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Laser 917, a blast from anyones past? by 2.5
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Report this Post09-14-2009 08:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Direct Link to This Post
An odd, sort of dramatic kit car, one was at a show this past weekend.



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Report this Post09-14-2009 08:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for N3M3S1SSend a Private Message to N3M3S1SDirect Link to This Post
Never heard of it, but it's definitely interesting looking.
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Report this Post09-14-2009 08:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for User00013170Send a Private Message to User00013170Direct Link to This Post
If i remember right it was mostly a knock off of a bradley GT.

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Report this Post09-14-2009 08:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for heybjornSend a Private Message to heybjornDirect Link to This Post
That your wife, Nurb? I thought mine was short. Well, actually, at 5 feet, she is.

As for the cars, aren't they all descendants of the Bradley GT or Meyers Manx?
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Report this Post09-14-2009 09:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Direct Link to This Post
I thought it looked like a spittin image of Mclaren's M6A , (Except it had a Chevtolet V8 )




[URL=http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.mathewscollection.com/images/mclaren/m6a_250.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mathewscollection.com/mclaren/collection_mclaren.htm&usg=__DJkgFsmFgjgfEaMzMU1gTSOf9uY=&h=141&w=250&sz=16&hl=en&start=10&um=1&tbnid =Tjr_]http://images.google.com/im...t=10&um=1&tbnid=Tjr_[/URL]

or M6GT

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Report this Post09-14-2009 09:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for heybjornSend a Private Message to heybjornDirect Link to This Post
McLaren sports cars. A thing of beauty really is a joy forever.
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Report this Post09-14-2009 09:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Copper85GTSend a Private Message to Copper85GTDirect Link to This Post
Actually a replica of a Porsche....yeah I know it's on the sign but I did know that before I read it.
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My dad built a brown metallic Bradley GT in 1976 and donated it to a tech school in 84. Probably a good thing as I was too young to drive at the time. It was definitely a head turner. I remember seeing the Laser 917 ads in a lot of magazines when I was a kid.
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well it kinda sorta looks ruffly like a 917 in a crude rude way

btw a real close copy of a 917 is being made
all porsche bits [911 6] but no flat 12
personally I think the 908's looked better
esp the cleaner first coupes

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Originally posted by Copper85GT:

Actually a replica of a Porsche....yeah I know it's on the sign but I did know that before I read it.


Yep...a rather loose copy of a Porsche 917. They were pretty famous years ago, especially with Gulf Oil as a sponsor.....



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Originally posted by heybjorn:

McLaren sports cars. A thing of beauty really is a joy forever.


I saw a M6 b coupe body real mac body parts they made a bunch to qualify as a GT
but sadly a VW frame and gear and the guy wanted 25,000 for it in about 89 or so
looked nice but no real power told the owner you should of had a V8

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Report this Post09-15-2009 12:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FlambergeSend a Private Message to FlambergeDirect Link to This Post
The Porsche 917 is one of my all time favorite things on 4 wheels. Beautiful from every angle!!

 
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Some of the cars we built included the Bradley GT and the GT II, the Dino 246, the MBG TD, and the Laser 917. The 917 wasn't copied from the Bradley, but from the Porsche race car.

The Laser 917 had a horrible blind spot to the rear. You never wanted to parallel park unless you had someone standing behind to direct you. Also, getting in and out of the slightest inclined driveway almost guaranteed scraping the nose, or in some cases breaking it somewhere in the fenderwell arch. It was a real eye catcher, though.
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Originally posted by heybjorn:

That your wife, Nurb? I thought mine was short. Well, actually, at 5 feet, she is.

As for the cars, aren't they all descendants of the Bradley GT or Meyers Manx?


Not my car in the picture, never was a fan of the Bradleys.

Personally i think the Manx was a different animal ( sorry for the pun.. ). I loved the ManxSR
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Originally posted by litespd:
Yep...a rather loose copy of a Porsche 917. They were pretty famous years ago, especially with Gulf Oil as a sponsor.....




ahhhh - the glory days of racing
massive HP's - wiiiide tires - and a fearless driver

these crazy machine is what created todays safety rules & started the "detuning" phase

the last of the REAL race cars
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Originally posted by Pyrthian:


ahhhh - the glory days of racing
massive HP's - wiiiide tires - and a fearless driver

these crazy machine is what created todays safety rules & started the "detuning" phase

the last of the REAL race cars



I look at some of those cars from years back and think they were crazy. Then I wonder what are the guys 30-40 years from now going to say about guys like me that race today. Makes you wonder just how safe we are, and what improvements/changes are coming in the future.
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Originally posted by SCCAFiero:

I look at some of those cars from years back and think they were crazy.



