quote Originally posted by Phranc: I'd like to know what the dems. plan for America is? No one else seems to know except a guy who wont tell me. (not just talking points but real actionable substance)

guy?
wow... you are slow, aren't you?
no wonder you're having such a problem with this.

quote Originally posted by Euterpe: guy? wow... you are slow, aren't you? no wonder you're having such a problem with this.

Your foul language, tripe name calling and cocksure assertions at what I was threw me for a loop. Not very lady like.

quote Originally posted by Phranc: Your foul language, tripe name calling and cocksure assertions at what I was threw me for a loop. Not very lady like.

well, clutch my pearls!

i love the explicit gender-policing: "cocksure... ladylike."

as for your redundant whimpering about my supposed misreading of you as a rightwinger, i have already freely admitted that i stood corrected... and entirely on your word.

i have also corrected you on your empty straw man tactic, with no reciprocal acknowledgment.

i will let you fill in the gender-referential epithet of your own, that you think might supply my best retort.

Witchita , Is in the bottle...of ...........noone..................Achelalc;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Thought.

quote Originally posted by Wichita: Republicans will at least admit or point out bad Republicans or ones that shouldn't be in office. You sleep with dogs, you get fleas!

OK, I wasn't going to say anything, but what was the Republican leaderships response when Foley's inappropriate actions were reported to them. Absolutely nothing. Where are the fleas now?

So, nothing the Democrats do will please Republicans, and nothing Republicans do will please Democrats.
I'm glad we finally figured that out.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: So, nothing the Democrats do will please Republicans, and nothing Republicans do will please Democrats. I'm glad we finally figured that out.

Yup. I just read two pages of this, and absolutely NOTHING was accomplished except that Euterpe and Phranc get along worse than they did when we started. And still no statement about the Demos plan.

At least I had something to stare at while consuming my morning coffee.

quote Originally posted by fierobear: Yup. I just read two pages of this, and absolutely NOTHING was accomplished except that Euterpe and Phranc get along worse than they did when we started. And still no statement about the Demos plan. At least I had something to stare at while consuming my morning coffee.

i do hope you realize, fierobear - and actually, i expect that you do - that it proceeded pretty much exactly as i intended.

let's recap:

a bunch of people pull snark on pelosi.
i pull snark back.
phranc complains that my snark unfairly characterized him, and that he has real reasons for disliking pelosi.
tough, i respond... snark for snark. but if you have something to actually criticize, be my guest.
at which point phranc changes the subject to "the democratic agenda", and demands that i tell him what it is.
game on.

i hope you enjoyed your coffee i finished my chai about an hour ago, and am placidly working away at a client project that a coworker screwed up, and that has to be ready for my boss' approval by COB tomorrow. but it's actually an audio editing project, so it's sort of cozy... like old times.

cheers

quote Originally posted by Scott-Wa: Lies? Tell us about the lies, use the same criteria you use for defending Bush. No accusations allowed unless charged, convicted and made it through all appeals without wiggling out. Nice how the rules are different if your a republican apologist.

What lies did Bush tell? I've still never got an answer to this question. Oh I keep hearing about Iraq, which has been disproved by about every government on Earth, so if you want to hang onto that fantasy at leat give us all some forewarning so we can simply scoff at the lunacy and move on. But when you make a blanket statement about "lies", you need to do the logical and respectful courtesy to at least clarify what exactly you are blabbering about.

I mean Hell Scott if you ever want to be taken serious don't you think you should make an effort to interject an occassional fact in between the rhetorical blatherings of the socialist mantra?

At least then we have something to discuss besides the fact that you're late, you're late, for a very important date.

PS, Merry Chistmas...or eh, Happy Holidays, or eh, enjoy your meaningless day off or whatever...

