He was fine when we left Friday evening. Returned Sun evening and found he has a slab of hair and hide gone. I thought ringworm at first, but looking closer it didn't look like it and whatever it is, it's not tender, oozing or bleeding, and no other injuries anywhere. He likes to sleep under my truck, and I thought maybe he went under there right before we left and got burned on the muffler, but doesn't look like that either. His right rear hip.
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Did something just bite a chunk of hair an hide off without taking anything else?

Treat it with.........?

Hot spot? Spray him with some hot spot spray. Is his coat coming out in chunks anywhere else if you pull it? I am betting he caught it on something or chewed it a bit.

No--no hair missing anywhere else. He's putting on winter coat this time of year. Part German Shepard part husky.
Dunno about hot spots--I'm not familar with that but we've had this one since he was a puppy--he's now 4 yrs old.

Looks almostalike a "hair removing" chemical got on it. A hot muffler would have left a burn, or red skin, at least...if he got it caught and he chewed it, it wouldn't look so "perfectly smooth". Almost like Nair or something...

It's not mange, is it?

Hope it's nothing serious.

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our one cat did that when his food changed. he had an allergic reaction and started to loose hair in localized areas. changed back and it grew back. Just an idea for you.

Mange doesn't usually occur virtually overnight, which this did. He's been on the same dogfood for over a year, no medicines other than his heartworm pills.
I guess I'll run him by the vet and see what he sez.

I had a shepherd/husky and he had the same issue once and then it went away. On the otherhand, the purebred shephard we had had them so severe that he ate through his skin all the way to the bone on his front legs and his lower hind leg. Practically chewed through the skin on his hip, too. Vets could never find the problem and no medications ever helped. They theorized that he had some kind of pain in those areas that he was trying to attend to. They did determine that his front leg problem was arthritis and he was probably chewing at the pain.

Nu-stock, from your feed /farm supply store. a smelly concoction of pine oil and sulfur. fights infection, heals, helps hair grow back.
www.nustock.com
http://www.drsfostersmith.c...0+16432&pcatid=16432
"Proven relief of red mange, ringworm, cuts, scrapes and much more on dogs, cattle, and horses.
Ingredients: Sulfur, pine oil, and mineral oil.
For Use On: Dogs, Horses, and Cattle.

Directions for Use:
Consult a veterinarian before using this product on debilitated, aged, medicated, pregnant, or nursing animals. Sensitivities may occur after using any topical medications. If signs of sensitivities occur, bathe your pet with mild soap and rinse with large amounts of water. If signs continue, consult a veterinarian immediately. May thin with baby oil if needed. Wash hands after use, will irritate eyes. For external use only. Mix contents well before use.

For use on Horses:
Use for cuts, bruises, burns, swelling, soreness, loss of hair, tender hooves, and much more.

Clean area, let dry, and then rub into affected area. Repeat every three days until desired results. Eliminates soreness and promotes fastest healing.
For use on Cattle: Use after dehorning and castrating.

For mange, cuts, and skinned areas on Dogs:
Clean area to be treated, let dry, and apply to all affected areas and rub into skin. Repeat every 3 days until desired results. On dogs over 10 years old, use only every 2 weeks. Topical use only."

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quote Originally posted by lurker: Nu-stock, from your feed /farm supply store. a smelly concoction of pine oil and sulfur. fights infection, heals, helps hair grow back.

Got some, but I was going to use it as a blood stopper when de-horning (tho I haven't dehorned any yet)

That's another thought--lots of pine stumps around exuding pine resin--maybe he just got his hair goobered up in some resin and pulled the hide off when he tried to get away from it.

I'll read up on the Nu-stock and see what it says.

A reasonable assumption niterroz--I have already ruled out Chupacabra tho. They're bloodsuckers.

chubacabbra bite

"Reggae" gets those from time to time. The vet calls them "hotspots" but I don't know what the medical term is.

He gives me a steroidal ointment to put on them and they clear up in a couple weeks or so.

Read up man, that's already ruled out.

I would discount an allergic reaction, and just guess he rubbed/chewed the hair off for some reason.

Perhaps he wants to manscape and is slowly getting it done so you don't freak out?

Brad

Obama?

You're right, Brad....I just looked at the pics.

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Bush?

If he eats at it, don't forget the "cone of shame."

quote Originally posted by htexans1: If he eats at it, don't forget the "cone of shame."

KCCO

quote Originally posted by htexans1: If he eats at it, don't forget the "cone of shame."

Bear in mind that a cut through the skin, but not the tissue underneath, will widen the wound considerably. It might, in fact I would say almost definitely, be a cut that has opened up in that way, and nothing is actually missing .The lower edge of the wound looks pretty straight, like a knife cut would be, and no 'tearing' signs along the edge.
When Zwerver was hit with a steel rebar by some scumbag builder here years ago, the wound opened up just like that. The vet anaesthetised him, sealed the blood vessels if any were ruptured, with a soldering iron(wtf??), and stitched him back up.
It is unlikely that he would be able to reach around there to chew it himself...but who knows?

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Dunno about chewing, but he licks it frequently. This is a long lanky dog--he can bite his own tail easily.
It looks a lot like roadrash, but is not red and it is perfectly smooth. I'm glad it isn't fly season for sure. That's the kind of wound they love and there's nothin worse than Flystrike.

Those front teeth work like scissors. Constant chewing with the very front teeth will take all the hair off. That's what happened to my Dante, and yes, he can chew that area. Dante came from a European breeder known for a great line of police dogs. He was one of those long, lanky shepherds, too. Not the heavy-bodied line of shepherds.

