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Frankenstein Strat by heybjorn
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Report this Post10-03-2009 06:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for heybjornSend a Private Message to heybjornDirect Link to This Post
OK, OK, guys, polish the pickguard and forget the paint. I get it. What about an engine turned finish?


I own page 2! But its my thread , so I guess that isn't such a big deal.

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Originally posted by Arns85GT:
If you are still intent on using the ss piece there is a strategy to help with wear. Use cold gun blue on it. The gun blue (you can purchase at any gun shop) actually looks pretty sharp on its own. You can paint over it and if the paint gets scratched it will have the dark gun blue finish under it to keep the looks better.

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Admittedly, I know nothing about guitars but, I like the bluing idea.

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We used a

to put a grain in SS.
It also does a good job on exhaust pipe.

If you have access to a belt sander you can get a scotch brite belt and put a nice grain on it pretty quickly.
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The guitar is looking good, Mike. Ron, I think some 30 grit sand paper might get the rough spots out with the object in this pick....not really sure.

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Originally posted by heybjorn:

OK, OK, guys, polish the pickguard and forget the paint. I get it. What about an engine turned finish?


I own page 2! But its my thread , so I guess that isn't such a big deal.



you know, you could cover it in leather or something if you really want it black.
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Report this Post10-04-2009 09:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for heybjornSend a Private Message to heybjornDirect Link to This Post
No, sorry, I've taken all the suggestions from you guys I can stand! j/k

I need to rename this thread The forum tells heybjorn how to build his guitar. This guitar was planned to be all black with gold accented paint, and the pick guard was to be gold plastic. First Arn, then fierofetish, then blackrams, and then Raydar all said, " that grain sure is pretty, be a shame to hide it," so I changed my plan and went with stain. Now all of you are saying, " Stainless pickguard? Go with brightly polished." Ok, it is a good suggestion and I"M GOING WITH IT! But that's it! No more suggestions. I'm not listening.

There will be another guitar project when this one is complete, but all of you will find out about it as it unfolds. No hints, no telling you what I will be doing; you will get to see the work as I finish it. So there.
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I think we struck a chord.
Or a nerve.
Or something.

Whatcha gonna do with the neck/frets?
We can mug you about those, too.

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Originally posted by heybjorn:

No, sorry, I've taken all the suggestions from you guys I can stand! j/k

I need to rename this thread The forum tells heybjorn how to build his guitar. This guitar was planned to be all black with gold accented paint, and the pick guard was to be gold plastic. First Arn, then fierofetish, then blackrams, and then Raydar all said, " that grain sure is pretty, be a shame to hide it," so I changed my plan and went with stain. Now all of you are saying, " Stainless pickguard? Go with brightly polished." Ok, it is a good suggestion and I"M GOING WITH IT! But that's it! No more suggestions. I'm not listening.

There will be another guitar project when this one is complete, but all of you will find out about it as it unfolds. No hints, no telling you what I will be doing; you will get to see the work as I finish it. So there.


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LOL again I'd say.

The trouble with the forum is that everybody has an opinion. It's like what colour to paint the car

That wood grain will be nice. It's a good call to use it.

This is my red Melodymaker with the old pickguard. You'll notice the old pickguard has white lining. The new one is plain black.

The grain on the Melodymaker is not a standout as the frankenstein strat. The strat body has a bold and rather attractive grain.

The Gibson folks used a red dye on the wood and then clear laquer over it. Since I've owned the guitar I have freshened up the lacquer but left the finish as stock. The rest of it is far from stock. I expect the strat will look nicer than the Melodymaker



This is another one I did up and also red wood grain. Notice again it does not have the nice grain the strat has.

BTW the jazzmaster tremolo was a mistake if you're ever tempted to try one. I sold it and this guitar is currently being rebuilt as a gunmetal grey metalic guitar with gold hardware.



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Originally posted by Raydar:

Whatcha gonna do with the neck/frets?



Put strings over them so I can play it, Raydar. You do understand the point of this whole thing, don't you?

Actually, that is a question I need answered. The frets are in good shape, but the fingerboard has lots of dirt. I've seen a suggestion to use 0000 steel wool to clean the fretboard, then a drop of lemon on a rag to brighten it. Is this the way to go?
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Originally posted by heybjorn:

Put strings over them so I can play it, Raydar.
...


I meant before that.



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Put strings over them so I can play it, Raydar. You do understand the point of this whole thing, don't you?

Actually, that is a question I need answered. The frets are in good shape, but the fingerboard has lots of dirt. I've seen a suggestion to use 0000 steel wool to clean the fretboard, then a drop of lemon on a rag to brighten it. Is this the way to go?


0000 steel wool is ok but it leaves fibres under the frets. One of those fiber pads is better. I use Lemon Oil to clean and refresh the wood on the fret board. Lemon oil is a good thing for string cleaning too. It gets into the coils on the strings and prevents rust

In recent years I've been laquering fret boards. I know there are guys who will jump all over this, but, the lacquer goes right into the grain and stabilizes the frets as well. You'd be amazed how the wood soaks it up. However, Lemon Oil is the tried and true that you need to bring it up.

