Sort of correct. If you get far enough ahead they cant radio others to tell them where you are. Regardless of radio, police always tend to chase a bad guy at least once in every city in the US every day.
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Fformula88 Member
Posts: 7891 From: Buffalo, NY Registered: Mar 2000
Around here the Charger has not been too popular with police departments. I am not sure if it is the unibody, or the size, or just the fact that all the departments are set up to service the Crown Vics, with tons of parts and expertise on them.
I suspect Chevy's Carprice Interceptor that they are bringing over from Australia will get a lot of sales. It seems a little bigger than the Chargers, and is RWD (The AWD Taurus's I doubt are going to be popular with the front end drivetrain, and the added complexity and maintenance costs of the AWD drivetrain).
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blackrams Member
Posts: 32041 From: Covington, TN, USA Registered: Feb 2003
Unlike the Canadian built Charger? If you want a car built in the U.S., try a Honda or BMW. I believe the Taurus is made in the U.S. as well.
Just goes to show you, we are doomed. Didn't know the Charger was built in Canada. Sure wish they'd join the republic, sure would make things easier. But, I'm still pulling for the Taurus.
Ron
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Flamberge Member
Posts: 4268 From: Terra Sancta, TX Registered: Oct 2001
About fifteen or twenty years ago Texas state troopers drove Camaros.
Here's a question I've always wondered, since we're talking about it. Pardon my ignorance in advance.
What defines a police car as a cruiser vs. an interceptor? Is the interceptor built for speed and freeway work (to "intercept")?
Also, are there other classes of police car?
I'm thinking cruiser and interceptor might be interchangeable phrases, and not specific cars that have differing performance/handling attributes.
The Crown Victoria "P71" option package is actually called a "Police Interceptor." That's what it is... regardless if it's used by a meter maid, or a highway patrol officer.
The Crown Victoria "P71" option package is actually called a "Police Interceptor." That's what it is... regardless if it's used by a meter maid, or a highway patrol officer.
So what about a police cruiser? Just a term cops use? (Like, I left my coffee in the cruiser?)
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82-T/A [At Work] Member
Posts: 23967 From: Florida USA Registered: Aug 2002
Back when the whole GM/Chrysler "Bail-out" happened, the city of indianapolis purchased 500 toyota Camry's to replace our old worn out crown vics. This was a HOT topic for a while and the PD was extremely ridiculed for not buying american when the American car market was suffering most. All of those cars ended up as debadged undercover cars and detective cruisers in an attempt to let the drama die. I see them around now and then.
We also have cops driving everything from Scion's, to a yellow 95' Firebird Formula, to an STI, and Chevy Tahoe's around here. There's nothing they don't drive anymore because they passed a law saying the cops could equip their own personal vehicles for police use. You never know what they'll be pulling you over in next!
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82-T/A [At Work] Member
Posts: 23967 From: Florida USA Registered: Aug 2002
Back when the whole GM/Chrysler "Bail-out" happened, the city of indianapolis purchased 500 toyota Camry's to replace our old worn out crown vics. This was a HOT topic for a while and the PD was extremely ridiculed for not buying american when the American car market was suffering most. All of those cars ended up as debadged undercover cars and detective cruisers in an attempt to let the drama die. I see them around now and then.
We also have cops driving everything from Scion's, to a yellow 95' Firebird Formula, to an STI, and Chevy Tahoe's around here. There's nothing they don't drive anymore because they passed a law saying the cops could equip their own personal vehicles for police use. You never know what they'll be pulling you over in next!
Geeze... Toyota Camrys? I can't possibly think of anything less that would be totally unable to handle driving over curbs and embankments... maybe they use the SUV's for that kind of duty...
They must get trashed and have to have their front bumpers / chin spoilers changed regularly...
But man... Indianapolis? How could the town allow that?
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Geeze... Toyota Camrys? I can't possibly think of anything less that would be totally unable to handle driving over curbs and embankments... maybe they use the SUV's for that kind of duty...
They must get trashed and have to have their front bumpers / chin spoilers changed regularly...
But man... Indianapolis? How could the town allow that?
It was a simple thought, better fuel economy+better reliability= money saved. The public didn't see it that way. Our citizens were outraged and I'm pretty sure the PD paid the news channels to stop talking about it because it just fell off the air one day and was never brought up again.
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rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
While Charger is assembled in Canada, I dont know where parts or subassemblies are made...maybe US. Regardless, LOTS of US employees work there on them. I do know the transmissions and brakes come from Germany and the Hemi engine is made in Mexico. If I remember right, the Taurus is completely built in Mexico too.
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82-T/A [At Work] Member
Posts: 23967 From: Florida USA Registered: Aug 2002
While Charger is assembled in Canada, I dont know where parts or subassemblies are made...maybe US. Regardless, LOTS of US employees work there on them. I do know the transmissions and brakes come from Germany and the Hemi engine is made in Mexico. If I remember right, the Taurus is completely built in Mexico too.
The Taurus is made in Illinois, under UAW rule...
But pretty much everything else made by Ford is in Mexico. The Taurus would have been made in Mexico, but because of a huge push by Obama, and tons of tax breaks, they decided to keep production of the Taurus in IL.
The goal is to eventually move all production of Ford vehicles into Mexico and the southern "Right-To-Work" states. Once all affiliation with the UAW is disolved, then they hope to move back production into the US.
