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[This message has been edited by F-I-E-R-O (edited 07-28-2005).]

nice man ....u have talent ...i was intersted in photoshop in school but umm ya ...seem to spend my useless time other places ...but ya if i had paypal i would send ya a few bucks to make me one .....well good luck and i might just drop you a PM for a sig ...but keep up the good work ..you should maybe go into making like full blown pics or posters even ... could make some money ..i think californiakid has a huge good rez poster ..anyways good luck man

matt

its good u consider yourself professional, hell of an idea, and some very good work. to think u do this all alone. Ill prolly drop yah aline sometime for one in a couple of weeks, but first i have to like you said, work on my car..... keep up the good work

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Tyler, 85 GT

I'm glad I messed up on the one above! Apparently, I managed to combine two different sigs into one. Here's what I came up with instead once I got it figured out...

quote Originally posted by F-I-E-R-O:

hahah thats so awsome!

hey, you should be putting your name an a copyright on your pics, just really tiny and in the corner...
If your not already

I guess the one above is one that I'm suppose to fix... but I've got some others that I really need to finish before going back to that one. Thanks for the feedback. I would ask that anyone who has something negative to say PLEASE say it or at least PM me. I'd really like to know what would look better or what could be done to improve what's getting thrown out here. Thanks

Hey F-I-E-R-O, you do great work.

Watch out for copyright law!

It really shouldn't be an issue for something like this though I will be cautious about what get's used...

"While copyright law makes it technically illegal to reproduce almost any new creative work (other than under fair use) without permission, if the work is unregistered and has no real commercial value, it gets very little protection. The author in this case can sue for an injunction against the publication, actual damages from a violation, and possibly court costs. Actual damages means actual money potentially lost by the author due to publication, plus any money gained by the defendant. But if a work has no commercial value, such as a typical E-mail message or conversational USENET posting, the actual damages will be zero. Only the most vindictive (and rich) author would sue when no damages are possible, and the courts don't look kindly on vindictive plaintiffs, unless the defendants are even more vindictive"

Thanks for the heads up and concern though!

Wow... and to think I made all those great sigs for free - and I could've been charging for them all along. Maybe I'd have had my engine swap done by now! (for my "portfolio" click here and scroll down about 1/2 page).

In any case, people seem to be leaning more and more towards (what I consider) cluttered collages. I've always been one to prefer a "cleaner" & simpler design - as it communicates a simple message quickly. But again... that's just me.

Not to slam you F-I-E-R-O, but I guess that seems a bit "off" to me - maybe that makes me an "old timer" around here (...I remember when we used to make sigs for each other just because we were asked...). But I guess if people are willing to pay you, then more power to you! Good Luck!

quote Originally posted by MinnGreenGT: Not to slam you F-I-E-R-O, but I guess that seems a bit "off" to me - maybe that makes me an "old timer" around here (...I remember when we used to make sigs for each other just because we were asked...). But I guess if people are willing to pay you, then more power to you! Good Luck!

I took a look at what you were talking about and I see what you mean. Don't worry, I didn't take it as a slam and I'm glad to have the feedback. My goal is only to help create a place where when someone visits, they see a forum that looks awesome. I'm not into the clutter thing either, and adhere to the philosophy that less is more. I'm not going to debate a contribution for my time, if there is anyone out there who would like my to try a sig for them I'm more than happy to donate my time as well. But, I do have to add that I try to give as much thought and research into putting something together as I can, hoping that I can achieve something more than just a username and a bunch of smooshed together photos.

F-I-E-R-O

I have sent you a PM

OK! OK! I got it!

quote Originally posted by F-I-E-R-O:I'm glad I messed up on the one above! Apparently, I managed to combine two different sigs into one. Here's what I came up with instead once I got it figured out...

Nice work Andrew! My wife loves it as well!

quote Originally posted by MinnGreenGT: Wow... and to think I made all those great sigs for free - and I could've been charging for them all along. Maybe I'd have had my engine swap done by now! (for my "portfolio" click here and scroll down about 1/2 page). In any case, people seem to be leaning more and more towards (what I consider) cluttered collages. I've always been one to prefer a "cleaner" & simpler design - as it communicates a simple message quickly. But again... that's just me. Not to slam you F-I-E-R-O, but I guess that seems a bit "off" to me - maybe that makes me an "old timer" around here (...I remember when we used to make sigs for each other just because we were asked...). But I guess if people are willing to pay you, then more power to you! Good Luck!

As a maker of about 50 or 60 sig files for people, what he said.

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I give up. I'll finish the ones I've started and that's it. Didn't think this was going to be such a big deal, sorry.

Andrew

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85 SE (My first love)
84 Indy 4 Speed
84 Indy Auto 44,000 miles

[This message has been edited by ohioindy (edited 07-27-2005).]

quote Originally posted by AusFiero: As a maker of about 50 or 60 sig files for people, what he said.

If you have an Aus sig, I'd be interested in seeing his work.

