Sheriff's deputy kills former football star in front of son A man who played running back for the Cincinnati Bengals from 1978 to 1980 was shot and killed by a Kern County Sheriff's deputy in front of his 19-year-old son.
It happened early Sunday at the Fastrip store, 2200 Nile St., in northeast Bakersfield.
According to the Kern County Sheriff's Office, a group of teenagers were outside of the Fastrip trying to get adults to buy alcohol for them. When deputies arrived, they approached 56-year-old David Lee Turner, who was leaving the store with his son.
Turner's son was too shaken to speak with Eyewitness News on Sunday, but he told his sister what he witnessed.
"They asked my dad if he was the person buying alcohol for underage youth," Jerrica Cor-Dova said.
According to Turner's son, his father denied the claims, but deputies continued to question him. Turner then asked officers if he was being arrested. The deputies said no, and Turner grabbed his stuff and began to walk away.
"As he was walking away, the officers came up behind him and hit him in the back of the legs with a club, causing him to fall on his knees," Cor-Dova said.
Turner's son said the bag his father was carrying fell to the ground and the beer in the bag exploded. The next thing he heard was two shots being fired.
"My brother said he yelled my dad's name, and my father was lying there still," Cor-Dova relayed the story.
But according to the sheriff's department, the shots were fired because one of the officers was hit over the head with the items in the bag. His son said that never happened.
"I know that there is a video recording, so we are relying heavily on the video recording from Fastrip," Cor-Dova said.
Eyewitness News contacted Fastrip in an effort to obtain the surveillance video, but, due to the ongoing investigation, it cannot release the video.
The family is asking for answers.
"All we want is for justice to be served. We need some closure here. This is devastating," Turner's girlfriend Doralene Hicks said.
As said... more examples of Retards abusing there power as police officers... Personally I dont think (most) of them are any better than the people they put away.
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According to this version of the story the deputy that claims he was hit over the head was treated for his injuries at the hospital.
"treated" can easily just mean he said "ow, my head hurts, i think i should see a doctor. winkwink." imho, if he was "treated" at a hospital, the article would have said what happened and what damage was done. it in NO WAY means he was actually injured unless they have a report from a doctor saying he needed stitches. if you are a grown man and you hit someone over the head with something heavy and hard, its going to make a significant mark.
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Ex-NFL player dies after early-morning fight with Sheriff's officers BY JAMES BURGER, Californian staff writer jburger@bakersfield.com | Sunday, Jul 10 2011 01:54 PM Last Updated Sunday, Jul 10 2011 06:51 PM
David “Deacon” Turner was a star running back at Shafter High School, Bakersfield College and the San Diego State University before he played three seasons with the Cincinnati Bengals from 1978 to 1980.
But he’d been down on his luck since then — out of work and repeatedly in trouble with the law throughout the ‘80’s, 90’s and 2000’s according to Kern County Superior Court online records.
On Sunday morning, the man that his former Bakersfield College coach Gerry Collis said looked like boxer Joe Frazier, got into an altercation with Kern County Sheriff’s deputies that ended when Deputy Wesley Kraft fatally shot the former NFL player outside an east Bakersfield convinience store.
“He’s the best running back I coached at BC, but heck I only coached there 27 years,” Collis said.
Collis, who’d kept in touch with Turner and tried to help him get on his feet, said his former player was hoping to get some sort of retirement from the NFL.
“He was a marvelous kid. I loved that kid,” Collis said. “He called me a couple times and I didn’t get back to him. I wish I had now.”
Sheriff’s reports state that shooting occurred after deputies responded to reports of 10 to 15 juveniles asking adults to purchase alcohol and cigarettes for them at the busy store at the corner of Niles Street and Mt. Vernon Avenue.
According to Sheriff’s Lt. Bart Camps, the Fastrip is the only store in that neighborhood that is open that late and can be very busy at night and early in the morning.
When deputies arrived at the store they encountered David Lee Turner, 56, coming out of the store with his 19 year-old son, a 16-year-old juvenile and bags of items Turner had just purchased, including alcohol.
