The next 20 to 24 hours have the winds blowing inland. As long as they don't have an explosion that ejects longer-life isotopes, it won't be a big deal. As far as the Yahoo report, start searching beyond Yahoo's incredible ability to emulate the Entertainment Network. Yahoo is the least reliable news repeating service, so much so I tend to ignore any links they repeat.
Once I linked to a Yahoo story only to check the link a few hours later and the story changed. If by some chance I link to a Yahoo story, I copy the text and paste it as an article along with the link just in case the story changes. There is a video on my channel covering that little charm.
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07:45 PM
phonedawgz Member
Posts: 17091 From: Green Bay, WI USA Registered: Dec 2009
Breaking 2nd explosion at reactor 2 according to Fox News containment breach!!! No link yet, was just on TV. If this is so, Reactor 2 has went into full meltdown!!
Anything to back up your statement? Or just trying to cause alarm?
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07:54 PM
Wudman Member
Posts: 1593 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Jan 2001
Phonedawg, stop watching that Packer's Superbowl video tape and get in the stream. Most of the stuff is out there if you take some time to research instead of just calling out everyone as "Chicken Littles".
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08:05 PM
phonedawgz Member
Posts: 17091 From: Green Bay, WI USA Registered: Dec 2009
Anything to back up your statement? Or just trying to cause alarm?
Maybe a link? The statements you are attributing to be from a news conference are not the type of things that are said at news conferences.
Give it a minute, I am sure the link will pop up. I am piggybacking a feed that monitors the press conferences via the net. I was typing as it was being translated live. Having said that, I have absolute faith there will be a link soon enough. Of course at the same time I was watching my net feed, parts of that news conference was being broadcast on CNN.
You could have watched that.
One thing I have learned is that if a debate or even an interaction style feels "circular", there is nothing that one could say or post that would be validated as real.
When you troll all the news sources for the worst possible case news reporting you will find it.
Well sir, I stand corrected! I see the error of my ways. I though you were serious about news and really wanted links to current news stories from multiple sources. I understand now your standard for news is a comment on an MSNBC news story that is three explosions ago.
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08:49 PM
Raydar Member
Posts: 40912 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
I realized, when I was rereading that posting, that the info is now almost 27 hours old. A lifetime in this situation. As I said when I made the posting, please take it with a grain of salt. Things can change (and apparently have) rapidly.
Please keep it up Wudman. While I don't believe much of anything I hear or read until I've heard it from several directions, I find your dissertations quite thoughtful and interesting. Gonna have to check out your channel more.
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08:50 PM
Wudman Member
Posts: 1593 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Jan 2001
From the "talking head".. The last explosion came from within the containment vessel. This power plant has the worst safety record and the company has a history of lying. What a combination, we are operating where all answers are theoretical and the company in charge appears to be incapable of managing the emergency or truth.
Like most places, those in charge aren't always the most qualified. Once in awhile it has enormous consequences.
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Mar 15th, 2011
Fieromaniac Member
Posts: 980 From: Hamburg, Germany Registered: Nov 2006
i really hope that no other containments blow . Japan called officially for US help to cool their reactors . That would have been good two days ago but now ?
I really hope that there will be no chernobyl like cloud and i hope that the US westcoast wont get much radiation .
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phonedawgz Member
Posts: 17091 From: Green Bay, WI USA Registered: Dec 2009
What I am interested in is what is actually happening. What I am not interested in is someone who doesn't understand what is happening attempting to translate it and misrepresents it.
What I am interested in is what is actually happening. What I am not interested in is someone who doesn't understand what is happening attempting to translate it and misrepresents it.
Then you should head over there, all we are getting here is bad translation attempts.
Like most places, those in charge aren't always the most qualified. Once in awhile it has enormous consequences.
Yeah, I remember when the managers said go on the launch, frozen O-rings and all...
------------------ Bring back civility and decorum!
It's possible to understand someone's point of view without accepting it. It's possible to disagree with someone without being rude and nasty about it. Sure it's hard, but nothing worth doing is ever easy, is it?
The comment was removed because enough crap was going on off topic, I didn't need to add to it, just to make a point. As stated in the other thread I will not allow you to take the thread to the trash can.
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Sep 11th, 2011
dennis_6 Member
Posts: 7196 From: between here and there Registered: Aug 2001
It takes time for the reactions to subside. During that time the excess heat needs to be dissipated or the core will overheat and the tube that hold the fuel will melt.
I see the problem in expecting the power plants are not going to have issues. Tens of thousands of people died and entire cities have been wiped out. There have been serious fires and explosions at other locations.
There are also 3 reactors that need to continue to be cooled. This could turn into one more serous situation. So far it has been contained. There is pretty much 0% chance that any radioactive issues could reach California, even in the worst foreseeable situations.
Once again you were wrong. California did get light fallout.
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phonedawgz Member
Posts: 17091 From: Green Bay, WI USA Registered: Dec 2009
The level of radioactivity was too low to be of an issue.
Yes detectable, but no not an issue. To put it in perspective, it is possible to detect a sample of air and tell if the air was pre-1945 or post 1945 because of detectable radioactivity. And no, it is not an issue.
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Raydar Member
Posts: 40912 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
Like making some dumb ass statement like the Japanese government was going to begin to cap the reactor in the next three hours? Clearly there has been one side of this discussion that has been continuously way off the mark.
I know you and Dennis_6 will always be Nuke power haters. I just have a huge issue with the misinformation that has been tried to be spread to OTHERS via these threads.
