I love how my brating bar has changed by 3 votes for calling someone out on making up a redicules lie.

I think winning an argument on the internet would be about as satisfying as kissing your sister.

How about more pics of bikes? I don't own one (don't have a sister either), but I'd like to see some more bike pics.

quote Originally posted by 84fierotrevor: I love how my brating bar has changed by 3 votes for calling someone out on making up a redicules lie.

That's what you get for being a brat.

quote Originally posted by 2birds: I think winning an argument on the internet would be about as satisfying as kissing your sister. How about more pics of bikes? I don't own one (don't have a sister either), but I'd like to see some more bike pics.

how about a picture of someone on a bike kissing there sister

quote Originally posted by 84fierotrevor: so your considered a brat here if you refuse to belive somthing someone says here that is completley redicules. Sorry I forgot the cultmasters rules. lets all go drink some punch now because it will take us to the spaceship. calikid said so.

I consider you a "brat" if you don't notice your typos and complain about your "brating" bar.

But don't let that stop you from enjoying your martyr complex.

quote Originally posted by MinnGreenGT: OK A-Holes! I think we get the idea... you all don't like Tom, his cars, motorcycles, or anything about him. Now would all just take it elsewhere and leave this (previously) civil motorcycle discussions to those of us who really do give a rat's ass? This was a perfectly normal thread before you came in here shoveling your crap at everyone. This isn't a CaliKid thread, a drag-racing-timeslip thread, or a hp thread. It's a thread about bikes! Got one? Ride one? Swell... if not? Leave it be.

Thanks for telling me what I think, I appreciate it. As a matter of fact, I DO like Toms car and his bike, but I still call BS on his numbers. And I DO give a rats backside about this thread. In case you missed it, Tom came in here throwing around questionable numbers and started all this crap. No one else made this a drag-racing-timeslip-hp thread, he did. Hes as much to blame as anyone who responded to him. Nice of him to stir up a ****storm and leave, just like the V8 threads. I've got a bike, I ride it, so by your proclamation, I don't need to leave it be. Good to know.

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300hp 3.4 OHV running 11's N/A
'88 Suzuki Katana 600 running 8.89 1/4
I'll post my mods, slips, and graphs when the V8 guys do.
Bench Racing Rules!!!

quote Originally posted by Formula88: I consider you a "brat" if you don't notice your typos and complain about your "brating" bar. But don't let that stop you from enjoying your martyr complex.

I see O wise one. soon I shall follow in your footsteps. for perfect spelling equals greatness.

my spelling is worse then **** itself, but it doesnt change the fact calikid is Bullshitting

I wasn't bitching about my ratings bar, I was simply pointing it out. If I worried about my bar I would have never called calikids BS. go look in all his fiero threads, you call him out, you get **** on by alot of other people here.

Anyone remember the GT-X guy, he photoshoped a timeslip and was called out by numoures people multiple times and mathmaticly proven wrong. calikid can't even photoshop a timeslip but no questinons are asked on his redicules claims. .........interesting........

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Nice looking Ducati, Trev...

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quote Originally posted by 2birds: Nice looking Ducati, Trev...

Ahahahaha nice, I got owend on that one.

quote Originally posted by MinnGreenGT: OK A-Holes! I think we get the idea... you all don't like Tom, his cars, motorcycles, or anything about him. Now would all just take it elsewhere and leave this (previously) civil motorcycle discussions to those of us who really do give a rat's ass? This was a perfectly normal thread before you came in here shoveling your crap at everyone. This isn't a CaliKid thread, a drag-racing-timeslip thread, or a hp thread. It's a thread about bikes! Got one? Ride one? Swell... if not? Leave it be.

I was enjoying this thread also. Something else alot of have in common. More to talk about when we meet. Almost one whole page of worthless 'calling out'. As everyone knows, this bickering leads nowhere. Why start it?


BTW, Ride to Work Day, July 19, 2006. Pass the word.

quote Originally posted by Gokart Mozart: Why start it?

Ask Calikid.

Now formula88 has to go and start calling people names. So does Minngreen with his A holes comment. But I bet if I talked like that to you guys, I would be instantly banned. But I guess its ok for you to talk like that since you guys are way in the green and talk however you please. Also calling someone an Ahole is circumventing the webmasters rules as far as swearing goes and if I am not mistaken that is a bannable offense. Remember that "I agree" thing you clicked before signing up here? So I am first in line for wanting minngreen banned. His name calling and swear word circumventing can not be tolerated here. I however bet I will be the first to be banned here because I am the supposed Ahole and the brat. Bunch of hypocrites here.