Deputies detained Turner and the two teens while they investigated the situation. According to reports, Turner first complied with deputies’ directions but then attempted to leave the area.
When deputies tried to stop Turner from leaving, he fought with them, Sheriff’s reports stated.
During the scuffle Deputy Aaron Nadal, who has worked for the Sheriff’s Department for three years, was reportedly hit in the back of the head with a bag containing two 24-ounce cans of beer.
Deputy Wesley Kraft, a four year veteran of the Sheriff’s Department, responded by drawing his handgun and firing at Turner twice. Turner was struck and fell to the ground.
He was rushed to Kern Medical Center nearby, where he died around two hours later. Collis said the situation just didn’t sound like the David Turner he knew.
“It is not like him. He was not a trouble-maker,” Collis said. “The deputy must have provoked him.” Nadal was taken to Memorial Hospital where he was treated for his injuries and released.
Sheriff’s reports state the incident is under investigation by Sheriff’s detectives and Kraft has been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation. My Yahoo Print
even if the entire defense the cops are giving is true, "Deputy Wesley Kraft, a four year veteran of the Sheriff’s Department, responded by drawing his handgun and firing at Turner twice." that statement alone makes the situation bad enough for Kraft and everyone defending him to be severely punished. TWO shots to subdue a man with a bag containing 2 cans of beer..? bad judgement, lack of acceptable training, or just a bad cop, either way he needs to be punished. im tired of the whole thing where cops defend eachother to the death regardless of evidence or guilt.
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Yeah.. two tall boys for the dozen teenagers. That'll fill them up!
They should have used some logic...
Out of all the stories where I say race isn't an issue... this one might be. The man probably did attack them with beer cans. Who knows? It doesn't really matter. He shouldn't have been killed. There were better ways to handle the situation.
By the way, he was shot twice too.
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I agree that it`s another case of abusing power but I wonder if it might have ended differently if after asking if he was being arrested he would have asked am I free to go"? Some of you might not agree, but since I think it`s a pretty widely accepted fact that you aren`t going to win an arguement with a cop why push it. Be the most agreeable MF that they have ever run across until you are in a less volatile situation such as public or legal support.
I take it you are not directing the "deserve to die" question toward me because that point never came up in my post. I was pointing out that cops are sometimes jumpy anyway and the less stress you can contribute toward a situation the better.
''Eyewitness News contacted Fastrip in an effort to obtain the surveillance video, but, due to the ongoing investigation, it cannot release the video.''
cops should not be able to hide evidence like this video behind this '' ongoing investigation,'' BS
in miami we have 60+ open '' ongoing investigation's'' some as much as 5 years old inc 26 people killed by cops that cops will not release any data on sighting the BS ''ongoing investigation'' a ongoing planned cover up is a more true description of what is going on to delay and hope the community forgets about the killer cops
the tape should be a public record and cops should have no right to hide it from the public
I note when a cop gets shot there is never a 5 year investigation before the supect is arrested and all the details are instantly put out in public crime details are NOT STATE SECRETS esp if the state is the criminal
I agree that it`s another case of abusing power but I wonder if it might have ended differently if after asking if he was being arrested he would have asked am I free to go"? Some of you might not agree, but since I think it`s a pretty widely accepted fact that you aren`t going to win an arguement with a cop why push it. Be the most agreeable MF that they have ever run across until you are in a less volatile situation such as public or legal support.
Seems to me that legally the fact that he wasn't under arrest by default made him "free to go". He shouldn't have had to ask, it was a fact based on the not being under arrest part.
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''Eyewitness News contacted Fastrip in an effort to obtain the surveillance video, but, due to the ongoing investigation, it cannot release the video.''
cops should not be able to hide evidence like this video behind this '' ongoing investigation,'' BS
in miami we have 60+ open '' ongoing investigation's'' some as much as 5 years old inc 26 people killed by cops that cops will not release any data on sighting the BS ''ongoing investigation'' a ongoing planned cover up is a more true description of what is going on to delay and hope the community forgets about the killer cops
the tape should be a public record and cops should have no right to hide it from the public
I note when a cop gets shot there is never a 5 year investigation before the supect is arrested and all the details are instantly put out in public crime details are NOT STATE SECRETS esp if the state is the criminal
The reason why law enforcement will not release the videos is due in part of litigation. During this time all of parties involved who are deemed "guilty" by viewing the video can get all of their ducks lined up, get stories straight, and lawyer-up.
