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Japan's nuke problems--what's happening?--conflicting reports. by maryjane
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Damn you are an idiot dennis_6

I reposted the entire previous post to show you that we had talked about the containment being breached. I did not repost it to re-hash the points I had made earlier.

So as you can see, yes I talked about the fact that containment had been breached. Your new posting stating that this guy thinks containment was breached is not news.

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And again - Nothing is molten anymore.

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Damn you are an idiot dennis_6

I reposted the entire previous post to show you that we had talked about the containment being breached. I did not repost it to re-hash the points I had made earlier.

So as you can see, yes I talked about the fact that containment had been breached. Your new posting stating that this guy thinks containment was breached is not news.

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And again - Nothing is molten anymore.


See article about, cold shut down not achieved. I really don't know if you are getting checks, or are just a zealot. Yes, I like nuclear power too, but you are defending a version of that, that is no better than corporate sweat shops in India. Nuclear is the future, just not the way it is being run now. Seriously, why do you distort the facts? Sooner or later everyone will hear on NBC, that Fukushima is not under control, and the damage to Japan is dire.
Why do you try to lie for the industry? Do you support nuclear power, or just the current monopoly on it?

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So you are trying to now make an argument that what remains of the fuel rods is still molten?

Is that what you are trying to put forth? (now that you see the fact that we already discussed that containment was breached)

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So you are trying to now make an argument that what remains of the fuel rods is still molten?

Is that what you are trying to put forth? (now that you see the fact that we already discussed that containment was breached)



Putting words in my mouth again? Tepco's workers are saying that cold shutdown is still not achieved despite, the "official" story.
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No dennis_6. Asking you to clarify your position is not me putting words in your mouth. It is the opposite of me putting words in your mouth. It is asking YOU to put your own words in YOUR mouth.

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So are you trying to argue that the fuel is still molten, or are you saying you think the fuel is no longer molten?

Or perhaps you will again side step the direct question.

 
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Putting words in my mouth again? Tepco's workers are saying that cold shutdown is still not achieved despite, the "official" story.

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Chernobyl tragedy: the last "gift" from the Soviet regime
Tags: Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant , Russia, Commentary, World, Chernobyl, Society
Dmitry Konchalovsky

Apr 26, 2012 14:29 Moscow Time
Chernobyl tragedy: the last 'gift' from the Soviet regime
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Exactly 26 years ago there was an explosion at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. Whole regions in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus have become unfit for life, and the number of victims has reached one million people today. And experts are still disputing about long-term consequences of the disaster.

During the seventy years of its existence the Soviet regime "presented" the rest of the mankind with a lot of problems namely the spread of the "red plague" throughout the world, including China, Vietnam and some countries of Africa and Latin America; and occupation of half of Europe alongside with planting socialist principles on these territories with the help of bayonets and tanks; and the invasion of Afghanistan for the purpose of promoting its "dogma" in the southern direction.

All these movements have cost the world enormous human, financial and moral losses.

And yet all these "gifts" were of an archaic nature, as if from the depths of centuries, when the defeat of an enemy was achieved through the seizure of his territory, or through the victory of your ideology (or religion). Therefore, the consequences of such actions were, first of all, finite, and, secondly, reparable. Meanwhile the Chernobyl catastrophe is an event of a different kind, if we regard it as a "gift" to the mankind from a decrepit regime.

First of all, two seemingly incompatible factors have joined each other: scientific-technical progress and intellectual helplessness. That is, the Chernobyl NPP (like dozens of others) was successfully built, but its safe operation turned out to be a daunting task for the sluggish Soviet bureaucratic system.

Secondly, it turned out that the habit of classifying the whole lot as secret for the sake of the country’s prestige can cause irreparable damage even without malicious intent.

I would like to remind you that the Soviet party leadership was concealing the information about the explosion throughout the whole week. As a result tens of thousands of unsuspecting people came out on May-Day demonstrations in Kiev, Minsk, Bryansk, and many other cities, exposing themselves to the risk of getting a serious dose of radiation.

In the absence of truthful information vague rumors caused an unprecedented panic; salt and matches were sold out in a flash, and the South-Western direction railway line came in a state of collapse because of the enormous number of refugees.

And, finally, the third distinguishing feature of the last "gift" of the Soviet regime is the fact that its consequences are endless and uncontrollable, and it is impossible to count the exact number of victims. Scientists are still arguing if the number of one million deaths is valid, but when such big numbers are taken into account, the one thing is absolutely clear - things are in a bad way. Besides, no one can count how many babies could not be born, and on the lives of how many subsequent generations this disaster will tell in the form of cancer.


It is also worth mentioning that, if on April 26, 26 years ago the wind in the Chernobyl area was a little stronger, then, depending on its direction, today either Moscow, or Scandinavia, or the Western Europe would be a desert.

A quarter of a century after the Chernobyl tragedy, an accident occurred in the Japanese Fukushima. This event caused a temptation to draw a parallel, the basic meaning of which is simple – such things happen not only in our country. From the formal point of view, it is true, but there are a few circumstances that make such a comparison incorrect.

The Fukushima reactor was damaged as a result of a terrible natural disaster; it did not explode because of the negligence and carelessness of those who were obliged to prevent it.

The Chernobyl accident has long been veiled in strict secrecy. Meanwhile the Fukushima events were literally happening in a live broadcast, which made it possible to mobilize not only the Japanese, but all the world’s forces and means on their localization and to prevent unnecessary losses.

And, finally, a difference in the government’s attitude to those who liquidated the consequences of the two accidents at the cost of their health is obvious.

Nevertheless serious differences between these disasters occurring with the difference of twenty-five years cannot serve as a consolation. Fukushima showed that Chernobyl has not served as a lesson to mankind - the nuclear energetic continues to develop, threatening the world with new troubles. Global security is sacrificed for the sake of efficiency, low prices and profit.

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_04_26/73023009/
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I'm still waiting for you to answer this one dennis_6

 
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No dennis_6. Asking you to clarify your position is not me putting words in your mouth. It is the opposite of me putting words in your mouth. It is asking YOU to put your own words in YOUR mouth.

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So are you trying to argue that the fuel is still molten, or are you saying you think the fuel is no longer molten?

Or perhaps you will again side step the direct question.




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I'm still waiting for you to answer this one dennis_6



Tepco can not tell you precisely where the fuel is. They can't tell you the state it is in. How am I supposed to know, I don't. You, don't either. Nobody, has been able to see it, as of yet. So anything you claim, or I claim about the fuel, or even TEPCO's claims, is nothing more than speculation. That said, water levels were far lower than expected, and the endoscope did not find the fuel.
Now, your turn. How many victims of Chernobyl again?
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Everyone on the sane side, and even the semi-educated wackos agree the fuel has not been molten beyond the first week(s) of the crisis. You loose credibility by ranting again and again that you think the fuel is still molten.

The 'proof' of this is in the amount of heat released into the water. And the temperature of the water exiting the reactors continues to drop. This is seen in all three damaged reactors. The drop in temperatures is as expected. To ignore this and pretend otherwise only shows your pre-determined mindset.

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This latest author you have came up with casually puts out an unsubstantiated number that 5 times even the highest number the wackos have put put before. I give him no credibility. Somehow you think it is your job to dredge up what some crazy who is spouting out some new multiplier in the number of deaths at Chernobyl deaths.

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Health Impacts

Chernobyl Accident Appendix 2

(Updated November 2009)

The health effects of the Chernobyl accident have been the subject of unprecedented study by health professionals and unprecedented speculation and exaggeration by parts of the media. This Appendix summarises the following authoritative and expert assessments of the situation:

The 2006 report of the World Health Organization (WHO), Health Effects of the Chernobyl Accident and Special Health Care Programmesa.
Exposures and effects of the Chernobyl accident, Annex J of the 2000 Report of the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation to the General Assemblyb.
Estimated Long Term Health Effects of the Chernobyl Accident, Background Paper 3 of the April 1996 conference in Vienna, One Decade After Chernobylc.
Lessons of Chernobyl - with particular reference to thyroid cancer by Zbigniew Jaworowski, former chairman of the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiationd.
Number of deaths

Apart from the initial 31 deaths (two from the explosions, one reportedly from coronary thrombosis (heart attack), and 28 firemen and plant personnel from acute radiation syndrome), the number of deaths resulting from the accident is unclear and a subject of considerable controversy. According to the 2006 report of the UN Chernobyl Forum's 'Health' Expert Group1: "The actual number of deaths caused by this accident is unlikely ever to be precisely known."

On the number of deaths due to acute radiation syndrome (ARS), the Expert Group report states: "Among the 134 emergency workers involved in the immediate mitigation of the Chernobyl accident, severely exposed workers and fireman during the first days, 28 persons died in 1986 due to ARS, and 19 more persons died in 1987-2004 from different causes. Among the general population affected by the Chernobyl radioactive fallout, the much lower exposures meant that ARS cases did not occur.

Studies have been carried out to estimate the number of other fatalities amongst the emergency workers as well as the population of the contaminated areas.

Regarding the emergency workers with doses lower than those causing ARS symptoms, the Expert Group report referred to studies carried out on 61,000 emergency Russian workers where a total of 4995 deaths from this group were recorded during 1991-1998. "The number of deaths in Russian emergency workers attributable to radiation caused by solid neoplasms and circulatory system diseases can be estimated to be about 116 and 100 cases respectively." Furthermore, "the number of leukaemia cases attributable to radiation in this cohort can be estimated to be about 30." Thus, 4.6% of the number of deaths in this group are attributable to radiation-induced diseases. (The estimated average external dose for this group was 107 mSv.) From this study, it could be possible to arrive at an estimate of the mortality rate attributable to Chernobyl radiation for the rest of the Russian emergency workers (192,000 persons), as well as for the Belarusian and Ukrainian emergency workers (74,000 and 291,000 persons, respectively). Such estimates, however, have not yet been made and would depend on several assumptions, including that the age, gender and dose distributions are similar in these groups.

The picture is even more unclear for the populations of the areas affected by the Chernobyl fallout. However, the report does link the accident to an increase in thyroid cancer in children: "During 1992-2000, in Belarus, Russia and Ukraine, about 4000 cases of thyroid cancer were diagnosed in children and adolescents (0–18 years), of which about 3000 occurred in the age group of 0–14 years. For 1152 thyroid cancer patient cases diagnosed among Chernobyl children in Belarus during 1986-2002, the survival rate is 98.8%. Eight patients died due to progression of their thyroid cancer and six children died from other causes. One patient with thyroid cancer died in Russia." It is from this that several reports give a figure of around nine thyroid cancer deaths resulting from the accident. It should also be noted that other statistics quoted in the Expert Group report give the total number of thyroid cancer cases among those exposed under the age of 18 as over 4800, though this does not affect the general point that "a large proportion of the thyroid cancer fatalities can be attributed to radiation."

