Very nice comment for the only person whom was "privy" enough to receive a set directly from her, at the swap meet.

Every comment has been posted, there are no behind the scene conversations, MsLori has posted everything.

Interesting to see that we have a lot of people that have received defective products, but very few customers other then you who have received a proper set.

As for alienation, why are you concerned I am out my money and window you have already got yours, and in your e-mails to me, this is what you have to say to me in an usolicitied e-mail of which you sent 5.

Cplensdorf
Member
04-29-2006 08:09 AM

She claims to be sending another set out to me...I am not even attempting to send the ones I have back until I receive the new ones....Unfortunately, I will be in NY for the week and will not see them until Friday at the earliest....I think we should first attempt to get the new set first and then work on evaluating...I really do not want to get into a pissing match with her until I have something of value in my hands...the product is formed better than any other set I have seen, so I am VERY anxious to get a good printed set in my hands.....

Try to get a response from her....I did mention in my last post to her that I had heard from you and I was under the impression that another person had the same issues...lets she how she responds..

I still am baffled as to why I have the black paint strip on the backside....if you look closely, you will see that it was painted after the tape and the plastic wrap was placed on them....pretty confusing to me....these almost look like someone shipped off a set of R&D test pieces to us....

It does look like someone else got a good set....they posted that they were putting them on last night.

Chris

I took the posts since 4-30 (two and a half days) and threw them into word


Someone want to give me the abriged summary of the 66,000 chracters of text that have been posted in the last 10 posts?
A couple of people got some bad windows, I got that much out of it, but im not going to spend 2 hours reading through all that.... Please reply in less than 1000 characters...

[This message has been edited by 86GT3.4DOHC (edited 05-01-2006).]

As for "Cplensdorf" comments, this is North America, everyone and anyone has the right to express his or their opinion, without bbeing personally attacked.

It is also written and practiced. I don't have to like your opinion but you do have the right to express it.

And so do other professionals whom I have been closely monitoring and when speaking up, He/she have been slagged or flamed, resulting with a negative comment sudenly appearing on their rating bar.

This is a forum and thus all, regardless whom purchased or did not are entitled to comment. I understand some indviduals whom have not received a replacement not speaking, as do I understand why the switch in "Cplensdorf" posted comments as they differ from pm's sent to me.

He got a replacement without sending his back, is there different rules for different peoples.

This is where the problem comes in it must be the same buisness practice for everyone.

If this was a $5-10 item I wouldn't even bother, what we are talking is thousand of dollars. And as one person stated this is a principal, I have never and will never be swayed by promises or favor to gain benifit for myself in order for my silence when others are financially affected.

Lets get back to the basic, she is operating a buisness for a profit, and failed to comply. Lets leave the friend's out of this did she or did she not supply the product. You don;t have to be a lawyer to see something is really wrong.

Hi Lori, Sorry all this crap happends. But take heart we will stand by so you can make it all right with everyone. And all you weasels, go easy with her. After all she is providing something we all need. Sometimes it takes a little time to sort out all the cobwebs the first time around.

[This message has been edited by 87V6GT (edited 05-01-2006).]

quote Originally posted by 87V6GT: Hi Lori, Sorry all this crap happends. But take heart we will stand by so you can make it all right with everyone. And all you weasels, go easy with her. After all she is providing something we all need. Sometimes it takes a little time to sort out all the cobwebs the first time around.

this weasel just gave you neg.

Man you guys are nasty. How did you ever get out of the sand boxes alive?

To Clairy the shipping procedure

I attended the post office in the Northwest to verify what I had received on Saturday.

If you get a parcel at home and you did not want or request it and have not opened it, you can return it to the post office and refuse it. This is for unsolicited parcels. The post office will either return at no expense or return at shipping cod to the receipent. In most cases the post office simply returns the parcel at their expense.

Now if the parcel is actually direct to you and you have knowledge and consent that you ordered this item then you must pay to return the item regardless.

Also regardless is if you then opened the parcel and did not like it, and decided to send it back to get your money.

In these cases if the parcel was opened and or you opened and decided that you did not like the item then you must pay for return shipping.

If you decide to trick them and repackage the item and claim that you never ordered it and did not open it then they will return the item to the shipper at his cost.