In some cases, the videos are released after a year thus serving as a "cooling off" period. In time the citizens soon forgets the incidents and those involved receive a slap on the wrist and/or shipped to another department. As for Bakersfield/Oildale. I tried getting a nice home near StoneRidge area with a 20% down. I guess they didn't want a Black guy in the neighborhood with a Fiero.
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Attorneys claim second video exists in Turner shooting, but they don't have a copy
Last Updated Wednesday, Jul 20 2011 08:00 PM
Claims by attorneys representing the family of David Lee Turner that video exists showing Turner's fatal shooting are nothing but an attempt to create doubt in the public's mind and taint the jury pool in the event of a civil trial, Kern County Sheriff Donny Youngblood said Wednesday.
"What these attorneys are trying to do is try this case in the media," Youngblood said.
He added that he seriously doubts there's another video, and if there is one, someone should come forward with it.
Gerson Horn, one of the attorneys representing the Turner family, said several family members and attorney Brian Dunn have viewed the other video. Horn said he personally hasn't seen the video, but said he's been told it's a Fastrip surveillance video that shows Turner's run-in with sheriff's deputies on July 10 from beginning to end.
Horn said neither he nor Dunn has a copy of the video and he's not sure what happened to it. Dunn could not be reached for comment Wednesday.
Asked why no one had turned the video over to the sheriff's department, Horn said, "That's a good question."
There are six seconds missing from the Fastrip surveillance video released Monday by the sheriff's department. Horn said the missing footage includes the actual shooting of Turner by a deputy. Youngblood has said the camera was on a motion sensor and briefly cut out until additional motion started it recording again.
Youngblood said he's looking into whether there could possibly be another video, but he said he can't imagine that his detectives have not checked every camera at Fastrip.
"I would be very interested to see (that video), certainly, if it exists," he said.
Horn said a federal lawsuit will be filed within the next two weeks alleging wrongful death, deprivation of civil rights and intentional or negligent infliction of emotional distress since one of Turner's sons witnessed the shooting. A monetary value for the lawsuit hasn't been determined, but Horn said Turner leaves behind eight children and each of them should be compensated.
Horn said that not only was the shooting unlawful, but also deputies had no right to stop Turner in the first place.
Youngblood said deputies have a legal right to detain someone, and that's what they were trying to do before the shooting happened. One deputy struck Turner's leg with a baton to stop him, and Youngblood said that strike was also within department policy and is considered less use of force than using a Taser.
Turner's size also played a role in the action deputies took in trying to detain him, Youngblood said. Turner, a former NFL player, was a large, strong man and it would have been difficult for deputies to stop him using their hands alone.
Turner, 56, was shot early July 10 at the Fastrip on Niles Street and Mount Vernon Avenue. Deputies had responded to that location for reports of juveniles asking adults to buy alcohol for them, the sheriff's department has reported.
Deputies had detained Turner at the scene and searched him. Turner at first complied, but became agitated and started walking away.
A deputy, trying to stop Turner, struck him in the leg with a baton, Youngblood has said.
Turner then raised a bag he was carrying that contained two 24-ounce cans of beer and swung it "tomahawk-style" down on Deputy Aaron Nadal's head, Youngblood has said. Deputy Wesley Kraft fired twice at Turner as Turner again raised the bag to strike Nadal, the department has said.
Turner died about two hours later at Kern Medical Center.
A sheriff's department shooting review board ruled the shooting was within department policy and Kraft has been cleared to return to duty.
The department's use of force policy says deputies have the right to use deadly force when it's reasonable under the circumstances known or reasonably believed by the deputy that there is a significant threat of serious bodily harm or death to any person, and generally: as a means of self-defense from death or serious injury; to defend another officer or citizen from death or serious bodily injury; to prevent a crime in which human life is in jeopardy as a result of a suspect's actions; and deadly force may not be used to prevent escape of a suspected felon, unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.