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quote Originally posted by Euterpe: i do hope you realize, fierobear - and actually, i expect that you do - that it proceeded pretty much exactly as i intended. sure it did let's recap: a bunch of people pull snark on pelosi. i pull snark back. phranc complains that my snark unfairly characterized him, and that he has real reasons for disliking pelosi. tough, i respond... snark for snark. but if you have something to actually criticize, be my guest.{b] My gripe is the lady has no real plan. Unless you can show me what it is. Can you?[/b] at which point phranc changes the subject to "the democratic agenda", and demands that i tell him what it is. game on.For being so pleased with this woman becoming the leader and not having a plan it strikes me as odd. What kind of leader doesn't have a plan? A bad one. Thats why I dislike her. But something like that must be to slow for a person like you to understand. cheers

You be happy you have a worthless leader with no plan. Unless you know what the plan is and would like to share it.

i've never seen someone attempt to directly edit the quote before. looks kind of sloppy, actually.

anyway... good afternoon! hope you're having a pleasant day.

quote sure it did

yep. annoying, being played, isn't it? gee... here you and the rest of the folks were, happily exchanging zingers about pelosi, and when i break your stride you try to pretend that there's a real political debate going on, and hold me to it.

quote Can you?

am too. am not. am too. am not. am too...

quote For being so pleased with this woman becoming the leader and not having a plan it strikes me as odd.

i've already told you why i'm pleased. here, i'll repeat it for you: first, i'm a partisan. warts and all, she's the speaker of the house, from my party. second, her speakership apparently bugs you. that makes me smile.

whether or not she "has a plan" according to whatever criteria you care to supply for your own benefit, isn't really material to me as far as this discussion goes. that bug is up your ass, not mine, and it's not my job to provide you with reasons to trust her, or her party. as i said... i really don't care. if you care as much as you pretend to - if, in fact, you're not just badgering an empty point for the heck of it - then go find out for yourself.

i will tell you this much, though... there is a specific reason i've taken this approach, other than my simple pleasure in stringing you along. during the entire republican congress, i've heard the same narrative over and over again: "the democrats have no ideas, no will, and no principles." it's party-line bullshit that has morphed into "conventional wisdom" and i'm way past sick of it, and of the persistent "demand" that everyone on this side of the aisle provide sufficient evidence to the contrary. you want to believe it? fine. we'll see what we'll see, and you may choose to be surprised, cynical, outraged, or blase about the outcome.

but your problem with it... is not mine.

quote Originally posted by Toddster: What lies did Bush tell? I've still never got an answer to this question. Oh I keep hearing about Iraq, which has been disproved by about every government on Earth, so if you want to hang onto that fantasy at leat give us all some forewarning so we can simply scoff at the lunacy and move on. But when you make a blanket statement about "lies", you need to do the logical and respectful courtesy to at least clarify what exactly you are blabbering about. I mean Hell Scott if you ever want to be taken serious don't you think you should make an effort to interject an occassional fact in between the rhetorical blatherings of the socialist mantra? At least then we have something to discuss besides the fact that you're late, you're late, for a very important date. PS, Merry Chistmas...or eh, Happy Holidays, or eh, enjoy your meaningless day off or whatever...

Interesting how out of two pages of discussion that one reference to Bush was all you could find to reply to.

How about rewriting that about who I was replying to since the 'lies' I referred to have been discussed ad nauseum and it was EXACTLY what I was complaining about. You and yours do it non stop... he claims the entire interview was filled with lies, yet didn't pick a single one out as an example. Not even the partial quote I read elsewhere that was used to turn one sentence into something else by leaving off the end.

Glad I could fulfill your need to attack someone who's not a republican rather than dealing with the thread. You left out your references to MoveOn and Michael Moore... and no eye rolls, your improving.

You like being rude? Last line sure nails that idea home.

Merry Christmas.

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quote Originally posted by Wichita: Republicans will at least admit or point out bad Republicans or ones that shouldn't be in office. Democrats on the other hand believe there isn't a single bad member of the Democrat Party. They will even stand behind Cynitha McKinney. You sleep with dogs, you get fleas!

The democratic party supported another candidate in the November primary elections, and McKinney lost. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_McKinney

Lets recap just a few of the bad republicans who stayed in office until the VOTERS pointed them out (except for DeLay):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZlBeCASuQ0

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"What I'm tryin' to say Is, don't they pray
To the same God That we do?
Tell me How does God choose?
Whose prayers does he refuse?"
-Tom Waits

That's highly inaccurate, Neptune. All your video shows is which Rep. incumbents lost their seats. That has nothing to do with them being "bad". Oh, that's right, according to YOU, any Republican is "bad", corrupt, and without merit.