In my case I ordered the item, I knew what it was and I did not like it and was returning it to the shipper and I had to pay $14.80, I was prepared for this but I thought I would verify from the postmaster himself.

It is a felony to in any way cheat, attempt to cheat condone, counsel anyone in the offense, of defrauding the USPS.

It is just that simple.

quote Originally posted by ibcruzn: ...or should I say Jeremy is mrlori.

Obviously, you don't have the slightest idea what in the hell you are talking about.

quote Originally posted by ibcruzn: I could have bet this was coming, based on the BS PM and even bigger BS email I got for my prior post here. She is not a true vendor, what more does she sell or should I say Jeremy is mrlori. Like I said before it's done this way in case something goes bad. BUY from a real vendor!

Someone explain to me exactly WHAT I have to do with this? My boss was accused of "hiding behind someone else's name", and I defended that, with these words:

quote [B] I don't want to take this thread on a different track, so I'll just say that no, that is not Ed. To suggest that he would "hide under someone else's name" is fairly rude, to say the least. Lori works at The Fiero Factory, and Ed and myself are fully aware that she is selling these. Not a big deal. I suppose, in some way, I'm glad to see someone "looking out" for the shop. In the future, it may be a bit less rude and tasteless to either Email Ed or myself (Fierotech@toast.net) directly with your concerns. Thanks and take care... Jeremy

I didn't send you a PM, or an Email.

Kindly leave myself, Ed, and The Fiero Factory out of this, entirely. Lori is an employee there. She has undertaken this endeavor on her own, and we at The Fiero Factory are completely aware of it, and completely un-involved in it.

For someone so interested in supporting "real vendors", I don't recall seeing you at the Fiero Factory Swap Meet this past weekend, where you could have said "Hi!" to myself and Ed, met Lori in person, and checked out the windows for yourself, since you seem so interested in them. Florence is what, 40 miles away? Doesn't seem too far to me.

Just in case anyone missed the point, though, myself, Ed, and The Fiero Factory have NOTHING to do with this.

Geez.

Jeremy B.

Tim, please do NOT post anything more about my dealings unless you have the facts....the posting of my message displays nothing but your ignorance.....for the record:

1. I do NOT have a set in my hands. I dare you to provide ANY shred of information that I have received a second set of windows from MsLori.....Since you have taken this to a higher level of "proof", you might want to check your "proof" PRIOR to displaying your ignorance on the issue.

2. I also have NEVER posted a single positive/negative for anyone on the forum....so if anyone here thinks they are being negatively discriminated against by me, then I believe you may have a complex that prevents you from distinguishing reality. There are plenty of criminological/sociological theories that address that one as I am sure, Tim, that you are aware....since you have been in the biz for "30 years" (start with the "Symbolic Interactionism Theory" and work your way to the "Labelling Theory" and when you have mastered those, take a look at the "Rational Choice Theory" to explain how your actions are defining you similar to that of a typical criminal)

Those two should keep you busy for pretty much....ah....forever! Please humor me with your supporting documentation for the above in your next post. I simply cannot wait......

Like I said before, IT IS YOUR APPROACH THAT HAS CAUSED YOU GRIEF!!!! Look at yourself, you have spent all of this effort and you are still in the same place as you started...that has the makings of insanity, you know the one where you do the same thing twice and expect different results. But you continue to threaten (yawn). As I am sure you are also aware (because, I know, you have been in the biz for "30 years") that from a legal perspective, no one should ever expect a defendant to respond to informal threats from a plantiff. I encourage you to file the lawsuit. In fact, I look forward to it. Your award will not exceed your damages, and at this point it stands at under $300.00. Subtract the lawyer fees, filing fees, your time, everyone else's time and all of yor other costs and you would might be in the running for "businessman of the year". (yes, this was a jab at your supporter) In fact, I am almost willing to send you the darn money myself so that Lori can focus on producing a more consistent set of windows for more people. (but that might make me knock you out of the running for "businessman of the year") I also encourage you to contact local authorities, federal authorites (as it was multi-jurisdictional), USPS security and anyone else you feel that you need to contact.

