Update: I did not receive the radios today (Wednesday) like I thought I would. I am sure they will be here tomorrow, but I'm going to get a tracking number from my supplier and make sure. I have the boxes addressed and ready to go. I should be able to turn the radios around as soon as they get here. I did order a second batch of 7 radios, but they are all spoken for as well. I will be ordering more once I get through the orders I currently have. If you're interested, stay tuned... Thanks for your patience. -Kevin

did they show up today kru?

I've got radios!! Unfortunately I was only able to get a few ready in time to get out tonight. I decided to take the time to hook them all up on my workbench (kitchen counter) and make sure they worked and that the TheftLoc was deactivated. I found one that was locked, so I saved one person some effort by taking care of the deactivation process. (I also found that two of the units still had CDs in them, so my music collection has just been expanded with the timeless classics Soulfly: Primitive and the Dr Doolittle Soundtrack...)

Anyway, I got them sent out to the first few people who paid. I will be emailing you separately to let you know your tracking number.

Thanks again for your patience.

This is just like the lottery. Waiting...waiting...waiting.

You have mail.

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And tho' the night seems long, Your tears won't fall forever.

Not quite the same payoff...but better odds.

Hey kru
I shot you an email with regards to a radio. just wondering if I can claim one for myself. I have cash awaiting your response

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Well, all of them I have are already spoken for. I have 20 more on the way, of which, about 5 are spoken for. So...that leaves me with approximately 15 units that will be for sale. I was going to go through my email when I receive the rest of them and contact everyone who said they were interested. But, if you want to send the money now, you can. Email me at:

radios@replacementradios.com

for the payment details. I accept PayPal and money orders. Thanks. -Kevin

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kru,

Just a tip for you (and those who have bought the radios) - to install the UP3 radio in a Fiero without the Performance Sound system (sub-woofer), nothing needs to be done other than just plugging in the harness and antenna adapter.

To install in a Fiero with the Performance Sound System, there is one modification that needs to be made. You will need to cut the two pink wires which lead from the amplifier (under the carpet on the right side of the car next to the console support in the passenger footwell), strip appx. 1/2" to expose the wire and twist them together. Then locate a yellow wire from the car harness (not from the radio harness) and splice the pink wires to the yellow wire. You can do this by scraping off a section of the covering of the yellow wire without having to cut that one). The reason for doing this is because the pink wires will mate to blue wires in the radio harness - these are used for power antennas on some cars and do not have enough power to operate the sub-woofer amp. If you don't make this modification your sub will sound like a beating heart when you play the radio or CD unit.

It's a simple mod but it makes all the difference in the world!!

I hope this helps.........

[This message has been edited by tgowens (edited 11-08-2002).]

Thanks for this info.... I have the factory sub, and will want it to work with the CD player

quote Originally posted by tgowens: kru, Just a tip for you (and those who have bought the radios) - to install the UP3 radio in a Fiero without the Performance Sound system (sub-woofer), nothing needs to be done other than just plugging in the harness and antenna adapter. To install in a Fiero with the Performance Sound System, there is one modification that needs to be made. You will need to cut the two pink wires which lead from the amplifier (under the carpet on the right side of the car next to the console support in the passenger footwell), strip appx. 1/2" to expose the wire and twist them together. Then locate a yellow wire from the car harness (not from the radio harness) and splice the pink wires to the yellow wire. You can do this by scraping off a section of the covering of the yellow wire without having to cut that one). The reason for doing this is because the pink wires will mate to blue wires in the radio harness - these are used for power antennas on some cars and do not have enough power to operate the sub-woofer amp. If you don't make this modification your sub will sound like a beating heart when you play the radio or CD unit. It's a simple mod but it makes all the difference in the world!! I hope this helps......... [This message has been edited by tgowens (edited 11-08-2002).]

tgowens, that's the second time I get to thank you for helping me out in this thread. I've had a couple people ask me about the sub and all I had been able to tell them was, "I hear it's a simple mod, but I don't know what's involved."

One question, by splicing the two pink wires together, are you saying that they are to be cut from the harness all together, or are you saying that all four (2 cut wires) of the pink wires are connected to the yellow wire.

Just want to make sure I understand before starting the modification.

topcat, the harness leading from the amp has a plug which plugs into the radio harness. The pink wires can be cut about an inch from this plug. The pink wires coming from the plug can then be stubbed off. Splice the remaining two wires (the ones coming directly from the amp) to the yellow wire coming in from the car harness under the dash - this wire is hot in "run" and "accessory" positions. This way the amp only has power when the radio is on.