Which one of those candidates were found with thousands of $$ hidden in their freezers (Like a certain Dem that WAS re-elected)? Which one of those that are listed drove their cars under the influence and had a wreck (but that's OK, he's a Kennedy and is going into rehab)?

You're fighting a battle you can't win when it comes to which party excuses inexcusable behavior. It happens on both sides, but the Republican party has a long history of dealing harshly with it either through the voters or through the party itself, while the Democrats have an even longer history of apologizing and excusing nearly ANY bad behavior, from perjury to blow jobs in the oval office to corruption to substance abuse.

John Stricker

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: The democratic party supported another candidate in the November primary elections, and McKinney lost. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_McKinney Lets recap just a few of the bad republicans who stayed in office until the VOTERS pointed them out (except for DeLay): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZlBeCASuQ0

quote Originally posted by jstricker: Which one of those that are listed drove their cars under the influence and had a wreck... blow jobs in the oval office...

i'm reminded of those arguments one has with one's mother, where one's faults and errors from one, two, or even three decades before are always presented as sins to be newly repented.

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How much does Iraq cost us every 4 days?

quote Originally posted by jstricker: Which one of those candidates were found with thousands of $$ hidden in their freezers (Like a certain Dem that WAS re-elected)? John Stricker

Hey now John, nothing wrong with cold hard cash is there?

Maybe they should hide the country's credit card in there....

quote Originally posted by Euterpe: gee, cliff. what a brilliant political observation.

. Did I strike a nerve ? So sad that you wear "push this button" on your sleeve.

quote Originally posted by Euterpe: i'm reminded of those arguments one has with one's mother, where one's faults and errors from one, two, or even three decades before are always presented as sins to be newly repented.

quote Originally posted by Euterpe: ...... i don't actually give a **** . she's the new speaker, and as a registered democrat i'm quite pleased......

Sounds like those faults and errors were never repented.

quote Originally posted by Euterpe: .......the majority apparatus and their shills made it clear for years that they believed that the opposition had no real right to exist, much less participate.

gee, Euterpe. what a brilliant political observation. Umm.....were you talking about the Democratic or Republican shills ? .

quote Originally posted by Euterpe: i don't expect the democratic congress to roll over and be conciliatory in the face of such a blunt ideology, but i'm pretty certain that they actually understand something called "representation."

quote Originally posted by cliffw: She is planning a four day "swearing in" ceremony.

quote Originally posted by cliffw: It's all about having power.

And let's NEVER, EVER forget that a blow job between consenting adults is MUCH worse than an illegal invasion of a soverign nation, which, by the way, posed no threat to the USA, an invasion resulting in the deaths of THOUSANDS of people. So far.
It's also immeasurably worse than a sitting president attempting, with some success thanks to a rubber stamp, one party legislative branch, to wipe his a$$ with the constitution.
It trumps a government that raises pork barrel spending to new, heretofore unimagined heights.
Its way worse than a partially successful attempt to turn the USA into the bi#ch of the large corporations, just as president Eisenhower warned.
Its much worse than rigging the federal government to exclude any ideas other than the strict party line (the K street project. Look it up.)
Its much worse than legalizing sweat shops and slavery in the US protectorates of the Marshall Islands.
Yeah, a blow job between two adults in private is without a doubt the single most heinous act ever performed in the history of the USA.
Unless, perhaps, it (allegedly) involves a republican with a consenting young boy.Thats a minor faux pas.
Shall I mention tainted elections? The Diebold/republican party connection?
Yeah, I DO feel as if our own Berlin wall has been torn down, now that the government isn't ENTIRELY owned by evil, greedy, corrupt people.
Are all democrats perfect?
Don't be absurd.
But I am very pleased to feel a (somewhat small) breath of fresh air.
Maybe I'm clutching at straws.
Maybe we have a chance now.
May God bless the USA.



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"What I'm tryin' to say Is, don't they pray
To the same God That we do?
Tell me How does God choose?
Whose prayers does he refuse?"
-Tom Waits

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quote Originally posted by cliffw: yadda yadda

you're a little late to the party, babe.

and yes... i was referring to republican shills. eliminationist rhetoric is very much their specialty.

#1, I wasn't talking to you
#2, You apparently approve of painting with a broad brush and agree that all Republicans are corrupt?