I would think a man of your upstanding character and moral fortitude would do no less. Please put your money where your mouth is and follow through with your stated actions...by the way, this is "North America" (FWIW - I do not understand your diffferentiation with North America and "America") after all and Lori is innocent of all of the "charges" you state until her day in court.

You may ask why I am spending time doing this also....??? I am actually just trying to get my first set of posts pushed to the Off Topic Section......(hint, hint....Cliff)

[This message has been edited by Cplensdorf (edited 05-02-2006).]

I'll just give my 2 cents, due to the fact everyone seems to be giving theirs.

It seems like there was a small QA (Quality Assurance) issue with the first batch of quarter windows that was sent out. Lori said she'd make good on the defective windows if you send them back. You need to send them back as proof to the producer (in this case the manufacturing plant) that the windows are in-fact defective, so that a fixed batch can be made at no additional charge to Lori. Since Lori said she'd make good on the defective windows, then all you have to do is return them (you have nothing to lose at this point).

With that said, I'm ready and willing to spend my money as soon as the defective sets are remedied and I have the funds. I trust Lori as a seller, and she's always willing to make good on her sales, even if there was a defect.

Hope that helps those which don't want to read the last 2 pages...

I want to let everyone know that anyone interested in buying a set of these windows in the future or anything else I have for sale, will need to contact me directly as I will no longer offer anything for sale on this forum. When there are people on here like Tim Harvey that have nothing better to do than sit for days and fill this post up with several pages of his complaints even after I fully agreed with him and have done everything I can possibly do at the moment to resolve his complaint. I apologize if this is an inconvenience for anyone, and anyone that would like to, can Thank Tim personally for it, his email address is: tharvey@dccnet.com. I will continue to offer the Fiero community products for their Fiero's, but just not here.

Lori

Lori, It was real nice to meet you again at the swap meet. I looked at your windows and did not see anything wrong with them. I will keep your email handy. I had a great time over the weekend, see you again next year.

MsLoriFiero (or whoever has as set), would you please post a pic of the windows installed on a vehicle? If you don't mind, could you post one with a side view showing curvature? Also, are there plans to have dot matrix around the entire inside section of the window? Thanks!

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BlueGT

The point still here is, no one has posted what good windows they have received in the mail

She on one hand states she has no good windows to send and then other people state that they saw these great windows at the swap meet

A really contradiction here

Jeremy tells one person they should have stopped by and talked to him and ed and met Lori in person and examined all of the windows himself, so where did these windows come from

She advises people to by wrap them up and returning the defective product to the post office as unopened and even put that statement in several e-mails. I was clearly advised by the post office and anyone can check with them yourselves on what ramifications that will bring.

She received a notice from the post office that her old ones were being returned when they were electronically scanned by the post office yesterday and I forked out another 15.00

As for Chris, you are blowing in the wind, you send me one e-mail which I posted and you "As?Ki??" to her in another.
Lets not forget your original feelings whereby you have never dealt with her, and you feeling towards her in this earlier thread.
Hey if you feel so strongly don't just talk, send me the $262.00 I am now out and put your faith in MsLori to rectify all the problems. If these are such great windows you could proably even make a profit at it.

As for Lori, well anyone could have got my e-mail it's under my posting, what did you think they would all decide to call and insult me thus taking the pressure off of you, I haven't received any yet, but time will tell.

The point still is

You took proably 10 people's money, You have around $2,000 or more of trusted funds
You sent out proably 10 sets of defective windows
Other then the one set you said you gave to Chris's friend at the swap meet
Where are the rest, did you sell them, are you keeping them for later adventures what

This post will only end in your favor and the windows be a sucess when the people who have posted receiving crap get an actual good pair. I returned mine 2 day priority, if others did the same you should have the defective ones in your hand.

Running and not posting is not going to get people having "faith" in you when so many have stated that they got bad product from you.

Hi Lori. I sent a PM.

CPLENSDORF

YOU ASKED FOR A HIGH LEVEL OF PROOF, IS YOUR OWN ADMISSION NOT ENOUGH

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Original Message -----
I would contact Lori....I had similar issues with mine....apparently, she entrusted someone else to QA and package them...she is quite upset about it....and has given a new set to a friend of mine at the swap meet who assures me that they look quite nice...the one thing I cannot understand is why the black was painted AFTER the tape was put on...and by what kind of numbskull...I think she really needs to make good on these things or else she is going to lose her butt on them....I sent these pics to her...