I believe his bike could pull that time off. I read in one of the motorcycle mags I subscribe too a 600cc SS with the only mod done was it being lowered run in the 9's. Completely stock SS bikes now all run low 10's-high 9's.

quote Originally posted by iced_theater: I believe his bike could pull that time off. I read in one of the motorcycle mags I subscribe too a 600cc SS with the only mod done was it being lowered run in the 9's. Completely stock SS bikes now all run low 10's-high 9's.

His is 21 years old, not brand new.

quote Originally posted by Unsafe At Any Speed: Ask Calikid.

You can read his post and laugh at his numbers and not post anything.

If you get in/on a vehicle that can go that fast, it doesn't matter if you've gone that fast "This beast (has run a 9.65 @ 136mph 1/4 mile)...", chances are it has more pucker-feeling than most of the other vehicles you've been in. You can just feel the difference, even if you don't crank the throttle. "...alot more fun to drive that my yellow GT !!! " That's what riding is all about!!

When I checked the status of my "recent post threads".. I was kinda excited about the fact that this thread had some more posts on it..

I was thinking "Cool.. some other people are posting about what they are riding this spring / summer"..

Instead, much to my dismay, a few asshats with sand in their clits are once again taking what could have been a nice and enjoyable thread and turning it into a whinning ***** fest.

So, in closing.. I simply want to say "**** you very much and have a nice day"..

Before you post again, you might want to try out some

quote Originally posted by 84fierotrevor: I see O wise one. soon I shall follow in your footsteps. for perfect spelling equals greatness.

Oh get over yourself. I was poking fun in an apparently failed attempt to lighten up this discussion some.

quote Originally posted by Chris Dusome: <-- My trophy from minngreen. Thanks

LOL... love it! but you need to drop the extra </quote> tag...

quote Originally posted by 84fierotrevor: ...I for one am honestly interested in learning more about bikes. I would like to see people post REAL info about what there bike runs, laptimes, quater mile times, its interesting to me. what doesnt intrest me is someone coming on and posting a bunch of bs to look cool. i have genuiune intrest in bikes. i basicly eat sleep and ride when i can...

Excellent. Now go over and check out some real sportbike websites then! When I want to really "talk bikes" - I don't come to the Fiero forum... I have a ton of sweet sites bookmarked for that:
http://speedzilla.com/forums/
http://www.sportbikes.ws/
http://www.mnsportbikeriders.com/ (our local group)
http://www.katriders.com/forums/ (for Katana riders)
http://www.squidbusters.com/ (for those who aren't a fan of hooligans)
http://www.sport-touring.net (for those who like the sport & the long rides)
http://www.gpz900r.co.uk/ (for finding out more about CaliKid's & others Old Kawis)

quote Originally posted by Fastback 86: Thanks for telling me what I think, I appreciate it. As a matter of fact, I DO like Toms car and his bike, but I still call BS on his numbers. And I DO give a rats backside about this thread. In case you missed it, Tom came in here throwing around questionable numbers and started all this crap. No one else made this a drag-racing-timeslip-hp thread, he did. Hes as much to blame as anyone who responded to him. Nice of him to stir up a ****storm and leave, just like the V8 threads. I've got a bike, I ride it, so by your proclamation, I don't need to leave it be. Good to know.

My apologies to you... my statement was not directed at you. I never said you can't "call someone out" - but can those that do actually try to act like adults instead of 2nd graders? Not likely.

Call out. Let it be seen/heard/written. Then let it go... do they really expect to get a "resolution" of some sort? Come on... this is still the internet.

quote Originally posted by Chris Dusome: Now formula88 has to go and start calling people names. So does Minngreen with his A holes comment. But I bet if I talked like that to you guys, I would be instantly banned. But I guess its ok for you to talk like that since you guys are way in the green and talk however you please. Also calling someone an Ahole is circumventing the webmasters rules as far as swearing goes and if I am not mistaken that is a bannable offense. Remember that "I agree" thing you clicked before signing up here? So I am first in line for wanting minngreen banned. His name calling and swear word circumventing can not be tolerated here. I however bet I will be the first to be banned here because I am the supposed Ahole and the brat. Bunch of hypocrites here.

