I don't necessarily wish to talk about a certain thread, more of a lack of any class by certain members. In OT, its not unheard of for people to have disagreements. It happens every day. But I have noticed some people designating themselves as the guard dogs of the forum, jumping in and interceding for people that they don't believe are smart enough or right enough to win the argument on their own. Who invited you? Are some people so stupid and feeble that they cannot make their own arguments? They need someone to come in and say "I'm going to f uck your mom and your wife." because that is a classy way to make your point? What is the deal?
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So some people are too stupid and feeble to prove their own points? They need a Super Hero poster to come in and make ad hominem attacks on their behalf? Give me a break. I'm pretty awesome, but come on.
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OKflyboy Member
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88: to come in and say "I'm going to f uck your mom and your wife."
Wah wah wah. You started it, dude. We tried this already. Had a forum jury and everything. No one here was willing to speak up and say they believed that you are the victim and I am the troll. In fact IIRC EVERYONE that spoke up stated the exact opposite.
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88: because that is a classy way to make your point? What is the deal?
Riiiiiight, 'cuz you're so classy when you say things like:
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88 in the "Adults only Question" thread: Maybe because flyboy's wife doesn't want him to know about vaginas. Too bad she's married to one.
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88 in the "Worst storm EVER" thread: Oh, congrats on the new man-whore job, flyboy.
(these both came first You brought up MY wife and then called me a "man-whore" NOT the other way around)
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OKflyboy Member
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But since were talking about decorum in T/OT, lets discuss the rules, shall we?
Keep it civilized! It's ok to disagree with someone. Really, it is. But it's not ok to call someone a "toad licking monkey waxer" just because he disagrees. It'll make you actually look like one. Name-calling will most likely get you a bad rating. At the very least, it will cause the thread to end up in the Trash Can, and at its very worst it will get you banned.
Do not start threads about other threads. So you get in a heated discussion in one of the threads. You get the feeling you are not getting your point across. So you feel the need to start a new thread explaining what you meant in the first thread. Don't. Since there's already a thread on the subject, say it there.
That's 2 rules broken in a 24 hour period.
Its simple, man. Just STFU and I will too. I've said it to you a dozen times. But you'd rather insult me, then my wife, and yet somehow try to still appear righteously indignant when I respond in kind.
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88: Well, by all means then. Go on about f ucking my 63 year old mother. Apples to apples on those comparisons.
Ahh, and there's #3:
Don't try to circumvent the censor system. The forum software automatically censors some 4-letter words (and even some 5- and 6-letter words). Don't try to circumvent it. We all know what you mean with "you svck" (actually, "suck" isn't censored of course, but you get my point).
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But lets get back to the question at hand, shall we? Clearly you have something against Nick. Whatever, like I told you before, I could care less about that. I just wanted you to keep it out of the forums. But noooooo.
But hey, clearly you think I have something personal against you (and since you brought my wife into, I think I'd be justified). Should I go ahead and just follow after every post you make here on PFF and find a way to question your character or just make stupid random insults? I mean, it would be exactly what you do to Nick, so how could you fault me for it? Right?
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But lets get back to the question at hand, shall we? Clearly you have something against Nick. Whatever, like I told you before, I could care less about that. I just wanted you to keep it out of the forums. But noooooo.
But hey, clearly you think I have something personal against you (and since you brought my wife into, I think I'd be justified). Should I go ahead and just follow after every post you make here on PFF and find a way to question your character or just make stupid random insults? I mean, it would be exactly what you do to Nick, so how could you fault me for it? Right?
What makes you think I have something "against" anybody? Because I occaisionally post in his threads? Believe me, for every OKflyboy who thinks I am being out of line, I'm getting PMs from people who have been around a lot longer then you and have shiny green bars who thank me for saying what they wish they would. But if I did have something "against" Nick, I would think that accusing my wife and I of insurance fraud would be enough. But hey "apologies were offered" so everything between Nick and I is roses. So I don't understand why he needs you to carry his books for him.
But hey, since you got a forum jury, well, that sounds official. Who is on the forum jury again?
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88: What makes you think I have something "against" anybody?
Perhaps the PMs where you flat out TOLD me you did?
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88: Who is on the forum jury again?