Probably a good shoot ,as a former leo,I have been involved with ""with I aint doin nothin"" you keep your mouth shut & obey many people do not "" I got my rights"" Ive seen how quickly the innocent turn deadly the cops get the benefit of the doubt for a damn good reason killing a man over a scuffle seems cruel & heartless tho One of the drinking innocents(6'4") almost killed me,with my own club the family and friends ALWAYs claim he tweren doin nothin !! ....Of course my fave police story,Numerous Houston Texas Officers drown 2 mexican in a water filled pothole by holding thier boots on the necks of the poor slobs 2nd best= police officers with a warrant ,broke down the door of a Tampa bay motorcycle club house ,saw a man walking up the stair with a shot gun, they started shooting,,unfortunately for the officers , the Outlaw was a former force recon marine(a cool dude) he turned on the stairs loaded the shotgun and shot 2 Officers, sent the rest fleeing ,,he walked force recon is sort of like a Navy seal
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Why do these police reports coming out continue to change adding more and more agression from him then the first statement. Also the Baton used as a less agreesive then the tazor. wtf we go baton to gun and skip the tazor on the guy with a bag of beer?
Turner seen in video leaving the store with one of his kid(s) tooting plastic bags in both hands. Police search Turner and no weapons are found and all heck breaks loose and then the cops shots Turner as he swings a bag of beer at them. Self defense huh? Keep in mind that somebody reported an adult was giving beer to minors. Wow, just wow. The video showed turner leaving the store. No exchange of beer was seen in the video. The officer see the three leaving and stop them. Keep in mind there's plenty of other people leaving the store.
all those people going in and out of the store and the camera can turn off? I thought most motin systems need no movment for at least 30 seconds before shutting off?
You guys should use some common sense and wait for oh....I dunno, some facts. At at this point the story is pretty shaky and based on hear say. If it pans out like the boy said, then I hope that cops gets locked away for a very very long time.
BTW, many things can justify a shooting. For example, If you came at me with a beer bottle, that can do some nasty fatal damage. I would shoot you in a heart beat.
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You guys should use some common sense and wait for oh....I dunno, some facts. At at this point the story is pretty shaky and based on hear say. If it pans out like the boy said, then I hope that cops gets locked away for a very very long time.
BTW, many things can justify a shooting. For example, If you came at me with a beer bottle, that can do some nasty fatal damage. I would shoot you in a heart beat.
"Wait for the fact"? "Common sense?" Did the LAPD and Mayor use common sense used in the Bryan Stow beating?
There is NO way to tell what the hell happened. Everything is sped up much faster then real time, and there is no audio either. All you can see is the cops moving around him quickly and he moves fast as well. No matter many times I watch, without being able slow it down, you cant tell what happened. It actually looks as if there may have been a scuffle. Sorry to say, but this video is about as clear as mud as to what happened.
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There is NO way to tell what the hell happened. Everything is sped up much faster then real time, and there is no audio either. All you can see is the cops moving around him quickly and he moves fast as well. No matter many times I watch, without being able slow it down, you cant tell what happened. It actually looks as if there may have been a scuffle. Sorry to say, but this video is about as clear as mud as to what happened.
Obviously, you over looked the fact that Turner was with his sons and the call was for someone selling or giving booze to underage kids. A simple ID would've cleared everything, but that wasn't good enough. In the video they check him for weapons which Turner clearly complied. Later they’re lives were threaten so they shot him. As you stated in another thread that you'd consider a broken bottle is justified in shooting a person. Here you have a person with cases of beer or bottles inside a plastic bag, walking away from them and somehow the officers can’t shout, "stop" or "hault" Instead, the officer confronts Turner thus a hail mary is thrown. The plastic bag might-as-well contaned a bag of bread. The officer would've just lied and claimed they thought it was sharp objects in the bag-lame.
IMHO Turner was okay with the initial questioning and search, but instead of the officers verifying all persons (sons) they wanted to push it by asking more and more questions, detaining him, thus awaiting and hoping for an physical altercation. Meanwhile, the persons responsible for selling boozs leaves the store while the officers are focusing their attention to a family leaving a store. If Turner was a threat-why not hand cuff him on the spot and place him inside the car? Why not run his ID? If Turner had a weapon on them-why didn't they remove it? Do you see the officer removing a "weapon" in the video? No.