Hmmm... where to start? A-Hole... means, well... "A-Hole" I've been known to say that anyway... I don't feel the need to say the entire phrase, people clearly know what it means. Mr. Forum Cop... I guess the line to ban me starts right behind you then? Looks like a short line...

btw - I don't go around acting like a jerk all the time, but clearly some people need to be reminded that their attitude isn't appreciated by all of us. I've been part of the Fiero community for more than 12 or 13 years, so these people are by and large my friends... that's how I've earned my "Green Bar" - I don't go around throwing out BS. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. Simple.

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quote Originally posted by Formula88: Oh get over yourself. I was poking fun in an apparently failed attempt to lighten up this discussion some.

Relax I'm just mesing around, didn't you see my one time sig?
I still don't know why people are coming in here calling me a Ahole and yelling and bitching at me tho? All I did was state that calikids bike copuldn't run that time, I didn't screw over the thread, everyone started jumping on me for calling him out, and now the thread has been hijacked, if no one came in bitching at me the bs woulda been called out and the thread would continue.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: Oh get over yourself. I was poking fun in an apparently failed attempt to lighten up this discussion some.

Relax I'm just mesing around, didn't you see my one time sig?
I still don't know why people are coming in here calling me a Ahole and yelling and bitching at me tho? All I did was state that calikids bike copuldn't run that time, I didn't screw over the thread, everyone started jumping on me for calling him out, and now the thread has been hijacked, if no one came in bitching at me the bs woulda been called out and the thread would continue.

quote Originally posted by 84fierotrevor: I still don't know why people are coming in here calling me a Ahole and yelling and bitching at me tho? All I did was state that calikids bike copuldn't run that time, I didn't screw over the thread, everyone started jumping on me for calling him out, and now the thread has been hijacked, if no one came in bitching at me the bs woulda been called out and the thread would continue.

I disagree... it wouldn't have just continued. You & Chris felt it necessary to keep on the topic of CaliKid after the intial couple of posts. And I referred to anyone who feels the need to follow Tom into threads only to ruin them with their attitudes... an A-Hole. It would've been fine if you hadn't kept trying to provoke the conversation.

quote Originally posted by 84fierotrevor: I see alota **** . But the one thing I don't ever see. is proof. straight up. if all this car/bike stuff is true. why not prove it and shut everyone that disagree's up. if someone called me on some **** that i new was true. the first thing I would do is get the proof I need, the second would be I would shove it in there face. to shut them up. ... same with the bike., I am sure there is people out there that want to modfiy there 900 just as the guy you bought yours from modifed that one. dyno and run it and post the info on a kawi900 forum. there is plenty of people that could benifit from that info on what mods you have and what results it produced.

it's just more of the same...

quote Originally posted by MinnGreenGT: And I referred to anyone who feels the need to follow Tom into threads only to ruin them with their attitudes... an A-Hole.

At the same time, though, Calikid knows when he posts his BS numbers it is going to cause trouble. Yet people continue to defend Calikid when the thread gets jacked and jump on the people who call him on his BS claims instead.

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quote Originally posted by Unsafe At Any Speed: At the same time, though, Calikid knows when he posts his BS numbers it is going to cause trouble. Yet people continue to defend Calikid when the thread gets jacked and jump on the people who call him on his BS claims instead.

I have never defended Tom's statements, numbers, or anything... he's on his own ('cause it doesn't matter to me). I'd just rather not see every thread he posts in turn into threadjack'd crap like this. I'm just tired of it.

quote Originally posted by MinnGreenGT: I have never defended Tom's statements, numbers, or anything... he's on his own ('cause it doesn't matter to me). I'd just rather not see every thread he posts in turn into threadjack'd crap like this. I'm just tired of it.

Well it does matter to me and other people here. If it doesnt' matter to you, then why even state your opinion at all? why come in acting holier then thou? You are calling me the forum police but look in the mirror

And the line is actually getting pretty long behind me. I have been in contact with people through pms and there is about to be a huge turn around in your bar in the upcoming weeks. Say bye bye.

quote Originally posted by Chris Dusome: Well it does matter to me and other people here. If it doesnt' matter to you, then why even state your opinion at all? why come in acting holier then thou? You are calling me the forum police but look in the mirror

Fine. Everything Tom says and/or does is of great concern to you and all the other CaliKid stalkers. Go ahead and have a heyday... I'll leave you and your "partners" to your anarchy.

quote And the line is actually getting pretty long behind me. I have been in contact with people through pms and there is about to be a huge turn around in your bar in the upcoming weeks. Say bye bye.

OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO?! NEWB IS THREATENING ME!?