No way F-i-e-r-o keep going! Don't let it bother you what these people say. If someone wants your work let 'em seek you out. MinnGT - your work is okay, some are very cool, others are a bit too simple for my taste. They are good for free, though. This guy's work looks more professional in my opinion, more polished and complete. It's great you did all those for free for people, but why rag on this guy, what's it to you if he's an enterprising dude?

Not knowing how to even get to "photoshop" never mind using it....I surely appreciate the sigs that have been made for me for free. I plan on keeping them along with the one I had Andrew make me and I will rotate them every few weeks or so. The thing is when someone makes you a sig for free I don't want to harass them for perfection like I was able to do with Andrew because that's what I paid for....and he came through! Keep it up enterprising dude

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quote Originally posted by F-I-E-R-O: In fact, Aus: please post some of the SIGs you've done, I'd like to see your work...

Ok, now to find them all. Organised hard drives here. Not.

I know, hard to tell but yes that is a zipper on the hood...

A zipper? Interesting. It's getting closer... but not quite there yet. Perhaps the black and a 308 pointing nose to nose with something similar.
<shrug>

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-Nickster

I had no intent on stopping F-I-E-R-O's enterprising spirit. I also had no intention of replying again to this thread, as I felt I had stated my opinion clearly, kindly, and neutrally - and it had been replied to by the thread's originator.

...but this warrants a response.

quote Originally posted by countach711: No way F-i-e-r-o keep going! Don't let it bother you what these people say. If someone wants your work let 'em seek you out.

I agree - as I stated in my post... if people are willing to pay for your work, by all means keep it up!

quote MinnGT - your work is okay, some are very cool, others are a bit too simple for my taste. They are good for free, though. This guy's work looks more professional in my opinion, more polished and complete.

"Good for Free?" Wow! That's a first... I'm a professional graphic designer (of nearly 10 years). I spend 8-10 hours every day working in PhotoShop, Illustrator, InDesign, QuarkXPress, etc. I've designed projects for companies as small as the ministry down the street, and as large as companies like Reebok. <Shrug> If you don't like a clean, simple, professional design (much as AusFiero, Reality, & myself work toward) - but instead prefer a layered collage... then you're easy to please. Honestly, anyone with a layer-capable graphics editor can layer & blend edges. It takes more knowledge of any program to move beyond that (and this is not directed at F-I-E-R-O, as I have seen some of his examples touch on better techniques). I feel that the reason for a sig image to is give each member a unique identity that can be easily recognized... and since this is a Fiero-based forum, it's the obivious answer. I don't feel the need to communicate my profession, location, family, political or religous affiliation, etc... in my signature.

...But to say that his are "more professional, polished, and complete" is IMHO truly your opinion. Thanks.

quote It's great you did all those for free for people, but why rag on this guy, what's it to you if he's an enterprising dude?

I wasn't ragging on him. I simply stated that had I "sold" my skills to this community, then I'd have a little more cash in my pocket. Personally I feel that this community has given enough back to me, that a few minutes of my time every now & then to create custom signatures... is a small return of many favors over time.

[This message has been edited by F-I-E-R-O (edited 07-29-2005).]

Just because someones a professional doesnt mean anything. Professional just means you can get paid for sh!tty work LOL.

Just like the "I went to school at engine-builders-r-us" so I know what Im talking about.

Just because you have credentials doesnt mean youre better at it or know what youre talking about over a "non-professional"

Ive met plenty of Bartenders with BA degrees LOL

Keep up the good work Andy.

If me sending you some $$$ will get that FWD SUCKS sig done sooner let me know .

DelawareFiero,That was uncalled for!

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Question my ability,question my intelligence,never question my integrity!

quote Originally posted by hugh: DelawareFiero,That was uncalled for!

In what way?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DelawareFiero:

Professional just means you can get paid for sh!tty work LOL.

Just like the "I went to school at engine-builders-r-us" so I know what Im talking about.

Just because you have credentials doesnt mean youre better at it or know what youre talking about over a "non-professional"

The inference is there that professionals(in any business)can get away with anything if they use the label Professional,if that were the case,they would be Professionally unemployed once people found they weren't competent in their chosen field.

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Hugh you've been around long enough to know that there are "pros" that know what they are doing and then there are ones that have no clue. Thats all I was saying. To think that there are "pros" that dont do a good job and are out of business is living in fantasy land.

I'm not going to keep this going any longer than this reply.That may have been what you meant,but that is not what you said.

"professonal just means you can get paid for sh!tty work LOL"{

Nice artwork. I'm overdue for a decent sig. I'll be in touch.

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quote Originally posted by hugh: I'm not going to keep this going any longer than this reply.That may have been what you meant,but that is not what you said. "professonal just means you can get paid for sh!tty work LOL"{

I meant it both ways, or whatever point youre trying to make. Truth hurts, lifes a B!TCH, get over it

Did you get mine done yet ????

quote Originally posted by F-I-E-R-O:

That is the funniest thing I have ever seen on here....ROFLMAO!!

Good luck with your sig business.....you are quite talented.