Everyone was invited to join:
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Originally posted by OKflyboy: Let's get a Forum Jury going, then? Does anyone want to speak up and tell me they believe I'm the troll here? If so, maybe I'll give it a rest, since you obviously cannot...
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88: But hey "apologies were offered" so everything between Nick and I is roses. So I don't understand why he needs you to carry his books for him.
No one's said he does. In fact ,I'm not carrying his books at all. This has little to do with Nick anymore. I tried talking to you politely once, tried explaining the folly of all this. You chose to insult me.
My reasons are simple. Basically I just want you to STFU. Leave the drama at home, so to speak. That's it. Period. Paragraph. The End. One simple thing. But you'd rather continue this pointless game. Getting yourself worked up. Starting new threads about the "forum guards" and making accusations about how deplorable my behavior is when it is merely a reflection of your behavior...
My role is equally simple. I am your mirror. Lurker had it right, "look within yourself for the answer."
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So what gives you the authority to judge my posts to other people in their threads as "drama"? Nick doesn't have a problem with me posting in his threads, yet any time I do, you feel the need to come along and slander me at every opportunity calling me a criminal. I would say if anyone needs to shut the f uck up, it's you. Nobody was talking to you in the first place.
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So what gives you the authority to judge my posts to other people in their threads as "drama"? Nick doesn't have a problem with me posting in his threads, yet any time I do, you feel the need to come along and slander me at every opportunity calling me a criminal. I would say if anyone needs to shut the f uck up, it's you. Nobody was talking to you in the first place.
So what gives you the authority to judge my posts? Nick doesn't have a problem with me posting in his threads either. But lets not forgot, you haven't stuck to just Nicks threads in your insults of me. You've insulted me (and my wife, and my house) outside of Nick's threads, (and outside of any provocative gesture on my part) have you not? Who's the slanderer here? Remember, mirror, dude, mirror. I defy you to find a thread where I started in on you before you started in on me or Nick.
You're not getting it. I'm not doing anything that you have not done (I have, in fact, done much much less). You cannot make the case that I an out of line without proving that you yourself are out of line. You cannot win this argument...
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So what gives you the authority to judge my posts? Nick doesn't have a problem with me posting in his threads...I defy you to find a thread where I started in on you before you started in on Nick.
When I'm the subject of your post, I think I would be the authority on the subject, by definition. I'd say that gives me some room to judge. Now, I can think of instances where you have taken completely uncalled for shots at me ("as much as it kills me to do it, I agree with WD88" in the scooters in OK thread sound familiar? I wasn't posting anything to either of you.) but scorekeeping is for elementary school. So you feel that you have a right to stick up for yourself. And by extension, Nick. So Nick doesn't have to answer for starting an evil, ugly rumor about me that you then perpetuate without any comment from him that he was wrong about that, even though "apologies were offered", so one would suppose that Nick didn't really mean it, he was just going through nicotine fits. So keep up your talk of me being a malingerer, an insurance fraud, etc. It's just the Internet, right. Talk about how you want to have sex with my mom. It's just the Internet. Nobody ever has to be accountable in real life for the lies and filth they spread.
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OOOOOHH!!! This looks like fun, can I play too??? Everyone else is arguing on here so I am going to argue with my split personality.
(me) You stink me2 (me2) No you're the one who smells bad me (me) Yeah, well you're that toad licker thing I heard about (me2) Nuh-uh, you're a man whore (me) Only when it comes to your mother (me2) Oh NO you ditent!! (me) Oh yes I di-id! (me2) That's it! me....I hereby am placing you under citizens arrest. You have the right to go to the forum jury. (me) No!!!! Not the forum jury!!!!!! (me2) Oh yeah, baby. The forum jury. Heh heh heh heh
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When I'm the subject of your post, I think I would be the authority on the subject, by definition. I'd say that gives me some room to judge.
Uhh, by definition that makes you the subject not the authority.
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88: Now, I can think of instances where you have taken completely uncalled for shots at me ("as much as it kills me to do it, I agree with WD88" in the scooters in OK thread sound familiar? I wasn't posting anything to either of you.)