Regarding other effects, the Expert Group report states: "There is little peer-reviewed scientific evidence showing an increase above the spontaneous levels from cancer, leukaemia, or non-cancer mortality in populations of the areas affected by the Chernobyl fallout." It does point out a study that reports an annual death rate of 18.5 per 1000 persons for the population living in Ukrainian areas contaminated with radionuclides, compared with 16.5 per 1000 for the 50 million population of Ukraine. "The reason for the difference is not clear, and without specific knowledge of the age and sex distributions of the two populations, no conclusion can be drawn."

Current risk models are derived from studies of atomic bomb survivors, without adjustments for the protracted dose rates or allowances for differing background cancer incidence rates and demographics in the Chernobyl exposed populations. Based on these models, "a radiation related increase of total cancer morbidity and mortality above the spontaneous level by about 1-1.5% for the whole district and by about 4-6% in its most contaminated villages" can be estimated. The report continues: "The predicted lifetime excess cancer and leukaemia deaths for 200,000 liquidators, 135,000 evacuees from the 30 km zone, 270,000 residents of the SCZs ['strict control zones'] were 2200 for liquidators, 160 for evacuees, and 1600 among residents of the SCZs. This total, about 4000 deaths projected over the lifetimes of the some 600,000 persons most affected by the accident, is a small proportion of the total cancer deaths from all causes that can be expected to occur in this population. It must be stressed that this estimate is bounded by large uncertainties."

Beyond this, "for the further population of more than 6,000,000 persons in other contaminated areas, the projected number of deaths was about 5000. This latter estimate is particularly uncertain, as it is based on an average dose of just 7 mSv, which differs very little from natural background radiation levels." There is good reason to be sceptical of such a projection on the basis of the known or assumed doses.

The report emphasises that considerable uncertainty surrounds such projections. "Because of the uncertainty of epidemiological model parameters, predictions of future mortality or morbidity based on the recent post-Chernobyl studies should be made with special caution. Significant non-radiation related reduction in the average lifespan in the three countries over the past 15 years remains a significant impediment to detecting any effect of radiation on both general and cancer morbidity and mortality."

Exposures and Effects of the Chernobyl Accident

The conclusions of the Annex J report by the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR) are reproduced here. The full report is available from UNSCEAR2.

Conclusions

402. The accident of 26 April 1986 at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant, located in Ukraine about 20 km south of the border with Belarus, was the most serious ever to have occurred in the nuclear industry. It caused the deaths, within a few days or weeks, of 30 power plant employees and firemen (including 28 with acute radiation syndrome) and brought about the evacuation, in 1986, of about 116,000 people from areas surrounding the reactor and the relocation, after 1986, of about 220,000 people from Belarus, the Russian Federation and Ukraine. Vast territories of those three countries (at that time republics of the Soviet Union) were contaminated, and trace deposition of released radionuclides was measurable in all countries of the northern hemisphere. In this Annex, the radiation exposures of the population groups most closely involved in the accident have been reviewed in detail and the health consequences that are or could be associated with these radiation exposures have been considered.

403. The populations considered in this Annex are (a) the workers involved in the mitigation of the accident, either during the accident itself (emergency workers) or after the accident (recovery operation workers) and (b) members of the general public who either were evacuated to avert excessive radiation exposures or who still reside in contaminated areas. The contaminated areas, which are defined in this Annex as being those where the average 137Cs ground deposition density exceeded 37 kBq m-2 (1 Ci km-2), are found mainly in Belarus, in the Russian Federation and in Ukraine. A large number of radiation measurements (film badges, TLDs, whole-body counts, thyroid counts, etc.) were made to evaluate the exposures of the population groups that are considered.

404. The approximately 600 emergency workers who were on the site of the Chernobyl power plant during the night of the accident received the highest doses. The most important exposures were due to external irradiation (relatively uniform whole-body gamma irradiation and beta irradiation of extensive body surfaces), as the intake of radionuclides through inhalation was relatively small (except in two cases). Acute radiation sickness was confirmed in 134 of those emergency workers. Forty-one of these patients received whole-body doses from external irradiation of less than 2.1 Gy. Ninety-three patients received higher doses and had more severe acute radiation sickness: 50 persons with doses between 2.2 and 4.1 Gy, 22 between 4.2 and 6.4 Gy, and 21 between 6.5 and 16 Gy. The skin doses from beta exposures, evaluated for eight patients with acute radiation sickness, were in the range of 400-500 Gy.

405. About 600,000 persons (civilian and military) have received special certificates confirming their status as liquidators (recovery operation workers), according to laws promulgated in Belarus, the Russian Federation and Ukraine. Of those, about 240,000 were military servicemen. The principal tasks carried out by the recovery operation workers included decontamination of the reactor block, reactor site and roads, as well as construction of the sarcophagus and of a town for reactor personnel. These tasks were completed by 1990.

406. A registry of recovery operation workers was established in 1986. This registry includes estimates of effective doses from external irradiation, which was the predominant pathway of exposure for the recovery operation workers. The registry data show that the average recorded doses decreased from year to year, being about 170 mSv in 1986, 130 mSv in 1987, 30 mSv in 1988, and 15 mSv in 1989. It is, however, difficult to assess the validity of the results that have been reported because (a) different dosimeters were used by different organizations without any intercalibration; (b) a large number of recorded doses were very close to the dose limit; and (c) there were a large number of rounded values such as 0.1, 0.2, or 0.5 Sv. Nevertheless, it seems reasonable to assume that the average effective dose from external gamma irradiation to recovery operation workers in the years 1986-1987 was about 100 mSv.

407. Doses received by the general public came from the radionuclide releases from the damaged reactor, which led to the ground contamination of large areas. The radionuclide releases occurred mainly over a 10-day period, with varying release rates. From the radiological point of view, the releases of 1311 and 137Cs, estimated to have been 1,760 and 85 PBq, respectively, are the most important. lodine-131 was the main contributor to the thyroid doses, received mainly via internal irradiation within a few weeks after the accident, while 137Cs was, and is, the main contributor to the doses to organs and tissues other than the thyroid, from either internal or external irradiation, which will continue to be received, at low dose rates, during several decades.

408. The three main contaminated areas, defined as those with 137Cs deposition density greater than 37 kBq m-2 (1 Ci km-2), are in Belarus, the Russian Federation and Ukraine; they have been designated the Central, Gomel-Mogilev-Bryansk and Kaluga-Tula-Orel areas. The Central area is within about 100 km of the reactor, predominantly to the west and northwest. The Gomel-Mogilev-Bryansk contaminated area is centred 200 km north-northeast of the reactor at the boundary of the Gomel and Mogilev regions of Belarus and of the Bryansk region of the Russian Federation. The Kaluga-Tula-Orel area is in the Russian Federation, about 500 km to the northeast of the reactor. All together, territories from the former Soviet Union with an area of about 150,000 km2 were contaminated with 137Cs deposition density greater than 37 kBq m-2. About five million people reside in those territories.

409. Within a few weeks after the accident, more than 100,000 persons were evacuated from the most contaminated areas of Ukraine and of Belarus. The thyroid doses received by the evacuees varied according to their age, place of residence, dietary habits and date of evacuation. For example, for the residents of Pripyat, who were evacuated essentially within 48 hours after the accident, the population-weighted average thyroid dose is estimated to be 0.17 Gy and to range from 0.07 Gy for adults to 2 Gy for infants. For the entire population of evacuees, the population-weighted average thyroid dose is estimated to be 0.47 Gy. Doses to organs and tissues other than the thyroid were, on average, much smaller.

410. Thyroid doses also have been estimated for the residents of the contaminated areas who were not evacuated. In each of the three republics, thyroid doses are estimated to have exceeded 1 Gy for the most exposed infants. For residents of a given locality, thyroid doses to adults were smaller than those to infants by a factor of about 10. The average thyroid dose was approximately 0.2 Gy; the variability of the thyroid dose was two orders of magnitude, both above and below the average.

411. Following the first few weeks after the accident, when 131I was the main contributor to the radiation exposures, doses were delivered at much lower dose rates by radionuclides with much longer half-lives. Since 1987, the doses received by the populations of the contaminated areas came essentially from external exposure from 134Cs and 137Cs deposited on the ground and internal exposure due to the contamination of foodstuffs by 134Cs and 137Cs. Other, usually minor, contributions to the long-term radiation exposures include the consumption of foodstuffs contaminated with 9OSr and the inhalation of aerosols containing plutonium isotopes. Both external irradiation and internal irradiation due to 134Cs and 137Cs result in relatively uniform doses in all organs and tissues of the body. The average effective doses from 134Cs and 137Cs that were received during the first 10 years after the accident by the residents of contaminated areas are estimated to be about 10 mSv.

412. The papers available for review by the Committee to date regarding the evaluation of health effects of the Chernobyl accident have in many instances suffered from methodological weaknesses that make them difficult to interpret. The weaknesses include inadequate diagnoses and classification of diseases, selection of inadequate control or reference groups (in particular, control groups with a different level of disease ascertainment than the exposed groups), inadequate estimation of radiation doses or lack of individual data and failure to take screening and increased medical surveillance into consideration. The interpretation of the studies is complicated, and particular attention must be paid to the design and performance of epidemiological studies. These issues are discussed in more detail in Annex I, " Epidemiological evaluation of radiation-induced cancer".

413. Apart from the substantial increase in thyroid cancer after childhood exposure observed in Belarus, in the Russian Federation and in Ukraine, there is no evidence of a major public health impact related to ionizing radiation 14 years after the Chernobyl accident. No increases in overall cancer incidence or mortality that could be associated with radiation exposure have been observed. For some cancers no increase would have been anticipated as yet, given the latency period of around 10 years for solid tumours. The risk of leukaemia, one of the most sensitive indicators of radiation exposure, has not been found to be elevated even in the accident recovery operation workers or in children. There is no scientific proof of an increase in other non-malignant disorders related to ionizing radiation.