If you two don't like the fact that I call your statements wacko - then don't make wacko statements. Learn the difference between plutonium and polonium. Just because they are both radioactive, and the spelling looks similar doesn't make them similar. You now know what containment is and that it makes a huge difference in the safety of a nuclear reactor accident. It's clear that someone had no idea before. You learned that Chernobyl didn't melt down, it exploded and burned. You learned Chernobyl was a poorly designed unstable Russian graphite reactor. You learned that there was no way they were going to start pouring concrete on the hot reactor on day 3.
When YOU two use tactics like going back months and dredging up old discussions and then re-posting them, YOU will be doing nothing but getting these threads locked - which btw, would be just fine with me.
WHEN YOUR SOURCE USES WORDS LIKE 'IT APPEARS' FOR YOU TO REPEAT THAT STATEMENT OMITTING THE WORDS CHANGES THE MEANING OF THE SENTENCE AND MAKES YOUR STATEMENTING INCORRECT.
In the future do some thinking (research) before posting some wacko statement and you guys won't look quite so foolish.
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Like making some dumb ass statement like the Japanese government was going to begin to cap the reactor in the next three hours? Clearly there has been one side of this discussion that has been continuously way off the mark.
I know you and Dennis_6 will always be Nuke power haters. I just have a huge issue with the misinformation that has been tried to be spread to OTHERS via these threads.
If you two don't like the fact that I call your statements wacko - then don't make wacko statements. Learn the difference between plutonium and polonium. Just because they are both radioactive, and the spelling looks similar doesn't make them similar. You now know what containment is and that it makes a huge difference in the safety of a nuclear reactor accident. It's clear that someone had no idea before. You learned that Chernobyl didn't melt down, it exploded and burned. You learned Chernobyl was a poorly designed unstable Russian graphite reactor. You learned that there was no way they were going to start pouring concrete on the hot reactor on day 3.
When YOU two use tactics like going back months and dredging up old discussions and then re-posting them, YOU will be doing nothing but getting these threads locked - which btw, would be just fine with me.
WHEN YOUR SOURCE USES WORDS LIKE 'IT APPEARS' FOR YOU TO REPEAT THAT STATEMENT OMITTING THE WORDS CHANGES THE MEANING OF THE SENTENCE AND MAKES YOUR STATEMENTING INCORRECT.
In the future do some thinking (research) before posting some wacko statement and you guys won't look quite so foolish.
Classic conservative name calling and semantic attacks. Too bad, you seem so smart in Tech...
Edit to add:
BTW, dipshite, I know the difference between polonium and plutonium...
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01:56 PM
dennis_6 Member
Posts: 7196 From: between here and there Registered: Aug 2001
Like making some dumb ass statement like the Japanese government was going to begin to cap the reactor in the next three hours? Clearly there has been one side of this discussion that has been continuously way off the mark.
I know you and Dennis_6 will always be Nuke power haters. I just have a huge issue with the misinformation that has been tried to be spread to OTHERS via these threads.
If you two don't like the fact that I call your statements wacko - then don't make wacko statements. Learn the difference between plutonium and polonium. Just because they are both radioactive, and the spelling looks similar doesn't make them similar. You now know what containment is and that it makes a huge difference in the safety of a nuclear reactor accident. It's clear that someone had no idea before. You learned that Chernobyl didn't melt down, it exploded and burned. You learned Chernobyl was a poorly designed unstable Russian graphite reactor. You learned that there was no way they were going to start pouring concrete on the hot reactor on day 3.
When YOU two use tactics like going back months and dredging up old discussions and then re-posting them, YOU will be doing nothing but getting these threads locked - which btw, would be just fine with me.
WHEN YOUR SOURCE USES WORDS LIKE 'IT APPEARS' FOR YOU TO REPEAT THAT STATEMENT OMITTING THE WORDS CHANGES THE MEANING OF THE SENTENCE AND MAKES YOUR STATEMENTING INCORRECT.
In the future do some thinking (research) before posting some wacko statement and you guys won't look quite so foolish.
Thats funny, because the media said Japan was going to cap the reactors, I wonder where they got that info from? Certainly not from me. Maybe from the industry your trying to protect, even though they constantly lie? I also love how you jump on every technicality, grammar mistake, or spelling mistake to attack. It doesn't matter that even though you have been trying your best to downplay the whole incident and have been wrong about it being a minor incident the entire time. FYI, I knew how the Soviets constructed their reactors. Chernobyl is old news. I was arguing that what wasn't blown out of the reactor melted. That is fact. You were stating Chernobyl couldn't happen in Japan because of the lack of a graphite reactor and Fukushima having containment. If you had dropped the insults and listened to what I was saying, you would have understood I was talking about the rods melting and escaping all containment. At that point it would be as bad as a disaster as chernobyl. Japanese scientist are now speculating that may have happened.
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04:49 PM
phonedawgz Member
Posts: 17091 From: Green Bay, WI USA Registered: Dec 2009
No one in the nuclear industry would have said anything as stupid as "Japanese government considering beginning capping one reactor in next three hours."
Anyone who EVER worked in the nuclear industry would have known that line for the bull **** that it was and would not have been stupid enough to give it any credibility, much less repeat is.
It didn't come from the industry. It can from some wacko. And it was repeated by wackos. And it was even believed by some wackos.
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Oct 19th, 2011
phonedawgz Member
Posts: 17091 From: Green Bay, WI USA Registered: Dec 2009