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Originally posted by heybjorn:

No, sorry, I've taken all the suggestions from you guys I can stand! j/k

I need to rename this thread The forum tells heybjorn how to build his guitar. This guitar was planned to be all black with gold accented paint, and the pick guard was to be gold plastic. First Arn, then fierofetish, then blackrams, and then Raydar all said, " that grain sure is pretty, be a shame to hide it," so I changed my plan and went with stain. Now all of you are saying, " Stainless pickguard? Go with brightly polished." Ok, it is a good suggestion and I"M GOING WITH IT! But that's it! No more suggestions. I'm not listening.

There will be another guitar project when this one is complete, but all of you will find out about it as it unfolds. No hints, no telling you what I will be doing; you will get to see the work as I finish it. So there.


for the next guitar, you should do a gibson jk
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Originally posted by Arns85GT:

0000 steel wool is ok but it leaves fibres under the frets.
Arn


Well, since I've got enough to fret about, I 'll go with a ScotchBrite pad.

 
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for the next guitar, you should do a gibson jk


That would be a hoot!

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The above joke is a pun, a reference to cowboy star Hoot Gibson, and has the subtext of " a good time." For those who didn't get the reference, like you, Nick, I will try to keep the references to more modern information.
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Originally posted by USFiero:

bump


Mike is currently out on the road touring and promoting his newest album. He should return to the recording studio this weekend.

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In the interest of full disclosure, I have to point out that Ron has asked for a job as a roadie when the world tour starts; he will probably want to supervise.


For those of you not familiar with the music, try this this and especially this.
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Originally posted by heybjorn:

In the interest of full disclosure, I have to point out that Ron has asked for a job as a roadie when the world tour starts; he will probably want to supervise.


For those of you not familiar with the music, try this this and especially this.


I like Dead Skunk. Songs that have no relevance to anything are awesome!

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Report this Post10-16-2009 05:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for heybjornSend a Private Message to heybjornDirect Link to This Post
Cleaned up the neck this afternoon.
Before


After

My son David said, " Guys on a car forum understand dirt and grime. You won't have to explain the picture."

I didn't like the results of the original stain application, so I sanded it off, sanded out the scratches at the bottom of the front, and re-stained it. Here is two coats of stain.


The sides are much darker. I like this, but its more brown than red. The grain is still visible, though. I may go this depth of color for the whole thing. Guitar holder is not the same one as in the first picture in this thread.
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Wow that looks great, I bet that would look great if you painted it all black
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WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT?
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Originally posted by heybjorn:

WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT?


LOL
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Well, I can't resist. And please excuse this old fart in the corner. I just finished my own Frankenstein Strat. It has a Paulownia wood body, maple neck, overwound humbuckers with an upgrade ss trem.

Now if I have it correct, I think you can do up yours even prettier and better. I hope this gives you some inspiration



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Beautiful, Arn, quite beautiful. Thanks for sharing the pic.
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You just don't know how close I am to tearing into my guitar This has been a very inspirational thread.
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I have zero... well if you rounded it up - zero - luthier skills. but i wanted to build my own strat, replace the fretboard, bill Lawrence pickups, new hardware... more .
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Originally posted by USFiero:

I have zero... well if you rounded it up - zero - luthier skills.


I can spell luthier. Could spell it even before your post. Other skills, no.

These may be one size fits in China, but not in the USA. I have destroyed four pair just pulling them on.


 
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. . .This is a tung oil stain, and easy to apply, but it leaves a terrible taste in your mouth. At least, that what Linda tells me. Made her tongue darker, too, but it's not unattractive.


Linda refused to apply the new coats of stain. That's ok; I used her toothbrush. After two weeks, her tongue is back to its normal color .

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Any progress? Stain done?

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We could debate the merits of Bill LAwrence vs Bill Lawrence USA pickups...
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No progress this week, and it is raining right now. The next coat of stain will be heavy.

 
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We could debate the merits of Bill LAwrence vs Bill Lawrence USA pickups...


Give us a place to start, USFiero. All I can tell about pickups is that I like the sound of the Seymour Duncan SH-2, and that's based on the sample on their webpage.
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No progress this week, and it is raining right now. The next coat of stain will be heavy.



Uh, I advise staining indoors.
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Thanks, 2.5, but everything indoors is already the color Linda wants it, and you know I'm not pushing my luck with that.
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I found this fascinating:

http://www.nmguitars.com/A_...dwich/Chambered.html


More pictures of mine tomorrow.
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cool!
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It's as dark as I want; now to get the color evened out. Then several coats of gloss lacquer. While that dries thoroughly, I will work on the pickguard.
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It's looking good Mike!

 
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I found this fascinating:

http://www.nmguitars.com/A_...dwich/Chambered.html



Holy smokes!
That man has a lot of time and patience (not to mention tools.)
Also has a lot of skill.
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It's looking good Mike!


Holy smokes!
That man has a lot of time and patience (not to mention tools.)
Also has a lot of skill.


He needs a webmaster
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For no finish yet that ain't lookin' bad at all. I think I'd go darker on the fret board though. Just a thought

So is this chrome or gold hardware?

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The tuners will be the original ones, as will the white humbuckers. Everything else will be black. I thought about replacing the pickups with black ones, but Linda and David suggested learning how to do the work with this first guitar, and putting all the refinements and aesthetic perfection into the next one, which will be completely different.

Arn, can I use any oil-based dark/black stain on the fretboard? Also, you mentioned using lacquer on everything. Does that include an ebony or rosewood fretboard?
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