Well, I stick by my theory You can see the wound has opened up/parted in the middle, and tapers at each end to a point:the beginning and end of a cut. The colour/ pattern of the fur indicates that too, to me. It will never heal unless the two sides are drawn together and stitched, or stapled.
Edit to add: it is also almost horizontal, which would indicate a cut caused by him catching on something sharp as he was running, or moving forward. Like razor wire, or simple barbed wire, or broken glass etc.
The fur/skin of an animal is not so attached to the flesh underneath, as a hairless animal such as a human being , as can be seen if you grab a handful of fur and skin of a dog or cat...it 'slides' over the flesh underneath , which means even a slight tension over a muscle or bone will cause the cut skin to separate, just as shown in your photos Don.

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Could be a few causes (Tick?).
http://www.blurtit.com/q870896.html
http://pets.webmd.com/dogs/dog-bald-spot
http://www.medicinenet.com/...bald_spot_on_dog.htm
http://www.vetinfo.com/dog-bald-spots.html
http://vetmedicine.about.co...sesall/a/itching.htm
http://www.ehow.com/how_452...bald-spots-dogs.html
Lots to read about.
http://www.justanswer.com/p...bald-spots-neck.html

quote Originally posted by maryjane: Got some, but I was going to use it as a blood stopper when de-horning (tho I haven't dehorned any yet) That's another thought--lots of pine stumps around exuding pine resin--maybe he just got his hair goobered up in some resin and pulled the hide off when he tried to get away from it. I'll read up on the Nu-stock and see what it says.

I would think it would be more red if pulled off, but it sort of looks that way to me too. Every so often one of my dogs will grab a mouth full of cat while playing, and pull a patch of fur out, looking a lot like that.

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quote Originally posted by fierofetish: Well, I stick by my theory You can see the wound has opened up/parted in the middle, and tapers at each end to a point:the beginning and end of a cut. The colour/ pattern of the fur indicates that too, to me. It will never heal unless the two sides are drawn together and stitched, or stapled. Edit to add: it is also almost horizontal, which would indicate a cut caused by him catching on something sharp as he was running, or moving forward. Like razor wire, or simple barbed wire, or broken glass etc. The fur/skin of an animal is not so attached to the flesh underneath, as a hairless animal such as a human being , as can be seen if you grab a handful of fur and skin of a dog or cat...it 'slides' over the flesh underneath , which means even a slight tension over a muscle or bone will cause the cut skin to separate, just as shown in your photos Don.

Poor photography Nick. There is no tear. The epidermis is completely missing--not slid off to the sides. Not sure what you're seeing, but I've looked at it close a lot the last 24 hrs--no cut--no real beginning or end--it's just missing.

Well, I have seen quite a few wounds like that Don, and they were all caused by cuts. But anyway, I sincerely advise you get it stitched up, because it will NOT heal skin to sub-epidermis. The skin has to be pulled together, because skin will only heal to skin. A wound that cuts or separates skin like that cannot heal unless it is pulled together.
Just my sincere (as you will know) advice from my own experience with wounds like that on cats and dogs .
My comment about the pattern of fur/colour shows to ME that the whitish fur belongs together, not a bit missing. But, as you say, from viewing a photo, not the actual wound in real life,can be misleading . But..IT MUST BE STITCHED TOGETHER!!!!!
Off to bed... Ellie has finished work, and is home early!! We get to go to sleep at MIDNIGHT, not 4-5am in the morning :
Good luck Don.

I am thinking around the same lines as fierofetish. It looks like he got into barbed wire. Check your fence and you may find the missing fur. Its the only thing I can think of. Otherwise keep it clean so as not to fester.

quote Originally posted by Patrick: Bush?

When you have to explain a joke

Google "Obama eats dog"

Mom said something about it being a "hot spot"... like LS3Mach said...

Hmmm..having just woken up after a good night's sleep (6 hours instead of the typical 4 ), and re-reading this..Sorry Don..I guess I came across 'Knowing better than you...' which is stupid...because you are THERE looking at the injury, whilst I am just guessing from a foto and a few thousand miles away
My apologies
Nick

quote Originally posted by Toddster: When you have to explain a joke Google "Obama eats dog"

You're the one who doesn't get it.

I was thinking/suggesting a "prickly" (as in sharp, cutting) bush. It was a play on words after your post. It had nothing to do with George, senior or junior.

quote Originally posted by Patrick: Bush?

quote Originally posted by 1985FieroGT: Mom said something about it being a "hot spot"... like LS3Mach said...

HOT spot or fleas.
from Melanie
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None of the above. Took him to the vet after we returned from North Texas and found the original wound was healed and hair regrown.
No fleas--no mites-no laceration-no lice-no ringworm-no mange-no hot spots. So sayeth the vet.
A rare type fungal infection according to the vet's lab.
He did tho, according to the vet, probably chew it off himself during the nights, and started on his tail while we were gone.
Bathing him 2x/week in some of the foulest smelling concoction I've ever been around. A mixture of sulphur and lime oil, antibiotic pills 2x/day and spray on the active areas.

Source? Most likely from rolling in cow dung or decaying carcasses of deer.

I'm happy it was nothing serious. Didn't comment before, because I didn't have a clue.

It 'can' be very serious--it's evidently a rather tough fungus to get rid of. I have lost dogs before--but it will hurt a LOT to lose Indy. Hope it don't come to that.