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This is your own e-mail to me.
You yourself told me that "she has given a new set to a friend of yours at the swap meet"

Buts let keep playing games you are right, you are away until friday and yes you do not have them in your hands, your friend does.

This is your own e-mail sent on Saturday the 29th. Boy talking about trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes.

But lets keep distorting the facts, they are still the same, she sent the people who could not see them junk and sold the good ones at the swap meet. This has still to be resolved.

As for law suits, why would I waste my money on a lawyer, that it what small claims court is for, but why even do this when there is, The Federal Trade Commission, The PayPal Fraud Section, The USPS security/investigate section and lets not forget your own credit card investigation section (must be min. 200 miles away) and last but not least the FBI where frauds occur over or across state lines ( a lot between hers and mine)

Tharvey

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Nobody seems to answer my questions ... Guess I'll try this again...

MsLoriFiero (or whoever has as set), would you please post a few pics of the windows installed on a vehicle? If you don't mind, could you post one with a side view showing curvature?

Are there plans to have dot matrix around the entire inside section of the window like the originals? Thanks!

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BlueGT

quote Originally posted by BlueGT: Nobody seems to answer my questions ... Guess I'll try this again... MsLoriFiero (or whoever has as set), would you please post a few pics of the windows installed on a vehicle? If you don't mind, could you post one with a side view showing curvature? Are there plans to have dot matrix around the entire inside section of the window like the originals? Thanks!

I am not sure what happened with the 'bad' GT windows.... I recieved a set in the mail and they appear to been fine for $265 GT sail windows. I happend to purchased many sets of these when GM had them, and even theirs had small scratches every now and then. I never liked the green tint, so I got the clear ones. The dot matrix is fine all the way around.

These sail windows are not GM perfect, but they are better than the flat ones, and I had LS1 added to mine, so personal touches makes these a pretty good deal.

I am sure that Lori would have resolved any problems faster if she had the cash on hand, or another set of windows to just ship right out.

I dont have installed pics Blue, because the GT they are going on is not LS1 done yet. The sail panels in this GT are fine for the most part, so I want to take my time and try to remove them without cracking them.

Loyde

HI lori. Good job! As to Mr. Tim Harvey.What can we say to people who just go of thr deep end before they get the facts and blow things WAY out of proportion.But I guess we can't please SOME people. Huh Mr. Harvey!!!
PS. Oh! I wished Cliff would take all that stuff he did on the fourm and deleat it.We don't need the kind of BS.

[This message has been edited by 87V6GT (edited 05-03-2006).]

For the record, TIM....you are still an idiot....this will be my last post on this subject because I learned when I was about 6 years old how to deal with your type (unfortunately, I found humor in it still as an adult). The admissability of someone's testimony is really only as good as the corroborating evidence to back it up....if you were not so quick to jump to conclusions, you might ask why I say that I do not have the windows in my posession...had you asked that question, you may have gotten the facts, but you, sir, have demonstrated exactly the hothead that you are....by relying only on those details that support your position....your issue has become a "self fulfilling prophecy". I will say it one last time, I DO NOT HAVE A SET OF REPLACEMENT WINDOWS IN MY POSESSION. MY FRIEND DOES NOT HAVE A SET OF WINDOWS IN HIS POSESSION. NO ONE I KNOW HAS A SET OF REPLACEMENT WINDOWS IN THEIR POSESSION. Now you can stew on those facts a little, I am sure you will spend time trying to disect those statements and match them to previous comments and call me someone that manipulates the facts and develop a conspiracy theory out of it.....BUT,

I do hope that you learn from this experience, and understand that you may not (even in all of your years), have a complete understanding of how the world works....it has been your actions have alienated from many of the people involved here including all those that we speak with and all those that they speak with. It may not be a concern for you, but I think it makes for a very difficult way of life...I am truely sorry if you are unable to concede at least that....

Thanks FastFieros! I had wondered if they had dot matrix around the entire inside border. Hopefully someone has a set that they will install soon and can post a pic. I had planned to drive to the meet in Al, but ended up working on a Fiero last weekend. If these look close enough to originals when installed on the vehicle, I would consider getting a set. Just hoping that some pictures pop up somewhere on this forum that can represent the windows installed on a Fiero.