414. The large number of thyroid cancers in individuals exposed in childhood, particularly in the severely contaminated areas of the three affected countries, and the short induction period are considerably different from previous experience in other accidents or exposure situations. Other factors, e.g. iodine deficiency and screening, are almost certainly influencing the risk. Few studies have addressed these problems, but those that have still find a significant influence of radiation after taking confounding influences into consideration. The most recent findings indicate that the thyroid cancer risk for those older than 10 years at the time of the accident is leveling off, the risk seems to decrease since 1995 for those 5-9 years old at the time of the accident, while the increase continues for those younger than 5 years in 1986.

415. There is a tendency to attribute increases in cancer rates (other than thyroid) over time to the Chernobyl accident, but it should be noted that increases were also observed before the accident in the affected areas. More- over, a general increase in mortality has been reported in recent years in most areas of the former USSR, and this must also be taken into account in interpreting the results of the Chernobyl-related studies. Because of these and other uncertainties, there is a need for well designed, sound analytical studies, especially of recovery operation workers from Belarus, the Russian Federation, Ukraine and the Baltic countries, in which particular attention is given to individual dose reconstruction and the effect of screening and other possible confounding factors.

416. Increases of a number of non-specific detrimental health effects other than cancer in accident recovery workers have been reported, e.g. increased suicide rates and deaths due to violent causes. It is difficult to interpret these findings without reference to a known baseline or background incidence. The exposed populations undergo much more intensive and active health follow-up than the general population. As a result, using the general population as a comparison group, as has been done so far in most studies, is inadequate.

417. Adding iodine to the diet of populations living in iodine-deficient areas and screening the high-risk groups could limit the radiological consequences. Most data suggest that the youngest age group, i.e. those who were less than five years old at the time of the accident, continues to have an increased risk of developing thyroid cancer and should be closely monitored. In spite of the fact that many thyroid cancers in childhood are presented at a more advanced stage in terms of local aggressiveness and distant metastases than in adulthood, they have a good prognosis. Continued follow-up is necessary to allow planning of public health actions, to gain a better understanding of influencing factors, to predict the outcomes of any future accidents, and to ensure adequate radiation protection measures.

418. Present knowledge of the late effects of protracted exposure to ionizing radiation is limited, since the dose- response assessments rely heavily on high-dose exposure studies and animal experiments. The Chernobyl accident could, however, shed light on the late effects of protracted exposure, but given the low doses received by the majority of exposed individuals, albeit with uncertainties in the dose estimates, any increase in cancer incidence or mortality will most certainly be difficult to detect in epidemiological studies. The main goal is to differentiate the effects of the ionizing radiation and effects that arise from many other causes in exposed populations.

419. Apart from the radiation-associated thyroid cancers among those exposed in childhood, the only group that received doses high enough to possibly incur statistically detectable increased risks is the recovery operation workers. Studies of these populations have the potential to contribute to the scientific knowledge of the late effects of ionizing radiation. Many of these individuals receive annual medical examinations, providing a sound basis for future studies of the cohort. It is, however, notable that no increased risk of leukaemia, an entity known to appear within 2- 3 years after exposure, has been identified more than 10 years after the accident.

420. The future challenge is to provide reliable individual dose estimates for the subjects enrolled in epidemiological studies and to evaluate the effects of doses accumulated over protracted time (days to weeks for thyroid exposures of children, minutes to months for bone-marrow exposures of emergency and recovery operation workers, and months to years for whole-body exposures of those living in contaminated areas). In doing this, many difficulties must be taken into consideration, such as (a) the role played by different radionuclides, especially the short-lived radioiodines; (b) the accuracy of direct thyroid measurements; (c) the relationship between ground contamination and thyroid doses; and (d) the reliability of the recorded or reconstructed doses for the emergency and recovery operation workers.

421. Finally, it should be emphasized that although those exposed as children and the emergency and recovery operation workers are at increased risk of radiation- induced effects, the vast majority of the population need not live in fear of serious health consequences from the Chernobyl accident. For the most part, they were exposed to radiation levels comparable to or a few times higher than the natural background levels, and future exposures are diminishing as the deposited radionuclides decay. Lives have been disrupted by the Chernobyl accident, but from the radiological point of view and based on the assessments of this Annex, generally positive prospects for the future health of most individuals should prevail.

Estimated Long Term Health Effects of the Chernobyl Accident

Background Paper 3 from the One Decade after Chernobyl - Summing up the Consequences of the Accident conference held in Vienna in April 1996 attempted to estimate the total lifetime numbers of excess cancers in those exposed to radiation due to the Chernobyl accident. The paper was cited in the above-mentioned 2006 report of the UN Chernobyl Forum's 'Health' Expert Group, which stated: "This assessment involved direct application of available risk factors, derived mainly from the atomic-bomb survivor study, without adjustments for the protracted dose rates or allowances for differing background cancer incidence rates and demographics in the Chernobyl exposed populations. Such estimates are thus intended to be order-of-magnitude or rough scoping estimates to be used for public health planning rather than as an accurate projection of actual cases." The abstract is reproduced below and the full paper is in the One Decade after Chernobyl conference proceedings, available from the IAEA3.

Abstract

Principal author: Elizabeth Cardis, International Agency for Research on Cancer, Lyon, France

Apart from the dramatic increase in thyroid cancer in those exposed as children, there is no evidence to date (1996) of a major public health impact as a result of radiation exposure due to the Chernobyl accident in the three most affected countries (Belarus, Russia and Ukraine).

Although some increases in the frequency of cancer in exposed populations have been reported, these results are difficult to interpret, mainly because of differences in the intensity and method of follow-up between exposed populations and the general population with which they are compared. If the experience of the survivors of the atomic bombing of Japan and of other exposed populations is applicable, the major radiological impact of the accident will be cases of cancer. The total lifetime numbers of excess cancers will be greatest among the 'liquidators' (emergency and recovery workers) and among the residents of 'contaminated' territories, of the order of 2000 to 4600 among each group (the size of the exposed populations is 200,000 liquidators and 6,800,000 residents of 'contaminated' areas). These increases would be difficult to detect epidemiologically against an expected background number of 41,500 and 800,000 cases of cancer respectively among the two groups.

However, the exposures for populations due to the Chernobyl accident are different (in type and pattern) from those of the survivors of the atomic bombing of Japan (and doses received early after the accident are not well known). Predictions derived from studies of these populations are therefore uncertain. Indeed, although an increase in the incidence of thyroid cancer in persons exposed as children as a result of the Chernobyl accident was envisaged, the extent of the increase was not foreseen.

Only ten years have passed since the accident. It is essential, therefore, that monitoring of the health of the population be continued in order to assess the public health impact of the accident, even if any increase in the incidence of cancers as a result of radiation exposure due to the Chernobyl accident, except for leukaemia among liquidators and thyroid cancer, is expected to be difficult to detect. Studies of selected populations and diseases are also needed in order to study observed or predicted effects; careful studies may in particular provide important information on the effect of exposure rate and exposure type in the low to medium dose range and on factors which may modify radiation effects. As such, they may have important consequences for the radiation protection of patients and the general population in the event of any future accidental exposure.

Lessons of Chernobyl - with particular reference to thyroid cancer

By Zbigniew Jaworowski, Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection - CLOR, Warsaw, Poland

The Chernobyl catastrophe was a dramatic personal experience for me - a difficult exam, which I am not sure that I passed. For many people engaged in radiological protection, though not all, it was a watershed that changed their view on the paradigm on which the present safety regulations are based, the holy mantra of LNT - the linear no-threshold assumption, according to which even the lowest, near-zero doses of radiation may cause cancer and genetic harm. For everybody it might serve as a yardstick for comparison of radiation risks from natural and man-made sources. It also sheds light on how easily the global community may leave the realm of rationality when facing an imaginary emergency.

The LNT assumption is in direct contradiction to a vast sea of data on the beneficial effects of low doses of radiation. When in 1980, as a chairman of the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR), I tried to convince its members that we should not ignore but rather peruse and assess these data, published in the scientific literature since the end of 19th century, everybody in the Committee was against it. In each of the next seven years I repeated the proposal, to no avail. Finally, the accident at Chernobyl appeared to be an eye opener: two years after the accident, in 1988, the Committee saw the light and decided to study radiation hormesis, i.e. the adaptive and beneficial effects of low levels of radiation. Six years of the Committee's work and hot discussions later, Annex B "Adaptive responses to radiation in cells and organisms" appeared in the UNSCEAR 1994 Report, fourteen years after my original proposal. The Annex started a virtual revolution in research related to radiation protection but, because of many vested interests and conservatism to change the international and national regulations, there is still a long way to go.

The LNT/hormesis controversy is not limited to radiation. It poses questions for practically all noxious physical, chemical and biological agents which we meet in life [1]. Ionizing radiation was discovered rather lately - at the end of the 19th century - but, like these other agents, it has been with us since time immemorial.

The Chernobyl accident was a radiation event unique in human history, but not in the history of the biosphere. There is evidence of a number of episodes of greater radiation levels during the evolution of life on earth, e.g. due to supernovae. In terms of human losses it was a minor event as compared with many other man-made catastrophes but, in political, economic, social and psychological terms, its impact was enormous. Let's have a look at what happened.

About 9 a.m. on Monday 28 April 1986 at the entrance of CLOR in Warsaw I was greeted by my assistant with a statement: "Look, at 7:00 we received a telex from Mikolajki monitoring station saying that the radioactivity of air is there 550 000 times higher than a day before. A similar increase I found in the air filter from our station in the backyard, and the pavement in front of the institute is highly radioactive". Soon, to our relief, we found that the isotopic composition of radioactive dust was not from a nuclear explosion, but rather from a nuclear reactor. Reports inflowing successively from our 140 monitoring stations suggested that a radioactive cloud over Poland traveled westwards and that it arrived from the Soviet Union, but it was only about 6 p.m. that we learned from BBC radio that its source was in Chernobyl.

This was a terrible psychological shock. The air over the whole country was filled with the radioactive material, at levels hundreds of thousands times higher than anything we experienced in the past, even in 1963 - a record year for fallout from nuclear test explosions. It is curious that all my attention was concentrated on this enormous increase in air radioactivity, although I knew that on this first day of "Chernobyl in Poland", the dose rate of external radiation penetrating our bodies reached 30 µR per hour, or 2.6 mSv per year, i.e. only by a factor of 3 higher than a day before. This dose rate was four times lower than I would experience visiting places in Norway, where the natural external radiation (up to 11.3 mSv/year) from the rocks is higher than over the Central European plane. It was also some 100 times lower than in an Iranian resort Ramsar, where the annual dose reaches about 250 mSv per year, or more than 300 times lower than at the Brazilian beaches (790 mSv per year) or in South-West France (up to 870 mSv per year). No adverse health effects have ever been reported among the people living in these areas with high natural background radiation.

