I mask them off so that there will not be a lot of powder on the fins. Then I use a fine belt on the belt sander and "grain" the top. It looks similar to stainless steel that way. I have tried polishing them to a higher gloss, but the quality of the alliminum does not look good that way.
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Jun 7th, 2005
achbaby Member
Posts: 454 From: Wind Gap, PA. Registered: May 2005
Hi i'm new to the forum but must say your work looks awesome. I was wondering if anybody had any engraved plenums without that dam little hole in the neck of the plenum and would like to sell one of them. My 87GT with 49K on it is one of the few V6's i have owned without that little hole. But i want to ship my plenum and Tbody out to D.Morse so i need a spare. Once i get them back a was wondering what you would charge to have the valve covers, plenum, and Tbody powdercoated. Also if you would strip the valve covers and plenum as well; if so include that in your price. Not to be a pain in the ass, but do you also polish the ribs on the valve covers and plenum? The ruby red looks great. I just need a price on what things would cost and one i get them back from Darrell, i'm in! thx!!!
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Electrathon Member
Posts: 5234 From: Gresham, OR USA Registered: Dec 2002
Hi i'm new to the forum but must say your work looks awesome. I was wondering if anybody had any engraved plenums without that dam little hole in the neck of the plenum and would like to sell one of them. My 87GT with 49K on it is one of the few V6's i have owned without that little hole. But i want to ship my plenum and Tbody out to D.Morse so i need a spare. Once i get them back a was wondering what you would charge to have the valve covers, plenum, and Tbody powdercoated. Also if you would strip the valve covers and plenum as well; if so include that in your price. Not to be a pain in the ass, but do you also polish the ribs on the valve covers and plenum? The ruby red looks great. I just need a price on what things would cost and one i get them back from Darrell, i'm in! thx!!!
Post a new thread in the mall onder want to buy to see if you can find an upper plenum. I am not sure what you mean about the hole though...
If you are sending the throttle body to Darrell, have him send it back coated. I can't do it once it has been assembled.
I will do your valve covers and upper plenum for $70. $20 more if I strip it (it is not worth even trying for $20, but some people are persistant). I have valve covers for a core, but no engraved plenum cores (i do have unengraved, but they are less cool to most). $20 shipping on the three parts.
I "grain" the ribbs, very similar to the origional appearance. I mask them to keep the powder off, then use a fine belt on the belt sander to shine them. Generally they do not look very good if you try to polish the alluminum to a high gloss.
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Jun 8th, 2005
achbaby Member
Posts: 454 From: Wind Gap, PA. Registered: May 2005
Yeah for 20.00 bucks what the heck, that's cheap enough for me; i can't see who would want to go through that trouble just to save 20 bucks. I will definitly send you those things once i get an engraved plenum. You do nice work and your prices are very reasonable. thx
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achbaby Member
Posts: 454 From: Wind Gap, PA. Registered: May 2005
Also, will you do the deck vents off an 87GT. I wanted to get them coated red. $$??
I have had a few people ask me about doing these. Let me do a set up for my car in the next few days and I will get a price. There are a lot of anoying little places to make sure gets coated on these.
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FieroGTRwideboby Member
Posts: 591 From: Socal (Pasadena) Registered: Jun 2004
Electrathon, I sent you a PM and in it I wanted to know if you can do these parts for me and how much it will cost: smoked chrome 2.8 air tubes smoked chrome alternator bracket smoked chrome throttle body smoked chrome cold air intake tube (metal) smoked chrome thermostat fill neck (tube) smoked chrome alternator casing semi or gloss BLK wipers semi or gloss BLK GT engine Grills semi or gloss BLK side view mirrors semi or gloss BLK drip rails red calipers
Thanks A lot Alex
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ziggy Member
Posts: 50 From: Lehighton, PA Registered: Jul 2004
I sent you a PM and in it I wanted to know if you can do these parts for me and how much it will cost: Sorry, I got sidetracked and didn't respond. I am assuming that you are sending me all of these parts?