Really, that's the best you can do. A post where I said I didn't want to agree with you, but did [agree]?
and since you brought it up, what you said was:
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I'm guessing that calling one of Oklahoma's thousands of tag agencies might have more accurate info then anyone here. One should be open in less then 10 hours.
which implies that no one here is going to know the answer. I replied, with the answer, but agreed that he should still call the tag agency.
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88: but scorekeeping is for elementary school.
LOL says the man who keeps bringing up the score...
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88: So keep up your talk of me being a malingerer, an insurance fraud, etc. It's just the Internet, right. Talk about how you want to have sex with my mom. It's just the Internet. Nobody ever has to be accountable in real life for the lies and filth they spread.
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88 in the "Adults only Question" thread: Maybe because flyboy's wife doesn't want him to know about vaginas. Too bad she's married to one.
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88 in the "Worst storm EVER" thread: Oh, congrats on the new man-whore job, flyboy.
- mirror -
So keep up your talk of me living in a ghetto house, having a wife that doesn't want me to learn about vaginas, etc. It's just the Internet, right. Talk about me being a man-whore. It's just the Internet. Nobody ever has to be accountable in real life for the lies and filth they spread.
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You were the one that said that their wife would put you on the couch if you saw a picture of a vagina on the Internet. You're the one who posted pictures of their house with out of control weeds and trash strewn about the lawn. Don't hate because I go fact-based with my comments. You have no facts.
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You were the one that said that their wife would put you on the couch if you saw a picture of a vagina on the Internet. You're the one who posted pictures of their house with out of control weeds and trash strewn about the lawn. Don't hate because I go fact-based with my comments. You have no facts.
Neither the picture of my lawn nor the comment about my wife required a rude response - you just chose to reply that way. Don't put the blame for your bad choices on me. I won't own them. That is the obvious problem here. You keep trying to make yourself out to be the victim here. But you keep starting the fights, not me, not Nick, you. I will not own your behavior.
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You're the one living in a trashy house afraid of your wife and the gas man, I'd say you may have been the one who made some poor decisions. Anyway, getting back to the subject of the thread, what made it necessary for you to chime in on Nick's behalf in the first place? Did he ask you to?
If you had minded your own business, I wouldn't even know who you are. But I suppose that was your point? Is this how you get your shiny bar? Don't bet too hard on green, buddy.
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You're the one living in a trashy house afraid of your wife and the gas man, I'd say you may have been the one who made some poor decisions.
And again, through all the accusations about me, you keep slingin' those insults around, don't you?
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88: Anyway, getting back to the subject of the thread, what made it necessary for you to chime in on Nick's behalf in the first place? Did he ask you to?
I already answered this. No one asked me to. I have no obligation to wait to be asked. I am a member of this forum and can respond to any post I like - same as you. As I said before, you cannot make the case that my behavior is out of line without making the case that your behavior is equally out of line. The difference between us is that I wait for you to say something insulting then respond to it. You OTOH, just jump into Nicks or my threads and start sniping from the corner and expect to do it with impunity...
Oh yeah, and I haven't been slinging out vitriol at people then starting threads about how unjustly I'm being treated by those same people.
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88: Is this how you get your shiny bar? Don't bet too hard on green, buddy.
You tell me? Already having been banned once (and by the look of it getting closer and closer to a 2nd every day) you must have much more experience with it than me. FWIW I'm making no guesses on what my bar will be when it shows up. I'll know when I know...
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Well, I'm so glad we got this settled. It is the right of any forum member to intercede on the behalf of someone who can't be expected to answer the tough questions that their own behavior holds them accountable to. So Nick doesn't need to explain how he can say that I am an insurance fraud, ane you get to call me a malingerer without any accountability. Nice.
Keep it up.
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OKflyboy Member
Posts: 6607 From: Not too far from Mexico Registered: Nov 2004
Why is WhiteDevil88 not banned yet? I mean, FierOgirl got banned and she was just ditzy. WhiteDevil88 is a tool. I negged him a while back with a note that "Deliberately trying to get banned by attacking others." All he does is stir up trouble. I don't see that he's made any other contributions to the forum than that.
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You know, I wonder that myself. This forum has sucked out of me any desire to contribute anything to it. I've started threads where I have speant hours posting up photography of mine, just to see the threads drop off the page without comment. But if I let someone crap on me, that thread goes multi page. This forum loves trash, and I am trash.
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