I hope no law enforcement agencies buy that car base on it getting the gas milage of a V6. It won't come close. In fact, I won't be surprised if it gets worse gas milage than a V8.
In my city, I swear the police and deputies have binary gas pedals. They are either parked and idling or driving flat out. Driving a turbo charged car in boost will result in very poor gas milage. Frankly, with that much horse power, the cops won't be able to help themselves. I expect to see a number of them wrapped around trees and in the ditch when it rains too.
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Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
Originally posted by Flamberge: What defines a police car as a cruiser vs. an interceptor? Is the interceptor built for speed and freeway work (to "intercept")?
Also, are there other classes of police car?
I'm thinking cruiser and interceptor might be interchangeable phrases, and not specific cars that have differing performance/handling attributes.
I don't think there's any official definition. It's a marketing term, like Ram Air. That said, police cars have different configuration depending on if it's a city patrol or highway patrol car. City cars are typically geared lower for better off the line acceleration, but that hurts top end performance. Highway patrol cars will have higher gearing for better top speed. This is so either car will have the best acceleration for the environment it's in. That allows the officer to close the gap and pull someone over or end a chase more quickly.
A lot of city Crown Vics would have 3.55:1 rear gears, while I believe 3.27 was more common on the highway cars. Both are more performance oriented than the grandma 2.73:1 gearing the standard cars got.
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Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: The goal is to eventually move all production of Ford vehicles into Mexico and the southern "Right-To-Work" states. Once all affiliation with the UAW is disolved, then they hope to move back production into the US.
Ford just gets better and better. Looks like they're going to be the one to watch in the 21st century.
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84fiero123 Member
Posts: 29950 From: farmington, maine usa Registered: Oct 2004
But pretty much everything else made by Ford is in Mexico. The Taurus would have been made in Mexico, but because of a huge push by Obama, and tons of tax breaks, they decided to keep production of the Taurus in IL.
The goal is to eventually move all production of Ford vehicles into Mexico and the southern "Right-To-Work" states. Once all affiliation with the UAW is disolved, then they hope to move back production into the US.
Historic Milestones 1914: Production begins in March; plant turns out 4,211 Model Ts 1924: Chicago Assembly moves to 11-acre plant at 12600 Torrence Avenue, Chicago 1942: Plant changes from civilian production to World War II production 1945: First civilian vehicle – 1946 Mercury Sedan – rolls off the line 1946: Ford and UAW sign contract making Ford employees, at $1.40 an hour, the highest paid auto employees 1962: Plant begins work on 44,000-square-foot expansion 1964: Second shift re-added; plant celebrates 50 years of production in Chicago, 40 years in the current plant 1977: A 36,000-square-foot addition is added, bringing plant's total size to more than 2 million square feet 1985: Production starts on Taurus and Sable after $205 million in plant renovations 1995: Plant undergoes $285 million renovation, gets 200,000-square-foot addition to help produce new Taurus / Sable 2004: Plant undergoes $400 million modernization that includes addition of a flexible body shop
Historic Milestones 1914: Production begins in March; plant turns out 4,211 Model Ts 1924: Chicago Assembly moves to 11-acre plant at 12600 Torrence Avenue, Chicago 1942: Plant changes from civilian production to World War II production 1945: First civilian vehicle – 1946 Mercury Sedan – rolls off the line 1946: Ford and UAW sign contract making Ford employees, at $1.40 an hour, the highest paid auto employees 1962: Plant begins work on 44,000-square-foot expansion 1964: Second shift re-added; plant celebrates 50 years of production in Chicago, 40 years in the current plant 1977: A 36,000-square-foot addition is added, bringing plant's total size to more than 2 million square feet 1985: Production starts on Taurus and Sable after $205 million in plant renovations 1995: Plant undergoes $285 million renovation, gets 200,000-square-foot addition to help produce new Taurus / Sable 2004: Plant undergoes $400 million modernization that includes addition of a flexible body shop
It's going to change significantly in the next year when they update it. The Ford Ranger is going away, so is the Ford Escape... a couple of their other cars will be gone too.
A couple of those cars mentioned under Ford will also be moving to Mexico. They just spent several billion dollars right there on the border building several factories.
Personally, I've never owned a Ford Ranger before, but I think it's a shame that they're discontinuing it.
I have driven The Chevy Impala, Ford Crown Vic, and Ford Explorer on Patrol. I never had a charger assigned, but from everything I have seen in person from a another agency here that had them, I love them. Many of us would take the charger hands down over these other options.
they are roomy enough, but to be honest, ....their fun! I have been in many pursuits, and the other cars just don't have the balls sometimes.
A Taurus? com on.
Last true police car was the Chevy Caprice.
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blackrams Member
Posts: 32041 From: Covington, TN, USA Registered: Feb 2003
I have driven The Chevy Impala, Ford Crown Vic, and Ford Explorer on Patrol. I had a charger assigned, but from everything I have seen in person from a another agency here that had them, I love them. Many of use would take the charger hands down over these other options.
A Taurus? com on.
Last true police car was the Chevy Caprice.
Well, there's one qualified opinion from a LEO. Any others on the forum?
Ron
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Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
Wish I knew the answer to that question. This is gonna keep me up all night. 