I'm a pretty conservative Republican and even *I* don't think that of all Democrats.

John Stricker

quote Originally posted by Euterpe: i'm reminded of those arguments one has with one's mother, where one's faults and errors from one, two, or even three decades before are always presented as sins to be newly repented.

quote Originally posted by Euterpe: you're a little late to the party, babe.

Then...there still is a party.

quote Originally posted by Phranc: You be happy you have a worthless leader with no plan.

There is a plan Phranc. Pelosi plans on controlling the CNN cameras which cover House proceedings. She wants to be able to edit visitor reactions to House actions.

quote Originally posted by jstricker: #1, I wasn't talking to you #2, You apparently approve of painting with a broad brush and agree that all Republicans are corrupt? I'm a pretty conservative Republican and even *I* don't think that of all Democrats. John Stricker

#1: sorreeeeee. it's a thread. i interjected.
#1b: it wasn't even intended to be insulting.
#1c: but the reflection is for real. the litany really does remind me of that.

#2: where the heck do you get that? to paraphrase you, i'm a pretty liberal Democrat, and even i don't think that of all Republicans.
#2b: but since when do people make such fine distinctions around here, when dog-piling on "the left"?

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: And let's NEVER, EVER forget that a blow job between consenting adults is MUCH worse than an illegal invasion of a soverign nation, which, by the way, posed no threat to the USA, an invasion resulting in the deaths of THOUSANDS of people. So far.

You're a broken record and that has nothing to do with your original statement I took issue with, which was (lest you forget and get sidetracked)

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: The democratic party supported another candidate in the November primary elections, and McKinney lost. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_McKinney Lets recap just a few of the bad republicans who stayed in office until the VOTERS pointed them out (except for DeLay): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZlBeCASuQ0

Implying that the Republicans in your little video that were voted OUT of office were all corrupt and under investigation. Again, that's not true and not fair to make that implication.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: It's also immeasurably worse than a sitting president attempting, with some success thanks to a rubber stamp, one party legislative branch, to wipe his a$$ with the constitution.

That's a matter of your opinion, unsupported by facts, and not germain to your implication that all the Republicans that were defeated were corrupt and/or under investigation for illegal activities.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: It trumps a government that raises pork barrel spending to new, heretofore unimagined heights.

Again, not relevant to the matter of your post which I took issue with.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Its way worse than a partially successful attempt to turn the USA into the bi#ch of the large corporations, just as president Eisenhower warned.

And you have evidence that the Republicans voted out of office were guilty of illegal bribe taking? Or even that the majority were under investigation for the same? Bring it on, I'd like to see it.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Its much worse than rigging the federal government to exclude any ideas other than the strict party line (the K street project. Look it up.)

Right, and all of those voted out were responsible for that ALLEGED impropriety? Not.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Its much worse than legalizing sweat shops and slavery in the US protectorates of the Marshall Islands.

What a reach, but again, having nothing to do with the discussion.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Yeah, a blow job between two adults in private is without a doubt the single most heinous act ever performed in the history of the USA. Unless, perhaps, it (allegedly) involves a republican with a consenting young boy.Thats a minor faux pas.

IF you are employed by any medium to large size corporation, and you have an intern of the opposite (or same) sex subordinate to you, and it's discovered that you did the EXACT SAME THING that Clinton did IN YOU PLACE OF WORK, YOU WOULD BE FIRED

Plain and simple. It's a violation of so many workplace rules it's laughable. Add to that you the PERJUR yourself, you'd probably be in jail, or serving a suspended sentence.

And you're trying to equate THAT with some dirty emails? While I think the actions of Mark Foley reprehensible (even if not illegal) and I was one of the first here to call for him to get his sorry butt out of congress, you, OTOH, continue to defend what amounts to the same and worse actions by former President Clinton. Keep in mind, too, that Foley WAS Forced to resign in disgrace and shame, and no Republicans I know of wanted him back or defended him. THAT, my friend, is the point.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Shall I mention tainted elections? The Diebold/republican party connection?