Yawn ...that's a first. An actual "threat" to my "ratings bar"
Ooooo.... go ahead and rally the troops

quote Originally posted by MinnGreenGT: I'd just rather not see every thread he posts in turn into threadjack'd crap like this. I'm just tired of it.

Just an observation, but CaliKid posted in this thread a few times before the "beast" post. No one called him out or said anything about numbers until HE posted them. It was a nice peaceful thread up to that point.

Is it the end of the world if someone posts bogus numbers? No, but it is irritating, and just as you're tired of the thread hijacks, others are tired of seeing unsubstantiated claims.

quote Originally posted by GT86: Just an observation, but CaliKid posted in this thread a few times before the "beast" post. No one called him out or said anything about numbers until HE posted them. It was a nice peaceful thread up to that point. Is it the end of the world if someone posts bogus numbers? No, but it is irritating, and just as you're tired of the thread hijacks, others are tired of seeing unsubstantiated claims.

I agree. I can see your point, And I appreciate your concise & mature approach to the topic!

Sorry Minn, I thought you were talking to me. No hard feelings.

quote Originally posted by MinnGreenGT: I agree. I can see your point, And I appreciate your concise & mature approach to the topic!

Unlike your so called mature approach of calling people A holes. Yea ok. Get off your high horse.

" Substantiated " Now there's an interesting word. Do you really believe all the Timeslips / Dyno Charts that are posted on the internet, really belong to the referenced car/engine posted??? Neither of those documents are tied directly to the car/engine, ie., no vehicle description, VIN, or engine number shows on these items. Want an example? Here's the Dyno Sheet on my car:



Now is that "substantiated" ? Do you believe it ? Who's to say if I even own the vehicles I've posted, I haven't posted pictures of the Titles ????

My point is, that you either believe what someone posts, or you don't, it's as clear as that. To keep dragging this crap on and on, doesn't prove a darn thing. Even if I did post actual data that showed me not to be a BS'er, there would still be people who'd posted I'm a BS'er. Bottom line it that some people are just to darn hard to please, and it's not worth the trouble.

Thats not yours and we all know it. You already posted yours and it had lingenfelter on the dyno chart. THis is your so called chart here.
Remember? So taking your words, we can all agree then that the graph you claim is yours really isn't and is faked.

Lying once again are we? Besides that 441 whp is of my graph of my geo metro.

Go get it dynoed and take an impartial observer or a video of it and have them post, or post up the video. Its that simple. I

am sure if you started a thread, saying you were going to such and such dyno on such and such day and time, I am sure many people in the detroit area would show up to confirm that you do indeed make 400 hp like you claim. I mean if I lived closer I definately would take a personal day off to go watch this. Who wouldn't?

Then post the name of the shop and the number, so that people can call it and confirm it with the dyno operator if they so choose. See your credibility is so ruined at this point, you have to go to these great lenghts just to get people to believe you. Pretty sad if you ask me. I don't think anyone else would need to do this. Do you?

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My Metro can beat Calikids V8 Fiero.
I posted what I know to be true, if you don't want to believe it, that's your choice.
<-- My trophy from minngreen. Thanks

Way to prove Tom's point.

quote Originally posted by MinnGreenGT: I have never defended Tom's statements, numbers, or anything... he's on his own ('cause it doesn't matter to me). I'd just rather not see every thread he posts in turn into threadjack'd crap like this. I'm just tired of it.

And others are tired of seeing BS posts and unbelivable claims with no proof.

quote Originally posted by Unsafe At Any Speed: At the same time, though, Calikid knows when he posts his BS numbers it is going to cause trouble.

No sir, I think he believes it...


My mustang runs 11's!

quote Originally posted by Formula88: Way to prove Tom's point.

I was being sarcastic about the dyno graphs. Jeez dude wake up and smell what the rock is cooking.

quote Originally posted by JohnnyK: No sir, I think he believes it... My mustang runs 11's!

Oh yeah. What was I thinking?

Well looking up some information on calikids bike, stock that bike puts out about 115 HP and while I don't know for sure, looks as though that could be worth around an 11.2-11.3 in the 1/4 mile. I don't know how much a cam, exhaust, ignition, among whatever else was done to his bike would add in HP. But say it's 145 HP now, that would probably be good for high 9's low 10's. Now if it was being drag raced it might of been lowered, running slicks and having a excellent rider I can believe 9.6's are possible.

Now Chris Dusome, it's pretty stupid trying to threaten someone that's been here for years while you've been here for a few months. Also, it doesn't work in getting someone banned. Especially when he has as many friends here as he does.