smoked chrome 2.8 air tubes $7.50 each smoked chrome alternator bracket $7.50 smoked chrome throttle body Can't do it, have Darrell Morse bore and coat it. smoked chrome cold air intake tube (metal) $10 smoked chrome thermostat fill neck (tube) $7.50 smoked chrome alternator casing $15, I can press out the bearings, recomend as a good time to replace them. semi or gloss BLK wipers $7.50 each semi or gloss BLK GT engine Grills I have not done a set of these yet, but I think they will be a pain. I will try a set in a few days. semi or gloss BLK side view mirrors $15 each semi or gloss BLK drip rails $7.50 each red calipers $10 each. I will not reasemble them for liability reasons. I have GM rebuild kits, they are not really that hard to do. The fronts are very easy, the rears do take some mechanical experience, but not that bad.
Plus shipping
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FieroGTRwideboby Member
Posts: 591 From: Socal (Pasadena) Registered: Jun 2004
Thanks Electrathon That sounds great, I will be sending you all the cores. I just need to get my cold air intake and other parts. I will let you know when I am ready to send the stuff. How long does it usually take to prep, powder coats and send out the parts. Thanks alot.
Alex
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Electrathon Member
Posts: 5234 From: Gresham, OR USA Registered: Dec 2002
Remember I do this as a hobby in my free time, so I don't have all day to work on things. Generally if I am sent one or two parts, they will be done in a couple days (depending on other life issues that come up). A batch this big can take up to a couple weeks.
The prep work is what takes all the time. I sandblast everything to make sure there is proper adheasion. You need to clean (degrease) all the parts prior to shipping. I will do the stripping.
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03:10 PM
achbaby Member
Posts: 454 From: Wind Gap, PA. Registered: May 2005
keep me posted on the engine grills. If they come out nice but are a pain in the ass to do, charge me extra; i'll pay. I just get sick of painting them each year. thx
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Jun 10th, 2005
FieroGTRwideboby Member
Posts: 591 From: Socal (Pasadena) Registered: Jun 2004
Electrathon I have a sand blaster, I wouldn't mind sandblasting all the parts for you. I know it would save you time so, if it would help I can do that to prep them. Thanks
Alex
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Jun 11th, 2005
Electrathon Member
Posts: 5234 From: Gresham, OR USA Registered: Dec 2002
Electrathon I have a sand blaster, I wouldn't mind sandblasting all the parts for you. I know it would save you time so, if it would help I can do that to prep them. Thanks
Alex
Yes, sandblasting would really speed it up. Keep in mind that the parts must be spotless. Every spec of paint that is left will be a spot that the powder will not stick. Even if you just get most of it off I can quickly do the finish work.
Aaron
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FieroGTRwideboby Member
Posts: 591 From: Socal (Pasadena) Registered: Jun 2004
Electrathon Cool I'll do my best to clean the as good as possible for you , I am only waiting for a couple parts and I will get them done before I send them. Thanks and I will let you know befor I send anything to make sure you are ready. Thanks
Alex
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Jun 30th, 2005
Electrathon Member
Posts: 5234 From: Gresham, OR USA Registered: Dec 2002
Any luck on those deck vents?? I know you had said you would try a set first. Was it possible to do? Let me know? Also do you have gloss black wiper arms ready to go. If so can i buy a set already done without a core. $?
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Jul 1st, 2005
Electrathon Member
Posts: 5234 From: Gresham, OR USA Registered: Dec 2002
Any luck on those deck vents?? I know you had said you would try a set first. Was it possible to do? Let me know? Also do you have gloss black wiper arms ready to go. If so can i buy a set already done without a core. $?
I sandblasted for an hour today till I gave up. I'll finish it up tomorrow and coat it and see how it comes out.
