else, I am glad to see you on here posting again. I am probably wrong when I make my next couple of statements, but I try to see good in everyone. If you read back through the first few replys after your original post, a couple members were not sure what to make of it. Several of them felt you were merely leaving the forum or getting out of Fiero's. Giving Mizer the benefit of the doubt, he may of been thinking the same thing. I don't know him at all, and even gave him a negative rating after his post. But as I said, I try to give everyone that bebefit. So I removed that rating. I guess that I just don't want you to think that someone on this Forum would intentionally make crude remarks over a situation as serious as yours. I had been through this with my brother. Unfortunately my family was not as fortunate as yours. But because I had been thru it, I knew what I read was final. Others may not have. Just didn't want you to think that any of us were that kind of people. Take care of yourself. You and your family all remain in my prayers.
Jim And Slick....Sorry to here about your grandfather. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your entire family.
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If you read back through the first few replys after your original post, a couple members were not sure what to make of it. Several of them felt you were merely leaving the forum or getting out of Fiero's. Giving Mizer the benefit of the doubt, he may of been thinking the same thing.
That’s what I was thinking when I read the post the first time. It took less than a minute to get your e-mail address and to find your phone number with a google search. Mizer posted your address as well, I think he was concerned at that point and came forward. I never rated him but if I was going to rate him it would not be a negative.
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beachbomb Member
Posts: 1028 From: Screven, GA Registered: May 2000
WOW!!! Just saw this post. Glad to hear your getting help!! Life kicks all of our butts at some time or another!!! Hang in there!! Time changes everything!!!! And something I've learned alot about in the last two years......trust Jesus!!!!! In the last two years I went threw a divorce in which my (now ex) wife was doing things I never thought possible! I found myself suddenly a single father with 3 small children, feeling very over-whelmed and depressed. then, I re-found Jesus, and with His actions, He re-united me and my first wife(got divorced from her in 1991)(which I truley thought this would never ever happen). And my life now is so much more enjoyable and full-filling. I should have never divorced my first wife, but after 13 years, Jesus, and time, everything is falling back into place. You just never know what life has waiting for you around the corner. If you need anything, email, PM me. I'll do what i can...take care man...jim
p.s. Outstanding job by all Forum members, It's nice to know the internet CAN be used for good things, and that there are people like you all out there, I knew Fiero owners where a little different breed, but WOW, i'm impressed!!!
I hope this finds you in good spirits and if there is anything we can do please let us know