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BlueGT

quote Originally posted by MsLoriFiero: I want to let everyone know that anyone interested in buying a set of these windows in the future or anything else I have for sale, will need to contact me directly as I will no longer offer anything for sale on this forum. Lori

So you are going to let one moron ruin it for the rest of this large Fiero Forum?
If you do that then you basically let him win. Why not instead keep offereing items here on the forum (the largest base of Fiero owners on the planet) and while doing so showing people like tharvey just what they are missing out on due to their stupidity. I'm sure that Mr. Harvey will be locked out of getting in on any other Fiero items by you and many others who have seen this on here now anyway

Steve

Cplensdorf

Your own comments speak for themselves,
Lori states in her e-mail she saved a set for you
You send me a pm which I posted that states your friend has picked up that set for you
What more can I say

You also praise her in this thread
however in your pm to me you clearly express your feelings and intention on not returning anything until you get a good set in your hands.
Your previous postings, and the original person to question her trustworthiness clearly states your feelings
then you insult and badger me trying to show everyone what an outstanding person you are

The real question is
Were you lying before, or now
You can not have it both ways, either your pm is correct and you got a set or your postings are correct and you didn't, why all the deception and insults.
As for having the mind of a criminal, how petty, however I do know how they think

Every time you post you bring this thread to the top of the forum, why not just be quiet, you know you were wrong and quit, I keep hearing on how this is your last post, last means just that no more, give it up, you have too many conflicts in your facts which do not add up, people are smart and can easily see that.
Lori

I finally received my refund but as I am sure you know I did not receive the full amount as paypal deducted a fee

Total Amount:
$261.80 USD
Fee Amount:
-$7.89 USD
Net Amount:
$253.91 USD

You would have been better off to have refunded the amount and thus both of us would not been charged, you paid 8.00 in fee's when accepting and I paid the same when accepting.

As for cooperation I am sorry this had to happen, you cut off all negotiations when you sent me the posting that you would have no further dealings with me.

You had my money and I had nothing

You told me that there were no good ones then Cplensdorf sends me the posting where you have given his friend a good set and she states they look great. Then there are further postings of numerous people buying them at the swap meet. Then you sell another set at the swap meet and you yourself post this picture. All this time telling me I have to wait as there were no perfect ones available.

I won't harp on the issue, you know what you did was wrong, lets leave it at that, there are some very smart and intelligent people on the the forum, With a little time anyone can see what was said by all and make their own determinations.

As for threats and insults, you cannot make a threat or promise to do something and claim privdledge by saying it is just my opinion. You really degrade yourself when you do this in an open forum, and as stated under the rules you make yourself look stupid.

Are you going to buy from someone who treats you this way, what do you think other perspective buyers are thinking about your customer service. Stop while you are ahead, leave it and let it be. The more you comment the longer this thread is at the top of directory and the more it is getting read.

I have no desire to post anymore it is simply not worth my time, but lets be clear here if I am insulted or accused of lying or falsifying pictures etc. and purposely damaging them which you know was wrong when you posted it I will always reply.

What will this do, simply keep it at the top of the items on the mall, and if a person checks back from time to time will then read it and this will not do your buisness any good. There has been over 1317 views of this posting since this dispute started. How many of thoose were potential customers who would have purchased your item but after reading this, have changed their minds.

How many feel if they have a problem they will go through the same thing. Have you not considered if 247.00 is a lot of money to you, how much is it to the 16 year old restoring his first car. 30 days for resolution is simply unaceptable under any ones books.

Why not just let this thread die, and start a new post with front and rear pictures of your product both on and off a vehicle along with your shipping times, refund process and how to order. You might even want to explain in clear english why you charge the shipping rate you do, and how you think it is fair, it cost you 16.90 to send me my panels however I used the online method and returned them to you for 14.80, I saved by buying the postage on line and this automatically sent you the tracking number and confirmation of shipment when I dropped it off at the post office.

It is entirely up to you, no one can live your life or tell you how to do it, but there are laws regarding basically sales of items in North America (as there are people from Canada on this forum to) I just did my research to show and use some of them.