Just stub off the ends from the plug and splice the two from the amp to the yellow wire.

I hope this helps....

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Yep, that helps quite a bit. Thanks for the help, and a thumbs up!

I forgot to tell you about a couple of other little tricks you need to do....... if you are having trouble inserting the blue plug into the back of the radio, insert a small flat blade screwdriver between the receptacle and the radio body and twist slightly to allow the plug to latch into the receptacle. If you don't get the plug inserted properly it can vibrate loose and you will have intermittent power to the radio and you will have to remove the radio and start all over again.

The next thing is this - when you remove the stock radio you will see a triangular shaped bracket with a hole in it in the rear of the radio compartment. This is held to the console support by two metal rivits. You will need to insert a large flat blade screwdriver or small pry bar between the bracket and the console support and twist to pop out the bracket. It is not needed with the newer UP3 radio and failure to remove this bracket will cause it to press against the plug in the back of the radio and dislodge the plug (the plug on the newer UP3 radio is horizontally mounted whereas the plug on the older stock radio was mounted vertically and was not contacted by the bracket when in place). Also remember, by adding the newer wiring harness adapter you will have more wiring in place behind the radio. Do yourself a favor and remove the bracket before installing the new radio.

And last, when you install the new radio you will need to put spacers behind the radio brackets as you mount it to the console support with the 7mm screws. I use the small spark plug separators which are about 1/8" thick. This will allow the radio to be mounted flush with the trim plate when it is installed. Not putting the spacers on the mounting screws behind the brackets will cause a 1/8" gap between the trim plate and the face of the radio......

I hope this helps.......

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[This message has been edited by tgowens (edited 11-12-2002).]

For those of you still waiting on the second batch of radios, they will be going out today via FedEx Ground. I will email each of you individually with your tracking numbers. I apologize for the delay. The radios were late getting to me and FedEx Ground was not open on Saturday.

For those of you still interested in ordering, I have about 10 more CD/radio packages available and I still have the one cassette/radio package. Email me at radios@replacementradios.com for payment details. I accept PayPal (at that email address) and money orders. Email me for a quote if you're in Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico or Canada, as it will be higher.

[This message has been edited by kru (edited 11-22-2004).]

Hey kru can you get other types of Pontiac CD players also? I am interested in one like the picture posted by Poncho Jim in this thread www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/028487.html
If so how much? Thanks
Jon Steckelberg

I can get that kind. It's from a Pontiac from the early 90's. Only problem is they're harder to find (especially in good condition) because there weren't NEARLY as many of them made. As a result, the price is actually going to be $50-$75 more than the package I've been selling here. Let me know if you're still interested and I can track one down and let you know the actual price. Like I said though, plan on $200, at a minimum.

Thanks for the quick reply. I think I will have to pass for now. May be purchasing a second fiero so no cash!
Jon Steckelberg

**UPDATE**

I have filled all orders that I have received to date. I still have about 15 more CD/radio packages available, so I am taking orders again.

[This message has been edited by kru (edited 11-05-2003).]

I just received one of these radios and it is nice....I am having a little trouble installing so I thought I would ask for help.

The only plug that will go in from the wiring harness converter is the long black horizonal plug....the speaker wires... the power plug plugs in separately ok. The other blue plug does not plug into the radio and there is another capped wire on the wiring adapter that I dont know where it goes. The radio clock comes on but that is all. I must be screwing up the connection but I dont know where.. help!!

cscougar, read what I wrote above about using a small screwdriver to assist in getting the blue plug in place...

Also, the extra plug you are seeing is not used in the Fiero application. This adapter harness is used for applications in other cars as well. You will only use the long flat balack plug, the blue plug and the white (with brown and orange wires) plug......

I hope this helps.....

Tgowens.....I just sent you a pm....

Ted

Ted,

Well......... I don't know that I would have clipped the latch off of that blue plug....... do this, after you insert the blue plug, wrap several turns of electrical tape around the wiring of the blue and black plugs - this will hold the blue plug in place better. If that one vibrates loose under driving conditions you will lose powere to the radio or at the least, have intermittent problems.... I hate to tell ya but that latch was on there for a reason.......