Back in the 1960s and early 1970s I was a part time working photographer, and I occasionally covered races involving big-name drivers. One of the first such races was the Times Grand Prix at Riverside, CA in 1961. Ten years later I was looking through the photos and was shocked to realize that more than a third of those world-class drivers had since died in their race cars. (Sadly, all those 1961 photos were lost in a fire in 1996.)


Jackie Stewart posing on the starting grid before the CanAm race at Donnybrooke Raceway, MN, September 12, 1972
Photo Copyright (C) 1972 by A. Marvin McInnis

Prior to the implementation of track safety standards in the 1970s, the death rate among world-class drivers was sometimes staggering. Up to the middle 1970s, the on-track mortality rate of Formula 1 drivers was higher than 50 percent. According to the official Formula 1 web site: "In one particularly lethal period during [Jackie Stewart's] era the chances of a driver who raced for five years being killed were two out of three." When Denny Hulme died in 1992, he became the first Formula 1 World Champion ever to die of natural causes! Racing is inherently dangerous; if you are driving at only 99%, there is usually some other driver willing to run at 99.5% to beat you.

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Originally posted by Marvin McInnis:
Racing is inherently dangerous; if you are driving at only 99%, there is usually some other driver willing to run at 99.5% to beat you.



That would be my buddy John. If he keeps up his balls to the wall racing style he will kill himself.

I do LOVE Porsche 917's though, it's too bad they were so dangerous to race.

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Originally posted by Derek_85GT:

That would be my buddy John. If he keeps up his balls to the wall racing style he will kill himself.



That's the problem, and the danger. Driving at 99.5% wins races, but driving at 100.1% may kill you. Most world-class drivers are stunningly good athletes, and their 99.5% is usually significantly better than yours or mine.

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Originally posted by litespd:


Yep...a rather loose copy of a Porsche 917. They were pretty famous years ago, especially with Gulf Oil as a sponsor.....




Well I guess "Duh" should have popped into my head earlier. Since it has so many VW related parts and 917 in the name, thats a Porsche I never realized existed.
Seems alot of that era racers had body lines in common.
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Report this Post09-15-2009 05:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for phreakboy4Send a Private Message to phreakboy4Direct Link to This Post
Here is some pics of a nice build that was recently done on another forum I am on.





In case anybody is interested in the build, the link is below.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/...ostorder=asc&start=0
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I liked the 908s myself. Never a fan of 917. If I remember the 12 cyl in those had something like 1100 hp.
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The Meyers Manx is/was a dune buggy. All but the very first of the Manx' were built using VW powertrains although some of the later knockoffs used Corvair, etc powertrains. The Manx was an open top buggy with a body (as much as any '60s/'70s dune buggy had a body...basically a fiberglass tub with some almost fenders ). Here's their website.

In other worthless info, Bruce Manx is considered the godfather of all dune buggies. He moved out of the States years ago (and relocated to the Isle of Man, I think). The Manx started out not VW based but it was expensive. I think it only took a year of so before Manx decided to start using a shorted VW floorpan. There aren't many original Manx or Manx 2s out there anymore. Not a lot were produced to begin with and with the "high" quality of fiberglass production in the '60s and '70s and the fact that alot of the dune buggies were actually used to romp around sand dunes, not alot survived. A pristine original Meyers Manx (the original, not the Manx 2) can be upwards of $25,000 if you can find one. Personally, I'd rather buy a later knock off and spend half of that knowing that I could beat the poop out of it but that's just me.

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Kind of hard to find those old kit cars now. I just found two Bradley's sitting behind a local muffler shop. One has a tree growing through the roof. They are trying to locate the owner for me, see if I can haul them off for them.
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Originally posted by reverend:

Kind of hard to find those old kit cars now. I just found two Bradley's sitting behind a local muffler shop. One has a tree growing through the roof. They are trying to locate the owner for me, see if I can haul them off for them.


Never hurts to ask, one can get alot of toys that way!
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