But, in 1986, the impact of a dramatic increase in atmospheric radioactivity dominated the thinking of myself and of everybody. This state of mind led to immediate serious consequences in Poland, in the Soviet Union, throughout the Europe, and later all over the globe. First, there were different hectic actions, such as ad hoc coining of different principles and emergency countermeasures, the sense and quality of which lagged far behind the excellent measuring techniques and monitoring systems. An example of this was the radionuclide concentration limits (derived intervention levels) implemented a few days after the accident by various countries and international organizations, which varied by a factor of up to 50,000. The base of some of these limits was not scientific, but reflected the emotional state of the decision makers, and also political and mercantile factors. For example, Sweden allowed for 30 times more activity in imported vegetables than in the domestic ones, and Israel imposed lower limits for radioactivity in food imported from Eastern than from Western Europe. The limit of cesium-137 concentration in meat of 6 Bq/kg was accepted in the Philippines and 6000 Bq/kg in Norway.

The monetary costs of such restrictions were estimated in Norway. At first, the cesium-137 limit for meat was accepted there as 600 Bq/kg, which from a health physics point of view is meaningless, as consumption of 1 kg of such a meat would correspond to a dose of 0.0078 mSv. If somebody would eat 0.25 kg of this meat each day for 1 year the internal radiation dose would reach 0.7 mSv. This limit was often surpassed in mutton, and the farmers received compensation for destroying the meat, and for special fodder they were forced to feed the sheep for months before slaughtering. Such a low limit could have destroyed the living of Lapps whose economy depends on reindeer, an animal having a special food chain based on lichens. Due to this chain the reindeer meat contained in 1986 high concentrations of cesium-137, reaching up to 40,000 Bq/kg. In November 1986, Norwegian authorities introduced a limit of 6000 Bq/kg of reindeer meat and game. Ordinary Norwegian diet includes only about 0.6 kg of reindeer meat per year, thus this limit was aimed to protect Norwegians against a radiation dose of 0.047 mSv/year. In 1994, the costs of this "protection" were evaluated: they reached over $51 million.

Sweden was not better. When the farmers near Stockholm discovered that the Chernobyl accident contaminated the milk of their cows with cesium-137 above the limit of 300 Bq per liter imposed by Swedish authorities, they wrote to them and asked if their milk could not be diluted with uncontaminated milk from other regions, until the limit were attained, for instance by mixing 1 liter of contaminated milk with 10 liters of clean milk. To the farmers' surprise the answer was "no", and the milk was to be discarded. This was strange, as it always was possible to do so for other pollutants in foodstuffs, and we also dilute the fumes from fireplaces or ovens with the atmospheric air. Authorities explained that even though one could reduce the individual risk by diluting the milk, at the same time, one would increase the number of consumers, and thus the risk would remain the same, although now spread over a larger population [3]. This was a dogmatic application of the LNT assumption, and of its offspring, the concept of "collective dose" (i.e. reaching terrifyingly great numbers of "man-sieverts", by multiplying tiny innocuous individual radiation doses by large number of exposed people). I believe that, in an earlier paper, I demonstrated clearly the lack of sense and negative consequences both of the LNT assumption and of the population dose concept [4]. Their dogmatic application may quite probably have caused the costs of the Chernobyl accident to exceed $100 billion in Western Europe [5].

The most nonsensical action, however, was the evacuation of 336 000 people from the regions of the former Soviet Union, where during the years 1986 - 1995 the Chernobyl fallout increased the average natural radiation dose (about 2.5 mSv per year) by 0.8 to 1.4 mSv per year, i.e. by about 30% to 50% [6]. The evacuation was based on radiation limits recommended by the International Commission for Radiological Protection (ICRP) for "the event of major radiation accidents" and on recommendations for protection of the general population, which were tens to hundreds of times lower than natural doses in many countries. In the asphalt paved streets of the "ghost town" of Pripyat, from which about 50 000 people were relocated, and where nobody can enter without special permission, the total external gamma dose rate measured by a Polish team in May 2001 was 0.9 mSv per year, i.e. the same as in Warsaw, and five times lower than at the Grand Central Station in New York. The evacuation led to development of mass psychosomatic disturbances, great economical losses, and traumatic social consequences. Obviously, ICRP will never accept responsibility for the disastrous effects of this dogmatic application of its armchair lucubrations which has caused the present system of "radiation protection [to] become a health hazard"[3].

In Poland, to save the population from effects of exposure to iodine-131, the government, upon my instigation, administered during three days a single dose of stable iodine to about 18.5 million people, the greatest prophylactic action in the history of medicine performed in so short a time. My medical colleagues and the Ministry of Health were rightly proud of the ingenious and innovative way they implemented this countermeasure. Recently several countries, including the USA, planned to follow in our flight. However, now I see this action as nonsensical. We endeavored to save Polish children from developing thyroid cancers by protecting them from a radiation dose of 50 mSv to the thyroid gland [7]. At this dose ICRP recommended implementation of stable iodine prophylaxis. But in studies of more than 34 000 Swedish patients whose thyroid glands received radiation doses reaching up to 40 000 mSv from iodine-131, there was no statistically significant increase in thyroid cancers in adults or children, who had not already been thought to have cancer before treatment with iodine-131. In fact, an opposite effect was observed: there was a 38% decrease in thyroid cancer incidence as compared with the non-irradiated population [8, 9]. In a much smaller British study of 7417 adult hyperthyroid patients whose thyroids received average radiation doses from iodine-131 reaching 300 000 mSv, a 17% deficit in incidence of all studied cancers was found [10]. Without the stable iodine prophylaxis and milk restrictions, the maximum thyroid dose would have reached about 1000 mSv in about 5% of Polish children [7]. All that I would now expect from this dose is a zero effect.

Fourteen years after the Chernobyl accident in the officially termed "highly contaminated" areas of the former Soviet Union, except for thyroid cancers, no increase in incidence in solid cancers and leukemia was reported. In its 2000 Report, UNSCEAR stated that the "population need not live in fear of serious health consequences", and "generally positive prospects for the future health of most individuals should prevail" [6]. No epidemics of cancers in the Northern Hemisphere, direly predicted from the LNT assumption to reach tens and hundreds of thousands, or even millions of cases, has ever occurred.

The number of 1800 new thyroid cancers registered among the children from Belarus, Russia and Ukraine should be viewed in respect to extremely high occurrence of the "occult" thyroid cancers in normal populations [11-14]. These cancers, not presenting adverse clinical effects, are detected at post mortem, or by ultrasonography examinations. Their incidence ranges from 5% in Colombia, to 9% in Poland, 13% in the USA, and 35% in Finland [12]. In Finland occult thyroid cancers appear in 2.4% of children 0 to 15 year old [11]. In Minsk, Belarus the normal incidence of occult thyroid cancers is 9.3% [15]. The greatest incidence of "Chernobyl" thyroid cancers in children under 15 years old, of 0.027%, was registered in 1994 in the Bryansk region of Russia, which was less by a factor of about 90 than the normal incidence of occult thyroid cancers among the Finnish children. The "Chernobyl" thyroid cancers are of the same type and similarly invasive as the occult cancers [13]. The first increase of these cancers was registered in 1987 in the Bryansk region, Russia, one year after the accident. Since 1995, the number of registered cancers tends to decline. This is not in agreement with what we know about radiation induced thyroid cancers, the latency time for which is about 5 years after irradiation, and the risk of which increases until 15 - 29 years after exposure [6]. In the United States the incidence rate of thyroid tumors detected between 1974 and 1979 during a screening program was 21 times higher than before the screening [16], an increase similar to that observed in three former Soviet countries. I believe that the increased registration of thyroid cancers in contaminated parts of these countries is a classical screening effect.

There were 28 fatalities caused by very high doses of radiation to rescue workers and employees of the power station, and 3 deaths in this group due to other reasons. Among 237 members of the reactor staff and emergency workers, initially examined for signs of acute radiation sickness, this diagnosis was confirmed in 134 patients. From among these patients, 11 died up to 1998. The causes of death were as follows: 3 cases of coronary heart disease, 2 cases of myelodysplastic syndrome, two cases of liver cirrhosis, and one death each of lung gangrene, lung tuberculosis and fat embolism. One patient, who was classified with Grade II acute radiation sickness (acute radiation dose of 2.2 - 4.1 Gy) died from acute myeloid leukemia. A substantial increase in the incidence of leukaemia amongst recovery operation workers was predicted, but the evidence for a measurable radiation effect on this incidence is somewhat mixed. The average standardized incidence ratio (SIR) for leukemia ranged among these workers for Belarus, Russia and Ukraine from 0.94 to 7.76, but the problem is that similar increase was found for chronic lymphatic leukemia, a subtype deemed not to be induced by radiation exposure. Contribution of a screening or diagnostic bias to these excesses cannot be excluded. The SIR for all cancers combined in the recovery operation workers ranged from 0.70 to 1.02 in Belarus, from 0.91 to 1.01 in Russia, and from 1.05 to 1.11 in Ukraine.

In the general population of the contaminated regions of Belarus, the SIR for leukemia was 0.46 to 0.62 (i.e. 46% to 62% of the normal incidence in Belarus), 0.93 to 0.99 in Russia and 1.05 to 1.43 in Ukraine. The SIR for all cancers combined ranged from 0.30 to 0.69 in Belarus, from 0.89 to 0.98 in Russia, and from 0.80 to 0.82 in Ukraine. Hence, the incidence of all cancers appears to have been lower than it would have been in a similar but unirradiated group. The only real adverse health consequence of the Chernobyl catastrophe among about five million people living in the contaminated regions is the epidemics of psychosomatic diseases [6]. These diseases were not due to irradiation with Chernobyl fallout, but were caused by radiophobia, induced by years of propaganda before and after the accident, and aggravated by improper administrative decisions. As a result of these decisions, several million people in three countries have "been labeled as, and perceive themselves as, actual or potential victims of Chernobyl"[17]. This was the main factor behind the economic losses caused by the Chernobyl catastrophe, estimated for Ukraine to reach $148 billion until 2000, and $235 billion until 2016 for Belarus [17].