You can mention it if you have links to the members that were voted out since you're implying they are guilty of something, otherwise your mention of it is not germain to the discussion.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Yeah, I DO feel as if our own Berlin wall has been torn down, now that the government isn't ENTIRELY owned by evil, greedy, corrupt people. Are all democrats perfect? Don't be absurd. But I am very pleased to feel a (somewhat small) breath of fresh air.

Don't breathe too close around Teddy or Patrick Kennedy or you won't pass a breathalizer test if you get stopped on the way home.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Maybe I'm clutching at straws. Maybe we have a chance now. May God bless the USA.

I hope you're right. We'll have to see how hard you defend the inevitable discretions of the Democratic party members now that they are taking power. Only then will *WE* have a chance of regaining control of our government.

John Stricker


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quote Originally posted by cliffw: Then...there still is a party.

yes, but the punch is running low. make a run for some sangria, will you?

Then I'll try to explain it to you like us dumb country boys see it.

I was responding to ONE post from Neptune where he implied by posting a link to the video that ALL of the Republicans voted out of office were corrupt and/or under investigation. That's not true, unfair, and insulting.

I don't know where you came up with the "decades" comment as I was referrring to PATRICK Kennedy and his DWI of either alcohol, medications, or both where he was not charged, or even tested for such by the Capitol Police. Another Kennedy that can't control his impulses. But that's OK because he's in Rehab. Would you be as generous to a Republican? Yeah you wouldn't.

John Stricker

quote Originally posted by Euterpe: #1: sorreeeeee. it's a thread. i interjected. #1b: it wasn't even intended to be insulting. #1c: but the reflection is for real. the litany really does remind me of that. #2: where the heck do you get that? to paraphrase you, i'm a pretty liberal Democrat, and even i don't think that of all Republicans. #2b: but since when do people make such fine distinctions around here, when dog-piling on "the left"?

quote Originally posted by jstricker: >>Its much worse than legalizing sweat shops and slavery in the US protectorates of the Marshall Islands. What a reach, but again, having nothing to do with the discussion.

hard to know what the current discussion is sometimes... but this tangent brings up something that, more than any other item in the preceding tit-for-tat, really bothered me in the past year, based on what i'd been given to understand about it. i would honestly appreciate any contradicting information, because, if true, this piece of the abramoff mess is particularly sordid.

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quote Originally posted by Euterpe: ....yes, but the punch is running low. make a run for some sangria, will you?

I just got here, I drink Schlitz, and I have my own.
You wanna share?

quote Originally posted by cliffw: I just got here, I drink Schlitz, and I have my own. You wanna share?

i know this is going to sound completely stereotypical of me... but i'd really prefer a nice microbrewery stout.

quote Originally posted by Euterpe: and i had forgotten about patrick kennedy. that was indeed a pathetic performance. would i be as generous to a republican? i don't know... provide a specific example and i'll let you know.

Rush Limbaugh.

Kennedy said he was addicted to pain killers and that was part of his driving problems.

Limbaugh also claimed he was addicted, but was never involved in a traffic accident while under the influence.

Was there a DA that ordered Kennedy's medical records pulled to see if HE was doctor shopping?
Why wasn't there ever an investigation of WHY he was taking prescription pain killers?
More than one witness placed him at a bar before the accident, why wasn't that investigated and Kennedy tested for substances in his system?

Most IMPORTANTLY...................where was the outrage from the DEMOCRATS that were so incensed with the Limbaugh matter?

I await your thoughtful consideration.

Oh, and BTW, the "country" reference was to make you comfortable, since you seem to think it's OK to refer to your verbal opponents as "babe". How about you cut out the cutesy familiarities if you want me to cut out the "shtick". If you want to have a serious discussion, let's. If you want to play, I can play nice or mean. You get to pick.

John Stricker

quote Originally posted by Euterpe: i'm reminded of those arguments one has with one's mother, where one's faults and errors from one, two, or even three decades before are always presented as sins to be newly repented.