Here's my $.02:
I've used little washers to bring the radios flush with the console faceplate. The spacers tgowens uses are probably better, but six or seven washers work too. Also, I have never had any trouble w/ the plugs going in. They always fit in without cutting any tabs.
I also never broke out the triangular metal piece- no problems yet, although it's not a bad idea.

Good luck

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I just installed on of the UP3 Pontiac Cd Players/w EQ I bought from kru.

The radio and cd work perfectly and the radio looked like it just came out of the box. Excellent shape.

The only trouble was the blue plug on the wiring adapter and that had to be trimmed a little to fit the slot on the radio. No big problem at all.

I was on the first load that were shipped out...just to let everyone know that you are buying a great product that is very much as advertised.

Ted

i did this setup and went out to the junk yard and removes the radio plug from a later gm. they used a blue or gray plug that has no lock but it snaps onto the black plug and then both plugs are inserted into the back of the radio. using a tool i got from snap -on i swapped the wires. maybe a pain but it is the plug that that was made for the later units. using my dial calipers to measure both radios i came up with needing a 5/32" or 4mm spacer to get it flush with the face plate. the tool lets you remove wires from most of the plugs on the fieros an the fork is for pulling the codes from the ecm.
hope this helps.
ken
first pic is the gm adapter
second, gray and black plug snapped together
third, newer style blue plug
fourth, wire tool, $15 from snap-on.

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..where the heck did i put my glasses now....can't see a damn thing ....

I must have the same prescription as you...

If you happen to get in any more of the CD/radios let me know...I am interested Thanks

Thanks to all that have submitted tips on instaling this radio. I recieved mine in the mail today (thanks Kru) and I can not wait to get it installed. It looks great but without the tips for installing, I would have been stumped. Especially in regards to the only plugs being used are the long black one, the blue one, and the white one.

It will probably be this weekend before I can get mine installed.

Cheers

I've also received mine from Kru. Looks like a brand new unit! Fortunately for me, it's going into my wife's 94 Grand Prix, which already has the same radio except for her's is cassette instead of CD. I don't have to mess with the adapters. Then...I get HER radio for my Fiero, which already has the same style radio, except that it doesn't have the graphic equalizer. All my work has already been done FOR me...Hehehehehe....

As of right now, I have four packages boxed up and ready to go out to a good home. All I need is payment and an address to send them to. I have 8 more radios on their way to me and will be ordering even more tomorrow.

[This message has been edited by kru (edited 11-05-2003).]

Well I was just too anxious to get mine installed, so I went out with a flashlight and my tool box. The connectors were pretty straight forward. I did have to use a small screwdriver to "pry" the blue connector in, but it was not at all that hard once I got the screw driver between the connector and the radio. It snapped right in. My factory sub did not need the wire alteration that Terry described earlier... Not sure why, but it works just as great as it did with the factory radio. I do have to remove the small triangle mount in the back of the console to keep from having to force the radio to fit without crushing the wire harness. It is too dark out right now, so it will have to wait till the weekend, but so far so good. Having the factory looking CD palyer is a definite plus, and will make long trips, or just cruising around town a little more pleasant.

Thanks to Kevin, Terry and partfiero for the tips

Thanks kru! FedEx delivered and boy are these nice!

Question for the group though: I am having a real pain trying to get that blue connector connected. Read the posts about the screwdriver trick, but it looks like I'd damage the plug or receptacle. That receptacle will withstand a pretty good amount of twisting...managed to install it without breaking it!

Can't wait til Sat to hear it. Thanks again Kevin.

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FYI - It has come to my attention that some of these CD players may have trouble reading certain types of CDRs. I had one unit that was giving me an E20 error, which is a "focus" error. Turns out it was just that particular CDR it couldn't read. It read several different original CDs and some different CDRs just fine, but it couldn't read that one CDR. (It was a Verbatim and I don't know what software was used to burn it because it was a CD I found in one of the units during testing.)

Anyway, I did some research on the web and there are a couple different theories as to why this happens. One is that certain brands of CDRs just won't play in certain players. Another is that the software you use to burn the CDs may affect the players ability to read the disc. The last is that it's a combination of both things. I'm not sure which is the right answer, but if you burn a lot of CDRs, it's something to be aware of.

Not a big deal, I wouldn't say, since I only found this on one unit and it would play regular CDs and most other CDRs fine. (I use Easy CD Creator, by the way.) If you have a CDR it won't play, just burn it again using a different software or a different brand of CDR that you know works in the player.