In 1986 most of my professional colleagues and I, the authorities, and the public in Poland and elsewhere, were pre-conditioned for irrational reactions. Victims of the LNT dogma, we all wished to protect people even against the lowest, near zero doses of ionizing radiation. The dogma influenced behavior of everybody, leading to a mass psychosis, in fact to the greatest psychological catastrophe in history [2], into which the accident in Chernobyl, with the efficient help of media and national and international authorities, quickly evolved. It seems that professionals, international and national institutions, and the system of radiological protection did not meet the challenge of the Chernobyl catastrophe.

The following main lessons can be deduced from this accident:

(1) Ionizing radiation killed only a few occupationally exposed people. Due to rapid decay of short-lived radionuclides, the Chernobyl fallout did not expose the general population to harmful radiation doses. Near the burning reactor, the area covered by the dangerous radioactive fallout where, on April 26 1986, the radiation dose rate reached 1 Gy per hour (after one year it had decreased by a factor of about 3000), was limited to two patches totaling together about 0.5 km2 in an uninhabited location, and reaching a distance of 1.8 km from the burning nuclear reactor. Several hundred meters outside the 1 Gy isoline the dose rate dropped by two orders of magnitude, to a level of 0.01 to 0.001 Gy per hour. This is a completely different situation than after a surface explosion of a 10 Mt nuclear bomb, when the 1 Gy per hour isoline can reach a distance of 440 km, and the lethal fallout can cover tens of thousands km2, and endanger the life of millions of people.

(2) The reported excess of thyroid cancers in children and in adults exposed to Chernobyl fallout is not consistent with the knowledge on effects of medical use of iodine-131. The report of an "excess" appears to be an effect of screening, and is only a small fraction of the normal occult thyroid cancers incidence occurring in populations unexposed to iodine-131.

(3) Radionuclides were injected high into the stratosphere, at least up to 15 km altitude, which made possible its long distance migration in the whole Northern Hemisphere, and a penetration over the Equator down to the South Pole [18]. With unique, extremely sophisticated radiation monitoring systems, implemented in all developed countries, even the most tiny debris from the Chernobyl reactor was easily detected all over the world. No such system exists for any other potentially harmful environmental agent. Ironically, this excellence of radiological protection ignited the mass anxiety, with its disastrous consequences in the former Soviet Union, and strangulation of nuclear energy development elsewhere.

(4) Psychosomatic disorders and the screening effects were the only detectable health consequences among the general population. Fighting the panic and mass hysteria could be regarded as the most important countermeasure to protect the public against the effects of a similar accident should it occur again.

(5) This was the worst possible catastrophe of a badly constructed nuclear reactor, with a complete meltdown of the reactor core, followed by the ten-days long completely free emission of radionuclides into the atmosphere. Nothing worse could happen. It resulted in a comparatively small occupational death toll, amounting to about half of that of each weekend's traffic in Poland, and tens or hundreds of times lower than that of many other industrial catastrophes, and it is unlikely that any fatalities were caused by radiation among the public. In the centuries to come, the Chernobyl catastrophe will be seen as a proof that nuclear power is a safe means of energy production.

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Further Information

Notes

a. The World Health Organization (WHO) coordinated the independent Expert Group "Health" of the Chernobyl Forum inter-agency initiative. A series of expert meetings led to the publication of Health Effects of the Chernobyl Accident and Special Health Care Programmes, Report of the UN Chernobyl Forum, Expert Group "Health", World Health Organization, 2006 (ISBN: 9789241594172). The report is available on the WHO webpage on Health effects of the Chernobyl accident (www.who.int/ionizing_radiation/chernobyl/en) along with a fact sheet which summarises the main health effects of the accident as outlined in the report. [Back]

b. Exposures and effects of the Chernobyl accident, Annex J to Volume II of the 2000 United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation Report to the General Assembly, is available at the UNSCEAR 2000 Report Vol. II webpage (www.unscear.org/unscear/en/publications/2000_2.html). It is also available (along with other reports) on the webpage for UNSCEAR's assessments of the radiation effects of The Chernobyl accident (www.unscear.org/unscear/en/chernobyl.html). [Back]

c. Estimated Long Term Health Effects of the Chernobyl Accident, Background Paper 3 from the 8-12 April 1996 conference One Decade after Chernobyl held in Vienna is available in the conference proceedings from the International Atomic Energy Agency. [Back]

d. Lessons of Chernobyl with particular reference to thyroid cancer by Zbigniew Jaworowski was published in April 2004 Newsletter No. 30 of the Australasian Radiation Protection Society (ARPS). The same article appeared in Executive Intelligence Review (EIR), Volume 31, Number 18 (7 May 2004). A version of the ARPS article in Word format and a PDF file of the EIR article can be downloaded from the Environmentalists For Nuclear Energy website (www.ecolo.org). An extended version of this paper was published as Radiation folly, Chapter 4 of Environment & Health: Myths & Realities, Edited by Kendra Okonski and Julian Morris, International Policy Press (a division of International Policy Network), June 2004 (ISBN 1905041004). [Back]

References

1. Health Effects of the Chernobyl Accident and Special Health Care Programmes, Report of the UN Chernobyl Forum, Expert Group "Health", World Health Organization, 2006 (ISBN: 9789241594172). [Back]

2. Annex J: Exposures and effects of the Chernobyl accident, UNSCEAR 2000 Report to the General Assembly. [Back]

3. Estimated Long Term Health Effects of the Chernobyl Accident by Elizabeth Cardis et al. is in the conference proceedings as Background Paper 3 of the One Decade after Chernobyl - Summing up the Consequences of the Accident conference, cosponsored by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the World Health Organization (WHO) and the European Commission, held at the IAEA headquarters in Vienna on 8-12 April 1996. [Back]

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Everyone on the sane side, and even the semi-educated wackos agree the fuel has not been molten beyond the first week(s) of the crisis. You loose credibility by ranting again and again that you think the fuel is still molten.

The 'proof' of this is in the amount of heat released into the water. And the temperature of the water exiting the reactors continues to drop. This is seen in all three damaged reactors. The drop in temperatures is as expected. To ignore this and pretend otherwise only shows your pre-determined mindset.

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This latest author you have came up with casually puts out an unsubstantiated number that 5 times even the highest number the wackos have put put before. I give him no credibility. Somehow you think it is your job to dredge up what some crazy who is spouting out some new multiplier in the number of deaths at Chernobyl deaths.



Funny, If you were watching current events, pressure and heat has been rising. So you have no proof.

"At 11:59 am, because the tendency of pressure increase in the Primary Containment Vessel, we adjusted the exhaust gas flow of the PCV gas control system from approx. 17 m3/h to approx. 38 m3/h in order to decrease the pressure of PCV."
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/n...outs_120424_02-e.pdf

Hydrogen Density of Reactor No. 2′s Primary Containment Vessel

Apr. 27, 2012 @ .36%
Apr. 11, 2012 @ .19%
Mar. 11, 2012 @ .06%
Feb. 3, 2012 @ .04%
Dec. 22, 2011 @ .45%

For 2012, it appears Tepco did not publish hydrogen levels for the No. 2 PCV until Feb. 3. Please post in comments or send in as a tip if you are able to locate a figure for hydrogen levels between Dec. 23, 2011 and Feb. 2, 2012.
http://enenews.com/highest-...ished-year-reactor-2

7 fold increase in Cesium @ Reactor 2
http://enenews.com/7-fold-i...2-during-april-chart

I know you blow off the temp increase, as faulty sensors, so I won't bother even posting them. However, the increase of pressure, and hydrogen production, is consistent with increasing temp.

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Health Impacts

Chernobyl Accident Appendix 2

(Updated November 2009)

The health effects of the Chernobyl accident have been the subject of unprecedented study by health professionals and unprecedented speculation and exaggeration by parts of the media. This Appendix summarises the following authoritative and expert assessments of the situation:

The 2006 report of the World Health Organization (WHO), Health Effects of the Chernobyl Accident and Special Health Care Programmesa.
Exposures and effects of the Chernobyl accident, Annex J of the 2000 Report of the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation to the General Assemblyb.
Estimated Long Term Health Effects of the Chernobyl Accident, Background Paper 3 of the April 1996 conference in Vienna, One Decade After Chernobylc.
Lessons of Chernobyl - with particular reference to thyroid cancer by Zbigniew Jaworowski, former chairman of the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiationd.
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Nice nuclear industry funded report. Now tell me why Russia's version of NPR, would trump up the disaster? You can't, because they don't benefit from that.

Now, to prove you are just quoting industry funded nonsense...
"But a 2009 book by a group of Russian and Belarussian scientists published by the New York Academy of Sciences argued that previous studies were misled by rigged Soviet statistics.

"The official position of the Chernobyl Forum (a group of UN agencies)
is that about 9,000 related deaths have occurred and some 200,000 people have illnesses caused by the catastrophe," authors Alexei Yablokov, Vasily Nesterenko and Alexei Nesterenko wrote in "Chernobyl: Consequences of the catastrophe for people and the Environment".

"A more accurate number estimates nearly 400 million human beings have been exposed to Chernobyl's radioactive fallout and, for many generations, they and their descendants will suffer the devastating consequences."
http://www.reuters.com/arti...dUSTRE72E42C20110315

Those numbers are far higher, than what you are claiming. Russia's numbers are higher still.
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Title: Radio-isotopic Analysis of Post-Fukushima Accident Japanese Soil Samples
Source: Anti-Proton.com
Author: Thomas Watson
Date: March 3, 2012
Link: http://anti-proton.com/Japan/Report.pdf
Website: http://anti-proton.com

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Kashiwa City soil near rain spout from someone’s yard @ 97,500 Bq/kg [...]
That is an exceeding large amount of radioactivity to find in somebody’s soil.
The most unfortunate place was in a child’s playground, also in Kashiwa City.
This playground had a radioactivity in dirt that children play on of @ 41,500 Bq/kg.
I detected Cs-137 and Cs-134.They were so high they clouded everything else. There was nothing else I was able to detect as a result of it.
Very active, huge amounts of radioactivity.
Little children play on this everyday.

At 16:15 in

Here is the soil sample form the child’s park in Kashiwa City.
This plastic container is actually blocking a lot of the alpha particles.
When i pulled this out of the sample container, it was about double this.

http://enenews.com/tokyo-su...other-isotopes-video

Oh, and yes kids eat dirt.
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Radioactive: Revelations on nuclear plants sound a warning
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Like a dark family secret long suspected but never confirmed, the shock of discovery is all the more lurid for coming into the light years later. So it is with the news of radioactive material released into the air -- at levels higher than any seen in the nation -- at closed nuclear fuels plants in Armstrong County.

