Sorry, man, but Euterpe, a dude named oil analyst, and me I can deal with (somebody has to bring the lube). Having you in there would be just to freaking weird. Unless you're suggesting something more monogamous??????????????????
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Patrick Member
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Sorry, man, but Euterpe, a dude named oil analyst, and me I can deal with (somebody has to bring the lube). Having you in there would be just to freaking weird.
Yikes, I think I'll just tiptoe out of here for awhile.
If I offended any of my friends here I do apologize. Patrick, I didn't click on the links you provided until after I'd posted my response. I knew about the policy and a good deal about it and you might say that it's as much a hot topic to me as the earlier discussion was to Euterpe. But it affects me differently. I don't get nearly as MAD about it as I get hugely depressed.
I did look at them after I posted because I know that if you took the time to post them, they were important and relevant to you, and that even made it worse for me and I felt the need to lighten things up, at least for me. Hopefully for others, but I'll admit it was a selfish diversion on my part.
I'm not going to start going down the abortion debate road here, but I think my comments above also illustrate my feelings about that particular subject as well. It's just something that is very emotionally draining for me. I dislike waste of any kind, but the waste of a human being.........it's just more than I can deal with at times.
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Patrick Member
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If I offended any of my friends here I do apologize.
Not sure if you were including me there John, but I certainly wasn’t offended by anything you said.
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Patrick, I didn't click on the links you provided until after I'd posted my response. I did look at them after I posted because I know that if you took the time to post them, they were important and relevant to you...
Thanks John.
One thing I want to make clear to anyone reading this thread is that I didn’t post those links because I feel so self-righteous and smart. I posted them partly because I feel ashamed that I wasn’t aware of the huge scope of this horror until early last year when I watched an informative but sickening program on the CBC called Missing Women. It was quite a shock for me to discover that healthy newborn baby girls are being routinely murdered by the MILLIONS in several Asian countries for no other reason than these babies are not male.
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In certain regions of India and China, a "womanless" world is beginning to take shape. In a village in northern India some poor, single men are asked about their prospects for marriage. One of them says that in his region, "Ninety percent of the villages don't have any women".
I’ve gotta say that I don’t have a whole lot of sympathy for these men when they and their families continue to propagate this genocide.
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I am afraid what is happenning is a prelude to war or at least extreme social unrest (I lean toward war). I don''t think the social tensions of that large a male population will be relieved easily, and they will want a scapegoat, someone to blame. All they need is a rallying cause or a convincing leader.
I am afraid what is happenning is a prelude to war or at least extreme social unrest (I lean toward war). I don''t think the social tensions of that large a male population will be relieved easily, and they will want a scapegoat, someone to blame. All they need is a rallying cause or a convincing leader.
i think that's very perceptive.
do we have any idea of the age-cohort spread of these areas right now? (i know, i know... time for me to do a little of my own research. sheesh. it's like being back in grad school.)
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Originally posted by Patrick: Although this is a whole topic in itself, I wonder what's eventually going to happen in China where it's very, very common for couples to abort or kill (after giving birth) their daughters just because they’re female. Although this disgusting practice occurs in many other countries such as India, female infanticide has gotten much worse in China in the last 27 years due to China’s one-child policy.
Although already quite high, there's going to be a HUGE discrepancy between the numbers of "breeding age" men and women in China in the near future. I wonder if homosexuality and/or homosexual behavior between men will become more common there simply because of fewer options (like happens in prison)? It’ll be interesting to see how this evolves.
well, being they are over populated - or at least think they are - it will fix that immediate problem. I do beleive prostitution is legal & accepted as normal. so - there is a place to go if you are "in need" I would be more concerned with the middle east, where the female is a subspecies of human. AND there is no prostitution. I expect this is why the males are so aggressive. even toawrds themselves. a flock of whores has a very calming effect. instead of 21,000 more troops sent to Iraq - they should send 21,000 strippers....
well, being they are over populated - or at least think they are - it will fix that immediate problem. I do beleive prostitution is legal & accepted as normal. so - there is a place to go if you are "in need" I would be more concerned with the middle east, where the female is a subspecies of human. AND there is no prostitution. I expect this is why the males are so aggressive. even toawrds themselves. a flock of whores has a very calming effect. instead of 21,000 more troops sent to Iraq - they should send 21,000 strippers....
i had a professor who was an expert in conflict analysis, who had worked for some time on the theoretical implications of the apparent correlation between significant populations of "young angry men" and the incidence of violence.
carpet-bombing with prostitutes somehow never came up as a potential solution.
Although this is a whole topic in itself, I wonder what's eventually going to happen in China where it's very, very common for couples to abort or kill (after giving birth) their daughters just because they’re female. Although this disgusting practice occurs in many other countries such as India, female infanticide has gotten much worse in China in the last 27 years due to China’s one-child policy.
Although already quite high, there's going to be a HUGE discrepancy between the numbers of "breeding age" men and women in China in the near future. I wonder if homosexuality and/or homosexual behavior between men will become more common there simply because of fewer options (like happens in prison)? It’ll be interesting to see how this evolves.
Patrick - just found this this morning and thought you might find it interesting.
"China will have 30 million more men of marriageable age than women in less than 15 years..."
Thanks for the link, Loafer.
You sort of wonder why they couldn't have forseen a few problems down the road as they've been killing off all their daughters.
Who knows, maybe China's goal all along has been to create an enormous standing army made up of men who have little to no chance of ever having wives and family to care about or live for.
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carpet-bombing with prostitutes somehow never came up as a potential solution.
LOL! I remember reading the article by Muhammed Ali in Playboy "But Coach, It helps me Relax" (about 30 some odd years ago) about "intimacy". He said that one of the few fights he ever lost was after an "entourage". He said it "..took the fight out of you". Couldn't agree more.
Back to subject matter: It would be interesting to study how a culture/country progresses. Most of these cultures depend on the males to support parents in older age (I remember reading about the attitude in the Indian (India) beliefs. As a cultural population rises and emphasis drifts away from the individual to the survival of the "culture", could there arise attitudes that lead to values that would protect the "culture"? A mass "army", as mentioned?. An indirect consequence or simply a more generalized attitude that pervades their lifestyle?
I suspect many cultures have faced such crossroads. I'll have to think about that while I go feed my cows. tg
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So then when the children are institutionalized, fed properly, and raised as properly as the staff can....... they would become "normal"? Because I have proof that that is not true.
There was a show on a self destructive boy. He hit himself, pulled out his hair, ran into walls (with great force!), etc. He was as black and blue as you'd expect. Child protective services were called on him, because they thought the parents were abusing him. Today he is physically restrained in an institution, heavily medicated, being fed through a tube. He is no better today than when he was a child. As I recall, it started at age 2, and he's now 12 or 14 or something...
exceptions =/= the rule, most of the more infamous social/sexual deviations (murder, rape, pedophilia) have to do with childhood trauma, typically involving some sort of abuse (sexual, verbal, and or physical) by the parents. many of the children can be flagged using the MacDonald Triad. Chronic Bedwetting + Cruelty to Animals + firestarting are very good indications that something is seriously wrong with the child. very rarely is there no instance of abuse in these children. this rule has been used as an "early warning system" for serial killer tendencies. a bit tangential, perhaps, but the main point is that most of the time, a child's disturbed emotional/mental state has its roots in parental abuse.