Again, you are filling the gaps with what you think happened. This video proves nothing one way or the other. It doesn't show the cops acted correctly, nor does it show they acted incorrectly. You are going into great detail about "what happened" based on one testimony and a video from a far angle, no audio, and is not in real time. You can't see or hear what happened. The scary part is how you say it as if its fact, when its all your speculation. Your right, a beer bottle in hand is a deadly weapon, and can deal some massive damage. Did he go after them with one?......I don't know. Either do you. You want to sit here and argue with me because I point out the fact that solid information is missing. Your filling in the holes with emotional points and bias perception. I am simply saying, before anyone condemns anyone, wait for the facts to emerge. You cannot sit here and objectively claim to have gotten any clear indication of what happen from that video. Where the scuffle takes place, its barley visible, dark, and sped up twice as fast as real time. You cant make out what the hell is going on with any sort of accuracy.
Just like the Casey Anthony case, people want to convict someone of being guilty before the facts are in. In this case, I see nothing but hear say evidence and a video that shows nothing useful, and yet you and many others are running to jump on the "guilty of murder ban wagon" before anything solid has been placed on the table. I'm not sitting here proclaiming to know what happened. You may be right, but then again you may be completely wrong.
If there is on thing I hate more then anything, its a corrupt cop. However I also hate it when people jump to conclusions and fill in the gaps when they themselves no nothing of the case. That is called ignorance, and its no short supply here.
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Again, you are filling the gaps with what you think happened. This video proves nothing one way or the other. It doesn't show the cops acted correctly, nor does it show they acted incorrectly. You are going into great detail about "what happened" based on one testimony and a video from a far angle, no audio, and is not in real time. You can't see or hear what happened. The scary part is how you say it as if its fact, when its all your speculation. Your right, a beer bottle in hand is a deadly weapon, and can deal some massive damage. Did he go after them with one?......I don't know. Either do you. You want to sit here and argue with me because I point out the fact that solid information is missing. Your filling in the holes with emotional points and bias perception. I am simply saying, before anyone condemns anyone, wait for the facts to emerge. You cannot sit here and objectively claim to have gotten any clear indication of what happen from that video. Where the scuffle takes place, its barley visible, dark, and sped up twice as fast as real time. You cant make out what the hell is going on with any sort of accuracy.
Just like the Casey Anthony case, people want to convict someone of being guilty before the facts are in. In this case, I see nothing but hear say evidence and a video that shows nothing useful, and yet you and many others are running to jump on the "guilty of murder ban wagon" before anything solid has been placed on the table. I'm not sitting here proclaiming to know what happened. You may be right, but then again you may be completely wrong.
If there is on thing I hate more then anything, its a corrupt cop. However I also hate it when people jump to conclusions and fill in the gaps when they themselves no nothing of the case. That is called ignorance, and its no short supply here.
I agree on about everything here. I watched the video several times, trying to make sense of it. I can't tell with the crappy video/angle/speed of the tape.
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There are things shown in the video that to me make it look like the shooting was unjustified. The deputies searched him for weapons so they knew he had no weapons on him and they knew the contents of the plastic bags.
Beer cans in a plastic shopping bag is not a deadly weapon and isn't even close to one. Had they subdued him rather than killed him, he would have been charged with assaulting a police officer, not attempted murder. This shooting was not justified.
Again, you are filling the gaps with what you think happened. This video proves nothing one way or the other.
That interesting. You're saying that I'm "feeling in the gaps" and "jumping to conclusions", but the Sheriff Donny Youngblood in charge (who view the same video here) filled in the blanks and came to a conclusion.
Sheriff's review board: Fatal shooting of David Turner within policy:
"The sheriff's review board decision that the shooting was within departmental policy came only eight days after the July 10 killing of Turner at a Fastrip convenience store." http://www.bakersfield.com/...utm_campaign=synapse
That's amazing. Sheriff Donny Youngblood viewed the same video and made a decision yet you're telling me that the public can't?