Incredulity feeds the first reaction: Surely this could not have happened. But apparently it did, according to good authority.

That would be Joseph P. Ring, a Harvard University radiation safety officer who teaches at Harvard and the University of Massachusetts. He wrote a 37-page report that was filed Tuesday as part of federal lawsuits brought against plant operators Babcock & Wilcox Co. and Atlantic Richfield Co. by about 90 cancer victims.

The plants operated in Apollo and Parks Township from 1958 through 1984. Mr. Ring found "numerous large-scale releases of ionizing radiation into the neighboring environment" during the operating lives of the plants. The emissions added up to "the largest quantity ... of any nuclear facility in the United States."

But putting dirty plants in neighborhoods -- something that should never have been done, Mr. King wrote -- was only one part of the equation. Worse yet, he cited internal documents that said the operators knew of the problems that began with faulty construction but never did enough to stop them.

These revelations are not news to those who live near the plants -- after all, they are the basis of the allegations in the lawsuits. Patricia Ameno, a plaintiff in a previous round of litigation, told Post-Gazette reporter Rich Lord that, due to health problems, "A lot of people have lost not only their entire savings but their homes." Families have been torn apart by illnesses and deaths, she said.

The lawsuits, brought by plant workers and neighbors in 2010, are before U.S. District Court Chief Judge Gary L. Lancaster, who will have the ultimate say on Mr. Ring's report and other expert opinions filed. But on the face of it, what happened at the old plant sites seems an outrage.

While the Apollo site has since been cleaned up, a lesson can be drawn. The nuclear industry -- which this newspaper has long supported -- doesn't lack for regulation, and indeed the Atomic Energy Commission and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission sometimes cited the facilities over the years. But apparently not enough.

That raises a larger point: We live at a time when conservative politicians are strongly pushing the idea that prosperity will come when free enterprise is allowed to operate unfettered by regulations -- as if the natural laws of human behavior have been repealed. To see how that might work out, a person need only go to Armstrong County and ask the people who live there.

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"That raises a larger point: We live at a time when conservative politicians are strongly pushing the idea that prosperity will come when free enterprise is allowed to operate unfettered by regulations -- as if the natural laws of human behavior have been repealed. To see how that might work out, a person need only go to Armstrong County and ask the people who live there."

I have to disagree with this statement. Conservatives DO NOT believe in no regulation at all, but regulations must be reasonable, and balanced. The problem comes with existing regulations that are not enforced, which seems to be the real problem, from that report.

My wife's family are down winders.

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"That raises a larger point: We live at a time when conservative politicians are strongly pushing the idea that prosperity will come when free enterprise is allowed to operate unfettered by regulations -- as if the natural laws of human behavior have been repealed. To see how that might work out, a person need only go to Armstrong County and ask the people who live there."

I have to disagree with this statement. Conservatives DO NOT believe in no regulation at all, but regulations must be reasonable, and balanced. The problem comes with existing regulations that are not enforced, which seems to be the real problem, from that report.

My wife's family are down winders.


I disagree with the statement also, that is more of a Libertarian view. Even then it would be partly false, as it would be up to the state to set regs. It wasn't my words, just a liberal author, turning a tragedy into politics.
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Well what is it?

Your Russian version of NPR at 1,000,000.000 deaths or 9,000 or 400,000,000

What number of how many deaths are you going to hang your hat on?

 
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Nice nuclear industry funded report. Now tell me why Russia's version of NPR, would trump up the disaster? You can't, because they don't benefit from that.

Now, to prove you are just quoting industry funded nonsense...
"But a 2009 book by a group of Russian and Belarussian scientists published by the New York Academy of Sciences argued that previous studies were misled by rigged Soviet statistics.

"The official position of the Chernobyl Forum (a group of UN agencies)
is that about 9,000 related deaths have occurred and some 200,000 people have illnesses caused by the catastrophe," authors Alexei Yablokov, Vasily Nesterenko and Alexei Nesterenko wrote in "Chernobyl: Consequences of the catastrophe for people and the Environment".

"A more accurate number estimates nearly 400 million human beings have been exposed to Chernobyl's radioactive fallout and, for many generations, they and their descendants will suffer the devastating consequences."
http://www.reuters.com/arti...dUSTRE72E42C20110315

Those numbers are far higher, than what you are claiming. Russia's numbers are higher still.


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Well what is it?

Your Russian version of NPR at 1,000,000.000 deaths or 9,000 or 400,000,000

What number of how many deaths are you going to hang your hat on?


I would guess somewhere between 9,000 and 400,000. Russia is most likely including children that would have been born, and that would be speculation. I do not buy the WHO low ball numbers.
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Tuesday, April 24, 2012

Fukushima air to stay radioactive in 2022
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FUKUSHIMA — A decade from now, airborne radiation levels in some parts of Fukushima Prefecture are still expected to be dangerous at above 50 millisieverts a year, a government report says.

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The report, which contains projections through March 2032, was presented by trade minister Yukio Edano Sunday to leaders of Futaba, one of the towns that host the crippled Fukushima No. 1 power plant.

The report includes radiation forecasts for 2012 to 2014, and for 2017, 2022 and 2032, based on the results of monitoring in November last year. It was compiled to help municipalities draw up recovery and repopulation programs for the nuclear disaster.

The forecasts do not take into account experimental decontamination efforts.

Earlier this month, the government designated areas where annual radiation dosage exceeds 50 millisieverts as those likely to remain off-limits to evacuees in the near term.

The report said that annual radiation levels in March 2022 will probably exceed 50 millisieverts in some of the areas, including Futaba and Okuma, the other town that hosts the radiation-leaking plant.

In another meeting between the central and local governments, Reconstruction Minister Tatsuo Hirano presented a draft policy for reviving Fukushima that is based on a special reconstruction law that took force in March.

The draft said the central government will provide fiscal support to improve living conditions and revive the regional economy and communities.

The government plans to give Cabinet approval to the policy as early as May.
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I have friends who are medical doctors working in Fukushima and they get to see people bleeding, losing hair, and having a bad health condition, and lots of people dying.
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119 of 132 people positive from sampling survey of radioactive substances in urine in Iwate
Posted by Mochizuki on April 29th, 2012 · 6 Comments

Iwate prefecture conducted sampling survey of radioactive substances in urine in Ichinoseki city and Oshu city.

The result published on 3/2/2012 shows cesium was measured from 119 of 132 people (90.1%). The highest reading was 6 Bq/L.

On 4/16/2012, the chairman of Iwate association of obstetricians and gynecologists, Kobayashi sent public questions to Tasso, Iwate governor.

1. 尿検査çµæžœã®è©•ä¾¡ã«ã¤ã„ã¦

1. About the assessment of the urine survey results.

1. 評価ã—ãŸå§”員会ã®ä¼šè­°éŒ²ã¯å…¬é–‹ã•ã‚Œã¦ã„ã‚‹ã®ã‹ä¼ºã„ã¾ã™ã€‚ã¾ãŸã€å…¬é–‹ã—ã¦ã„ãªã„ã¨ã™ã‚Œã°ãã®ç†ç”±ã‚’伺ã„ã¾ã™ã€‚

1. Is the meeting minutes of the assessing committee disclosed ? If not, we demand to know the reason.
2. 評価ã—ãŸå§”å“¡ã¯ã€æ”¾å°„性物質ã®å…§éƒ¨è¢«ã°ãã«é–¢ã™ã‚‹å°‚門家ãªã®ã‹ã€ã©ã“ã§ã©ã®ã‚ˆã†ã«ã—ã¦é¸ã°ã‚ŒãŸã®ã‹ã€ã¾ãŸã€å¸‚æ°‘ã®ä»£è¡¨ã‚’加ãˆã‚‹ã“ã¨ã¯ã§ããªã‹ã£ãŸã®ã‹ä¼ºã„ã¾ã™ã€‚

2. Are the committee members the experts of internal exposure ? Where and how were they selected and why citizen’s representatives were not added to the members ?

2.尿検査çµæžœã‚’å—ã‘ã¦ã®ä»Šå¾Œã®å–り組ã¿ã«ã¤ã„ã¦

2. About treatments to follow up the result.

1. 放射性セシウムãŒæ¤œå‡ºã•ã‚ŒãŸå­ã©ã‚‚ãŸã¡å€‹ã€…ã®é£Ÿç”Ÿæ´»ãªã©åŽŸå› ã‚’調ã¹ã‚‹ã€ã¾ãŸç—‡çŠ¶ãªã©ã®èžãå–り調査ãŒå¿…è¦ã¨æ€ã‚ã‚Œã¾ã™ãŒã€ãã®äºˆå®šã¯ãªã„ã‹ä¼ºã„ã¾ã™ã€‚ã¾ãŸã€äºˆå®šãŒãªã„å ´åˆã¯ãã®ç†ç”±ã ‚‚ãŠç¤ºã—下ã•ã„。

1. Is there any schedule to conduct research about the diet of the children who they measured cesium from the urine of and about their symptoms ? If not, we demand to know the reason.