I will cancel my paypal complaint process.
I will cancel my usps investigation
I will contact AX and cancel this investigation
And I will cancel my FTC complaint.

It's up to you on how you wish to react, I can tell you and the others that are waiting, anything is better then nothing, thus if it is 2 weeks to raise the funds and ship out the replacement panels, why not be honest and straightforward and tell them this.

You could have easily said, I am shorts of funds, However I have money on the 2nd. which will go to the supplier, he takes 6 days to make, and I will ship them the following monday the 15th of may along with e-mailing you the tracking number. I will also send you a e-mail of the pictured ones you are getting the day before for you to view.

Even I would have accepted this

Regardless to you and your friends, if you continue to keep commenting, it will always be the top topic and be in top page of the forum

Don't forget to post pics of the windows on the car if you have any! Just wanting to keep my request out here amidst all the other things going on in this thread. (Can't help but rush someone to get a set installed. Drove around in a Fiero for a long time without qtr windows because I didn't like how flat the other aftermarket ones looked. )

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BlueGT

Wow, so everyone gave their two cents and what did we get? about a buck fiddy..... Barely enough to buy a soda, and a bunch of bickering.

Im still definitely interested in a set, waiting for funding to come around, dont stop making them or nething, one bad batch isnt enough to put me off. I find it pretty unlikely that you would just knowingly box up a bunch of crappy windows and send them out, you're obviously going to have to replace them and lose a lot of $ on shipping, so I dont think for a second it was intentional that just doesnt make any kind of sense.

Jayzuss.

It seems to me that MissLori did what she said she would. Once you sent the bad windows back (which she never disputed), she refunded your money. Seems if you would have taken this route to begin with then this would have been settled long ago. Also, after reading every post, I never did read where she said "hey, you can break the law and send them like this.." Ever think that she honestly thought that it was fine to do this?

Ms Lori- I've spoken with you via email and via phone on a previous deal that fell through (The Jeep Cherokee). I would like to tell you here that I found speaking with you to be very pleasant and although we could get nothing worked out, I would not hesitate to work with you in the future. BTW- I still have that Cherokee!! Mom finally gave the title to me and told me to do whatever I wanted to. Still want it? Uh...that is so off topic. We'll discuss in PM if you want.

OK, I lied (only about the "last post" comment) because I am never one to back down to a bullish person.....I REALLY would like this to be at the top, every day, all day....It really shows off your beautiful side, Tim...AND you still can't figure out how I don't have a set yet?.....think...think little man, it may come to you!...maybe I got a refund, maybe I rejected them, maybe they got destroyed in the mail, maybe they got sent to the wrong address, maybe some one couldn't bring them back to me and ...maybe I don't care about you and your windows, maybe it is just fate, maybe this is all just a joke designed to drive you nuts....maybe you should ask these questions because your investigation is not complete yet... I really hope I get to meet you some day. Now that would be fun! Feel free to send me one more PM with just your telephone number and I would gladly take this offline....since you are so darn cheap, you can even call me collect.....

BTW - why are you the only one having these issues?

Tim harvey - eBay user ID: th-1 Buyer email: tharvey@dccnet.com

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=th-1

Interesting.

I really didn't want tot chime in, but that Ebay profile speaks volumes.

If there is anyone wanting to buy these misprinted windows for $150 a pair, plus $18 shipping please PM me. This is what is wrong with them. the dot matrix got printed to far forward and the front edge got cut off, other than that they are fine, and they do not come pre scratched.


Lori

[This message has been edited by MsLoriFiero (edited 05-03-2006).]

quote Originally posted by fierodave: Tim harvey - eBay user ID: th-1 Buyer email: tharvey@dccnet.com http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=th-1 Interesting.

bump - to keep this on top....

quote Originally posted by MsLoriFiero: If there is anyone wanting to buy these misprinted windows for $150 a pair, plus $18 shipping please PM me. This is what is wrong with them. the dot matrix got printed to far forward and the front edge got cut off, other than that they are fine, and they do not come pre scratched. Lori

Do you have any other misfits? Id take some of these defective windows or whatever, but Id prefer a little more defective price . I need a nice set or two in the future, but in the mean time, I have another car that doesnt have any windows what so ever that I would like to get some on.