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You are going into great detail about "what happened" based on one testimony and a video from a far angle, no audio, and is not in real time.
Remember, Turner's two sons were there.
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This video proves nothing one way or the other. It doesn't show the cops acted correctly, nor does it show they acted incorrectly.
Oh really. A call is made about adult selling booze to underage kids and three people are seen leaving a store. The officers detain, search for weapons, and view the contents in the bags. That is the only thing the officer did correctly-period. All that was need is to identify the person, search suspect and sons, view the contents inside the bag, and get the suspect story. Once the suspect informs the officers that the two youths are his own kids-what more information would they need?
If the officers wanted more information-why not place Turner in the car; go to the store to see if both stories match with the owner of the store, view video tape, and if both stories matched? After the stories are matched-let Mr. Turner goes and offers an apology.
Besides, if a suspect was selling booze to kids-why would the kids be leaving with suspect? Kids buying booze don't waltz away with the person selling the booze. The exchange is done and they split. They don't freaking walk down the block with the person. However, I digress. Once the suspect informs the officer that these are his kids-end of story.
At that point, the issue wasn't him selling alcohol. Something took place that caused an escalation, and it is not being shown or is clear what that is. No offense, but your speaking from a point of view with zero training or knowledge on what you do to obtain information. There was no reason for the officers to do what they did unless the suspect reacted violently. Again, you have failed to pin point anything. You keep running possible scenarios of what they "could" have done. Here is the problem. The video is vague, you have no audio, its too fast to see whether or not the officers were assaulted. Also, you were not there, and on top of it all you have no knowledge as to what happened other then a claim and crappy video, you have no training or knowledge of police defensive tactics.
It reminds me of when people say "he had a knife, why didn't the police shoot them in the leg". Because,...you shoot center mass, you don't aim for the legs. There are MANY reasons for this.
A lot can happen in seconds, and this video shows 6 seconds worth of video so fast, you cant tell whats going on. All you can see is there was some physical contact between the cops and him, but its very unclear as to what that contact was. What if he charged a cop with an object? how big was the officer? I'll tell you right now, if a 6 foot 4 man weighing 250 pounds of muscle charged a small officer, female or male, they could shoot them and be justified. Especially considering there are many tool on an officers belt that can be used against them. Many cops have been killed by their own weapon that was taken away because they were over powered.
Concerning the sheriff who said it was within policy after 8 days. If he is saying that, he is probably right. Their not going to risk blow back over one officers actions if he is wrong, that is suicide. especially for the Sheriff's re-election. They would fire him faster then you can blink. regardless of what people think, when an officer screws up, their ass is on the firing line by their own department.
Also, you think the sheriff made this decision based off of what you know? AKA, this crappy video and the two testimonies you have? No, of course not.
He has access to dash cams with audio, ALL cameras at the store with all angles available, and all the eye witness reports at the scene. He has 100 times more information and knowledge into what happened then anyone here including you and the many on the internet. Like it or not, that is fact. Would a Sheriff risk his elected position proctecting a deputy from a bad shooting?.......VERY VERY unlikely.
Also, in cases like this, the state police come in and conduct what is called am "IA" (Internal Investigation). They bring in a third party agency to remove any bias. They have investigators who's sole job is to question the shooting, the officers involved, and to find if there are any issue. during my career, there have been MANY officers fired or jailed from the result of IA's finding criminal conduct. They are not biased in favor of the officer. Right now, there is without question an IA being done by an agency, and if there is misconduct, they will find it and nail him to the cross.
Sorry Madcurl, but you not looking at this very objectively.
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Originally posted by madcurl: "The sheriff's review board decision that the shooting was within departmental policy came only eight days after the July 10 killing of Turner at a Fastrip convenience store."
Right, but there are other video's from what I understand. At the very least there is one in the Police car, and I'm betting even more aimed at the gas pumps, and parking lot. Each officer also has audio.
I'm not saying what happened was right, just that I can't judge from the video posted, it "looks" bad, but man is it sped up, did it only record every few seconds?
I'm awaiting the video.