2. å­ã©ã‚‚ãŸã¡ã®å¥åº·ã‚’守るãŸã‚ã€ä»Šå¾Œã‚‚継続ã—ã¦å°¿æ¤œæŸ»ã¨å¥åº·æ¤œæŸ»ã‚’è¡Œãªã£ã¦ã„ãã¹ãã ã¨æ€ã„ã¾ã™ãŒã€ã”見解を伺ã„ã¾ã™ã€‚

2. We think we shall continue to conduct children’s urine test and health inspection from now on. What is the view of Iwate prefecture ?
3.  本県ã«ãŠã„ã¦ã‚‚甲状腺ã«æ”¾å°„性ヨウ素をå–り込んã å¯èƒ½æ€§ãŒã‚ã‚‹å­ã©ã‚‚ãŸã¡ãŒã„ã‚‹ã¯ãšã§ã™ã€‚ã“ã®ã“ã¨ã«ã¤ã„ã¦æ¸¬å®šã¨è©•ä¾¡ã‚’è¡Œã„ã€å¯¾ç­–を講ã˜ã¦ä¸å®‰ã‚’解消ã•ã›ã‚‹ã¹ãã§ã¯ãªã„ã‹ã¨æ€ã„ã¾ã ™ãŒè¦‹è§£ã‚’ãŠç¤ºã—ãã ã•ã„。

3. Some of the children must have taken radioactive iodine to thyroid in Iwate as well. We think we shall conduct research and assess the result to deal with the concerns of citizens. What is the view of Iwate ?
3.今回ã®å°¿æ¤œæŸ»ã«é–¢ã™ã‚‹å°‚門的ãªè³ªå•

3. Professional questions about this urine test

1. 今回ã®å°¿ã‚µãƒ³ãƒ—リング調査ã®è©•ä¾¡éŽç¨‹ã«ãŠã„ã¦ã€ã‚»ã‚·ã‚¦ãƒ ã®ä½“内åŠæ¸›æœŸã‚’ã©ã®ã‚ˆã†ã«è©¦ç®—ã—ã¦ã„ã¾ã™ã‹ã€‚å¹´é½¢ã«ã‚ˆã£ã¦åŠæ¸›æœŸãŒç•°ãªã‚‹å ´åˆã¯ã€ä¾‹ã‚’挙ã’ã¦ãŠç¤ºã—ãã ã•ã„。

1. How did you estimate the biological half-life of cesium ? if it differs from age, please show us examples.

2. 今回ã®å°¿ã‚µãƒ³ãƒ—リング調査ã®è©•ä¾¡éŽç¨‹ã«ãŠã„ã¦ã€ä½“内ã®ã‚»ã‚·ã‚¦ãƒ ç·é‡ï¼ˆå˜ä½ãƒ™ã‚¯ãƒ¬ãƒ«ï¼‰ã‚’試算・算出ã—ã¦ã„ã¾ã™ã‹ã€‚算出ã—ã¦ã„ã‚‹ãªã‚‰ã€ãªãœå…¬è¡¨ã—ãªã„ã®ã‹ä¼ºã„ã¾ã™ã€‚

2. Did you estimate the entire amount of cesium contained in body from this result ? If yes, please give us the reason why it is not published.

3. 「体é‡ï¼”0キロã®å­ã©ã‚‚・慢性摂å–・事故ã‹ã‚‰365日後ã®æ¤œæŸ»ãƒ»æ—¥å°¿é‡ï¼‘リットルã€ã¨ã„ã†ä»®å®šã§ã€å°¿1リットルã‹ã‚‰ä½•ãƒ™ã‚¯ãƒ¬ãƒ«æ¤œå‡ºã•ã‚Œã‚‹ã¨ã“ã®å­ã©ã‚‚ãŒã€ã€Œå¹´é–“1ミリシーベルトã€ã¾ãŸã¯ã€Œç” Ÿæ¶¯100ミリシーベルトã€ã«ç›¸å½“ã™ã‚‹è¢«ã°ãã‚’å—ã‘ãŸã“ã¨ã«ãªã‚‹ã®ã‹ãŠç¤ºã—ãã ã•ã„。

3. Please tell us how much of cesium per L in urine corresponds to “1 mSv/h†or 100mSv/Life on the assumption that a 40kg of a child continuously takes cesium for 365 days after Fukushima accident / urine = 1L/d.
4. åŒã˜ãã€ä¸Šè¨˜ã®ä»®å®šã®å­ã©ã‚‚1リットル当ãŸã‚Šï¼–ベクレル検出ã•ã‚ŒãŸå ´åˆï¼ˆ365日後)ã®é è¨—実効線é‡ã¨ã€ã“ã®å­ã©ã‚‚ãŒäº‹æ•…ã‹ã‚‰730日後ã®æ¤œæŸ»ã§ï¼–ベクレル検出ã•ã‚ŒãŸå ´åˆã®é è¨—実効線é‡ã‚’ãã ‚Œãžã‚Œç®—出ã™ã‚‹ã¨ã©ã®ã‚ˆã†ãªæ•°å€¤ã¨ãªã‚‹ã‹ä¼ºã„ã¾ã™ã€‚

4. Please give us the depository and effective dose on the same assumption as above (365 days later and 730 days later.)

以上ã®ç‚¹ã«ã¤ã„ã¦ï¼•æœˆï¼‘ï¼–æ—¥ã¾ã§ã«ã€æ–‡æ›¸ã§å›žç­”ã—ã¦ã„ãŸã ãよã†ãŠé¡˜ã„ã—ã¾ã™ã€‚ãªãŠã€å›žç­”ã„ãŸã ã„ãŸå†…容ã¯ãƒžã‚¹ã‚³ãƒŸã«æä¾›ã„ãŸã—ã¾ã™ã®ã§ã”承知ãŠããã ã•ã„。

Please give us documented answers for those questions above by 5/16/2012. We will disclose the content of the answer to media
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Thyroid nodules rate in Fukushima is 20 time higher than in Chernobyl
Posted by Mochizuki on April 29th, 2012 · 4 Comments

Following up this article..Thyroid pandemic

In March, Fukushima government conducted thyroid test for under 18 in 13 cities and towns such as Minamisoma city, Namiemachi, Iidatemura, Tomiokamachi etc..

The result shows thyroid nodules (≦5.0mm) or cyst (≦20.0mm) were seen in 13,460 from 38,114 people (35.3%).

Compared to their pre-test result of January, it increased from 29.7% to 35.3%. (↑ 5.6%)



↓ January

Thyroid nodules case in Fukushima is 20 time more than in Chernobyl



↓ March

Thyroid nodules case in Fukushima is 20 time more than in Chernobyl2



By the way, Yamashita Shunichi conducted thyroid test for 120,000 people in Chernobyl from 5.1991 to 4.1996, when was 5 years ~ 10 years after Chernobyl.

According to the research of Yamashita, in Homyel, the most contaminated city in Belarus, the thyroid nodules ratio (*) was 1.74%, which is only one in twenties of that 35.3%.

Thyroid nodules case in Fukushima is 20 time more than in Chernobyl3

( Even if (*) excludes the ratio of cyst, the exclusive nodule ratio in Fukushima is 1.0%, which is almost the same as the ratio in Belarus of 1.74%. )



The statistics of Chernobyl was taken 5~10 years later than the accident where it has been only 1 year since 311 in Fukushima.

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Muttonbirds affected by Fukushima - researcher
By Paul Harper
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The meltdown of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant may be responsible for a decline in New Zealand's muttonbird population.

A Department of Conservation study found only two-thirds of birds returned to an area near Auckland, after spending the northern summer in Japan - some only 20km from the plant, which was crippled in Japan's earthquake and tsunami in March last year.

The birds return to New Zealand in November to mate, but DOC seabird researcher Graeme Taylor told Radio New Zealand the ones that returned were in poor condition.

"We won't know if they've died up there in the north Pacific until another year goes by, because sometimes these birds skip a breeding season- where if they are in a poor condition they don't attempt to breed, and so they may turn up again and breed.

"But if the birds never turn up again then you have to start to wonder what's gone on with the population."

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Mr Taylor said the research only looked at a small sub-sample of the breeding population, but it was the drop in numbers was the "most unusual event" in 20 years of studies of the birds' numbers.

He said many of the birds which arrived back had old feathers on their tails, wings and body.

"I've never seen birds in that poor of a condition come back to New Zealand."

He said the condition of muttonbirds suggested they did not get the food in the north Pacific they usually do.

The Fukushima disaster may be responsible, he said, although the La Nino weather pattern which lay over New Zealand last year may have been a factor.

Meanwhile a second study, undertaken Ngai Tahu and Te Papa, found 30 muttonbird chicks from the Ti Ti Islands near Stewart Island had no radioactive traces and were safe to eat.
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And, finally, the third distinguishing feature of the last "gift" of the Soviet regime is the fact that its consequences are endless and uncontrollable, and it is impossible to count the exact number of victims. Scientists are still arguing if the number of one million deaths is valid, but when such big numbers are taken into account, the one thing is absolutely clear - things are in a bad way. Besides, no one can count how many babies could not be born, and on the lives of how many subsequent generations this disaster will tell in the form of cancer.



https://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...083464-62.html#p2445

So you are knowingly posting (and bolding and underlining) things that you yourself believe to not be true.

Do you consider this intentional misleading, as you said before, "a service to the community"??

 
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I would guess somewhere between 9,000 and 400,000. Russia is most likely including children that would have been born, and that would be speculation. I do not buy the WHO low ball numbers.

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It couldn't be that a large portion of their habitat was destroyed by the tsunami. It also couldn't be that the birds have migrated to a different area.

It has be the radiation. Nice jumping to conclusions.

 
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Muttonbirds affected by Fukushima - researcher
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Some muttonbirds returning to New Zealand for the mating season have been in bad condition - and the Fukushima nuclear disaster could be to blame. Photo / supplied

The meltdown of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant may be responsible for a decline in New Zealand's muttonbird population.

A Department of Conservation study found only two-thirds of birds returned to an area near Auckland, after spending the northern summer in Japan - some only 20km from the plant, which was crippled in Japan's earthquake and tsunami in March last year.

The birds return to New Zealand in November to mate, but DOC seabird researcher Graeme Taylor told Radio New Zealand the ones that returned were in poor condition.

"We won't know if they've died up there in the north Pacific until another year goes by, because sometimes these birds skip a breeding season- where if they are in a poor condition they don't attempt to breed, and so they may turn up again and breed.

"But if the birds never turn up again then you have to start to wonder what's gone on with the population."

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Mr Taylor said the research only looked at a small sub-sample of the breeding population, but it was the drop in numbers was the "most unusual event" in 20 years of studies of the birds' numbers.

He said many of the birds which arrived back had old feathers on their tails, wings and body.

"I've never seen birds in that poor of a condition come back to New Zealand."

He said the condition of muttonbirds suggested they did not get the food in the north Pacific they usually do.

The Fukushima disaster may be responsible, he said, although the La Nino weather pattern which lay over New Zealand last year may have been a factor.

Meanwhile a second study, undertaken Ngai Tahu and Te Papa, found 30 muttonbird chicks from the Ti Ti Islands near Stewart Island had no radioactive traces and were safe to eat.
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It couldn't be that a large portion of their habitat was destroyed by the tsunami. It also couldn't be that the birds have migrated to a different area.

It has be the radiation. Nice jumping to conclusions.




Showing your ignorance again? How do I jump to conclusions while leaving no comments, and posting the article in full?
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The one million dead is more plausible than your 50 or so.
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Another typical leftist tactic. Misstate the other side's position into the extremely absurb.

Read the article again and redo your math. It does not state 50.

Remember you have a reading and comprehension problem.

 
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The one million dead is more plausible than your 50 or so.

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Another typical leftist tactic. Misstate the other side's position into the extremely absurb.

Read the article again and redo your math. It does not state 50.