You're thinking about the wrong Kennedy. He's not referring to Ted, from ancient history. He's talking about the OTHER Kennedy, from LAST year. On second thought, maybe he was pointing to BOTH of them.

quote Originally posted by jstricker: Rush Limbaugh. Kennedy said he was addicted to pain killers and that was part of his driving problems. Limbaugh also claimed he was addicted, but was never involved in a traffic accident while under the influence. Was there a DA that ordered Kennedy's medical records pulled to see if HE was doctor shopping? Why wasn't there ever an investigation of WHY he was taking prescription pain killers? More than one witness placed him at a bar before the accident, why wasn't that investigated and Kennedy tested for substances in his system? Most IMPORTANTLY...................where was the outrage from the DEMOCRATS that were so incensed with the Limbaugh matter? I await your thoughtful consideration. Oh, and BTW, the "country" reference was to make you comfortable, since you seem to think it's OK to refer to your verbal opponents as "babe". How about you cut out the cutesy familiarities if you want me to cut out the "shtick". If you want to have a serious discussion, let's. If you want to play, I can play nice or mean. You get to pick. John Stricker

I want to know why no blood alcohol test was done. I guess that's because I'm an evil Republican, but I would think that would be S.O.P.

quote Originally posted by jstricker: Rush Limbaugh. Oh, and BTW, the "country" reference was to make you comfortable, since you seem to think it's OK to refer to your verbal opponents as "babe". How about you cut out the cutesy familiarities if you want me to cut out the "shtick". If you want to have a serious discussion, let's. If you want to play, I can play nice or mean. You get to pick. John Stricker

oh that one's easy. i think rush is a pig, pure and simple. but his drug problem is a non-issue to me. it was minor to begin with, representative of a similar problem many people have, and a good example of the whole "war on drugs" hysteria. he seems to have kicked. good deal. now i can go back to loathing him without reservation.

and as for the latter part... i know you're observant enough to have picked up on the fact that i adjust my tone depending on who i'm talking to, and what i'm trying to communicate. the "babe" was for cliffw, who i don't take as seriously. with you, i've been pretty careful, and have (for the most part, i believe) refrained from cutesy familiarities.

until now, toots.

And that kind of demeaning attitude towards people that have differing opinions is why I find it very hard to take many Liberals seriously.

Guess what, toots, you're not always right.

John Stricker

quote Originally posted by Euterpe: oh that one's easy. i think rush is a pig, pure and simple. but his drug problem is a non-issue to me. it was minor to begin with, representative of a similar problem many people have, and a good example of the whole "war on drugs" hysteria. he seems to have kicked. good deal. now i can go back to loathing him without reservation. and as for the latter part... i know you're observant enough to have picked up on the fact that i adjust my tone depending on who i'm talking to, and what i'm trying to communicate. the "babe" was for cliffw, who i don't take as seriously. with you, i've been pretty careful, and have (for the most part, i believe) refrained from cutesy familiarities. until now, toots.

quote Originally posted by Euterpe: and i had forgotten about patrick kennedy. that was indeed a pathetic performance. would i be as generous to a republican? i don't know... provide a specific example and i'll let you know.

I've got an easy example for you.
Trent Lott was being nice to an old Strom Thurmon on his 90somthing birthday and said something about how nice it might have been if he'd been elected president in 1948. The left went bugsnit over it, (at the time Strom was still in support of segregation) and I'm more than willing to bet that Lott was just being nice to the old bastig. Yet was stripped of all leadership roles and basically told to go hide in a corner.

Sen Robert Byrd is still in the Senate, filibustered the 1964 Civil Rights Act, was a Klan member up to around the same time as Thrumon.
A wiki bio for you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd
He is set to be president pro tempore of the Senate in 07

Now take off your R/D filters and tell me how Byrd is going to be in any kind of leadership position.

Pelosi endorsed Alcee Hastings to chair the Intelligence Committee!!!!
"In 1988, the Democratic-controlled U.S. House of Representatives took up the case, and Hastings was impeached for bribery and perjury by a vote of 413-3. Voters to impeach included Reps. Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer, John Conyers and Charles Rangel. He was then convicted in 1989 by the United States Senate, becoming only the sixth federal judge in the history of the United States to be removed from office by the Senate. The Senate had the option to forbid Hastings from ever seeking federal office again, but did not do so. Alleged co-conspirator William Borders went to jail again for refusing to testify in the impeachment proceedings, but was later given a full pardon by Bill Clinton on his last day in office"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcee_Hastings

I'm sure we can all come up with more on both sides of the isle, but lets make sure the rosy tint isn't on too thick when looking at our preferred "team"