Remember you have a reading and comprehension problem.



Funny, you just did what you accused me of. Also, you tend to call anyone who disagrees with you, a leftist, or accuse them of using leftist tactics.
Your article states this about actual deaths....
 
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On the number of deaths due to acute radiation syndrome (ARS), the Expert Group report states: "Among the 134 emergency workers involved in the immediate mitigation of the Chernobyl accident, severely exposed workers and fireman during the first days, 28 persons died in 1986 due to ARS, and 19 more persons died in 1987-2004 from different causes. Among the general population affected by the Chernobyl radioactive fallout, the much lower exposures meant that ARS cases did not occur.
Eight patients died due to progression of their thyroid cancer and six children died from other causes. One patient with thyroid cancer died in Russia." It is from this that several reports give a figure of around nine thyroid cancer deaths resulting from the accident.


My 50 or so is pretty damn close, wouldn't you say? Now, there is speculation in the article about potential future deaths, but they throw in a escape clause, basically stating that is impossible to know how many will die. Which makes that estimate null and void.
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Have someone read it for you. Perhaps you have a 5th grader there that can do it. Read the entire article and then see if you can come up with their number.

No it is not 50.
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Have someone read it for you. Perhaps you have a 5th grader there that can do it. Read the entire article and then see if you can come up with their number.

No it is not 50.


I ignore any numbers that have a loophole for people like you to claim, it really isn't that bad. Almost every paragraph in that report,with figures, has a clause. The report was written in a way, that it would probably be fairly accurate, either way it turns out. What, I quoted was the only parts of the report, that I seen, where they were willing to stick with a number one way or another.
Yes, I am only skimming through the report. No, I am not going to read every line of it, it is extremely obvious, through the wording of the report, of the WHO position. Pretty close to yours, downplay as much as you can, while leaving a escape loophole, so you can't be held accountable.

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So your logic is that you will just ignore all of the report that doesn't state hard numbers and then you will intentionally misstate the findings as the only hard number?

So that is how you worked up your latest lie?

You truly are a leftist wacko.

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I would guess somewhere between 9,000 and 400,000. Russia is most likely including children that would have been born, and that would be speculation. I do not buy the WHO low ball numbers.


So I see your number is then zero.
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So your logic is that you will just ignore all of the report that doesn't state hard numbers and then you will intentionally misstate the findings as the only hard number?

So that is how you worked up your latest lie?

You truly are a leftist wacko.



Pro or against the current nuclear industry, does not make one right or left leaning. There are liberals that love nuclear power. It just makes you look like an idiot to attach political leanings to a industry. That said, I only go by the numbers, without a built in clause. The report is little more than a game of semantics, and hence why you like it so much. It might as well say, "2,200 liquidators are expected to die, but don't quote us on that."
Find a source, that will at least stick with its own numbers.

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Can We Cope With A Terror Attack In Los Angeles?

May 3, 2012 | 1:49 p.m. PDT
On March 11, 2011 a devastating earthquake off the coast of Tohoku, triggered violent tsunami waves that claimed the lives of at least 15,854 people. More than 3,155 people are still missing. The World Bank has estimated that the economic cost of the tragedy is about $235 billion, making it single most expensive natural disaster in world history. It was a disaster of epic proportions—the greatest earthquake ever to have hit Japan and one of the strongest since record keeping began in 1900.

So strong was the earthquake that it physically changed Japan’s landscape, bringing it 7.9 feet closer to North America and shifting the earth's axis anywhere from 10 to 25 centimeters. It also caused several nuclear meltdowns at three reactors in the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant complex. An aftershock several days later caused the Onagawa Nuclear Power Plant to lose three of four external power lines and impacted cooling functions, leading to a spill of a couple liters of radioactive water.

In the aftermath, the international media focused obsessively on the nuclear accidents. Even though it was the tsunami that more strongly impacted—and continues to affect—both people and infrastructure in Japan, the nuclear accidents generated considerable international anxiety.

“There was more fear and anger with regard to the nuclear accident than the earthquake or the tsunami,†said William Burns, a decision research scientist at California State San Marcos. “Emotional reaction to the nuclear accident was high.â€

Massive loss of life resulted from the natural disaster, not the nuclear accidents that Japan worked diligently to contain. Yet it was an accident due to man’s oversight, in this case not preparing nuclear sites for a massive 9.0 earthquake, which caused more fear globally following the natural disaster. Worldwide media immediately began to draw comparisons between the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear disaster in the Ukraine and the Fukushima meltdown.

“Chernobyl is much, much worse,†said Najmedin Meshkati, an engineering professor with the USC Viterbi School of Engineering. Meshkati, who has visited Chernobyl’s nuclear accident site, is an expert on effects of earthquakes on nuclear plants and emergency responses. “There was really not anything wrong with the design of the [Japanese] reactors,†said Meshkati. “However, we really need to change some of our basic assumptions. Aristotle had a beautiful line: ‘Probable impossibilities are to be preferred to improbable possibilities.’ What we saw in Japan were probable impossibilities.â€

There is no way to know for certain how humans react when faced with disaster. But making the unthinkable thinkable—understanding the ramifications of a disaster and methods that can help in preparing for its consequences—is a focal point of the research at USC’s Center for Risk and Economic Analysis of Terrorism Events (CREATE).

A team of researchers recently completed a Department of Homeland Security-funded study that assesses the regional economic impacts of a hypothetical catastrophic event like a radiological dispersal device (RDD) attack or a “dirty bomb†attack on Los Angeles’ financial district compared to a natural disaster like an earthquake. Such an attack has the potential to cause radioactive fallout across the city and surrounding areas—thereby causing a mass exodus and significant damage to commerce. After New York, Los Angeles is the second most populous city in the United States. It’s no great surprise, therefore, that the city has long been a top target for terror organizations such as al-Qaida.


“Risk assessment has everything to do with the public’s response to disasters—particularly disasters that are essentially man-made,†said Burns, who was a researcher on the Los Angeles project. “Findings indicate that terrorism is the largest because it’s malevolent. We fear terrorists the same way we fear sharks in the ocean.â€

Using a carefully honed methodology, the research identifies consequences of a terror attack and the public’s reaction to it. Scientists surveyed 625 people nationwide by showing them a mock newspaper article and newscasts. The participants, who represent people of all incomes, ethnicities and racial backgrounds, were asked a series of questions to record their perceptions. Economists working on the project translated the perceptions into estimates of economic incentives needed to persuade people to remain in the city.

On average employees would demand a 25 percent increase in wages to return to their jobs. Most businesses would require a higher rate of financial return to remain in an area where there is a high radiation risk. After six months following an attack, 41 percent of those surveyed said they would still not consider shopping or dining in the financial district.

In comparison, an earthquake was far less likely to instill fear among the research participants even though it is a potentially more devastating disaster. As in the aftermath of the tsunami in Japan, fear of contamination would be considerable. “People fear man-made events much more even though natural disasters boast a much greater threat,†said Burns.

According to Burns, behavioral effects tend to have long-term harmful impacts on both the supply-cost of resources and willingness to pay for output in the directly affected area. Ultimately, this can generate direct and indirect losses in broader regional Gross Domestic Product (GDP).

“The financial district there would probably be shut down completely for a couple of months,†said Adam Rose, who studied the major economic impacts of the disaster. “Most of those costs are related to the behavioral effects.â€

Fear causes a “dampening effect on the economy,†according to Rose, which would mean ripple effects as costs increase that impact demand for goods, prices and quantities of products. The public’s fear has the potential to cost 15 times more than the original wreckage and clean-up.


“How the public responds to an event like that will contribute the lion share impact,†said Burns. “The costs, which include deaths, injuries, property damage, those impacts are dwarfed compared to how the public responds. In so much the public may say, we don’t want to go to that area anymore.â€

Unlike the terror attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, a dirty bomb attack carries with it the possibility of contamination. While many workers saw long-term health impact following the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, there was no nuclear device or immediate scare of contamination.
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Ultimately, public perception of an event, such as a terror attack or natural disaster, directly influences economic impact and long-term societal impact. Carefully crafting messages to both advise the public and alleviate fears not only helps to prevent panic, but also helps to prevent long-term economic harm. Anything that can be done from a policy standpoint to reduce excessive fear from the public has considerable benefits.


“Anything we can do from a policy standpoint that can reduce excessive public concern about an event has huge economic benefits,†said Burns. “We’re not trying to bamboozle the public. We want them to believe the truth based on expert, objective people.â€




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Well if nothing else, at least you have improved on your reading comprehension.

So now it is that you only believe people if they give a fixed number.

I would rather get the accurate facts AS KNOWN, rather than have someone make an unsubstantiated and thus unrealistic guess.

 
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Pro or against the current nuclear industry, does not make one right or left leaning. There are liberals that love nuclear power. It just makes you look like an idiot to attach political leanings to a industry. That said, I only go by the numbers, without a built in clause. The report is little more than a game of semantics, and hence why you like it so much. It might as well say, "2,200 liquidators are expected to die, but don't quote us on that."
Find a source, that will at least stick with its own numbers.


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Well if nothing else, at least you have improved on your reading comprehension.

So now it is that you only believe people if they give a fixed number.

I would rather get the accurate facts AS KNOWN, rather than have someone make an unsubstantiated and thus unrealistic guess.



Really? So if Obama throws out a deficit amount, and then says no one can no for sure what the deficit is, you will believe that number? Didn't think so!
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'Hot spots' detected at more than 20 schools in Koriyama

FUKUSHIMA, Japan (Kyodo) -- More than 20 schools in Koriyama city in Fukushima Prefecture, home to the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, have "hot spots" with high radiation levels on their premises, a civil group said Sunday.

The finding was based on municipal education board documents it obtained through an information disclosure request, it said.

The education board instructed elementary and junior high schools as well as nursery schools in January to check air radiation levels in side ditches, hedges and drains on their premises. Schoolyards and classrooms were excluded as the levels there have been regularly examined.

Reports submitted by each school in April showed at least 14 elementary and seven junior high as well as five nursery schools have hot spots where the cumulative annual radiation dose could reach 20 millisieverts, or more than 3.8 microsieverts per hour.

At the start of the new academic year in April, the education board lifted a restriction that had limited students to playing in schoolyards for less than three hours per day in the wake of the nuclear disaster last year.

Tokiko Noguchi, head of the civil group, told a press conference Sunday, "There are many spots in schools where radiation levels still remain high," calling on the education board to restore the restriction.

May 07, 2012(Mainichi Japan)
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