I can do a set of wiper arms in gloss, $20 shipped for a pair, I have a couple extra sets at this time so not too big of a deal on the core
Ok great. Can i send you a money order for 20 bucks? 20.00 shipped without a core? If so can you send me a mailing address? As far as the deck vents, count me in if your successful coating them. I have a spare pair to send that have never been painted and are in nice shape with the paint fading. So they might be easier to strip. Just give me a price on coating them with a bright red and i will ship them along with the money for the wiper arms. thx
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Jul 5th, 2005
achbaby Member
Posts: 454 From: Wind Gap, PA. Registered: May 2005
I did one. It took me over an hour and a half to get the paint off. Coated it last night. It looks good, but I had outgass reactions. It also had pitting from years of corosion eating away at it. With hindsight, I should have done it in semi-gloss rather than gloss, which is much more forgiving when working over old, pitted parts.
I am going to put one in the oven on clean and see if it can take the heat. If so, the paint will come off much easier.
I am looking for a price on an engraved plenum in the highest gloss black you can find...90% or more. I have the plenum but it will need to be blasted and coated. PM me.
Many Thanks,
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10:00 PM
Jul 6th, 2005
Electrathon Member
Posts: 5234 From: Gresham, OR USA Registered: Dec 2002
That's kewl. I strip mine and then send them out to you. Give me a price to do a stripped pair. Also i need a price again to strip a set of valve covers and plenum and have them coated. thx
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Jul 8th, 2005
achbaby Member
Posts: 454 From: Wind Gap, PA. Registered: May 2005
That's kewl. I strip mine and then send them out to you. Give me a price to do a stripped pair. Also i need a price again to strip a set of valve covers and plenum and have them coated. thx
If they come to me stripped, I will do the prebake and coating and return shipping for $55.
I have a set of wiper arms done in gloss black.
I will do the valve covers and all plenums for $100, plus $20 more if I strip them. Generally about $20 more return shipping. I have many colors, but prefer "ruby red".
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achbaby Member
Posts: 454 From: Wind Gap, PA. Registered: May 2005
So that would be 140.00 with shipping for the plenum and valve covers. Plus 55.00 for the deck vents. Plus whatever the cost of the wiper arm are. I think they were 15.00 for a set. Just out of curiousity, you gave me a quote earlier (pg 4 of this topic) for 70.00 to do the plenum and valve covers plus 20.00 to strip them and 20.00 to ship. A total of 110.00. I don't have a problem with 30 extra bucks; because your work is top notch. I was just wondering if your prices went up. Not a big deal just curious. Also is the ruby red more of a red or orangish red? thx
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Electrathon Member
Posts: 5234 From: Gresham, OR USA Registered: Dec 2002
The $100 was to do the complete intake and valve covers. $70 if I just do the upper plenum and valve covers.
I have had to raise prices a little, but have kept this one the same.
The ruby red is more of a true red than the origional. There is a color called vermilion that is similar to the origional. I generally use ruby red becaues I like the look far better. I can do it in either color though.
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Jul 9th, 2005
achbaby Member
Posts: 454 From: Wind Gap, PA. Registered: May 2005
I will just be sending the upper engraved plenum and valve covers; my bad. Do you think it would look that much better sending out the the whole intake. I like the ruby red for the engine. As for the deck vents, i need a red that would be closer to the red you might see on a viper; i did my calipers with the paint kit for 39.99 from Eastbay; i just want the vents to match that somewhat. What do you think? Do you do anything with metallic flec?
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Electrathon Member
Posts: 5234 From: Gresham, OR USA Registered: Dec 2002
The lower intake looks very good done, a clean look. Personally, I would not go to the work of pulling it off unless it was for another reason though.
I have been using all Eastwood powders and have good luck with them. It is very hard to judge colors on the web, there are so many variables. You can go to their site and see what they have. I would hate to try and match something and miss though.
There is a metalic additive available. So far I have never tried it. It is about $10 for enough additave to add into a half paund of powder, and I don't know how it looks when sprayed. It possibly might take away from the smoothness too. Just not sure about it.
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02:31 PM
achbaby Member
Posts: 454 From: Wind Gap, PA. Registered: May 2005
Yes i ment Eastwood. A typo, sorry. The only reason i have the plenum off is to refinish it and have it honed by darrell morse. I wasnted to let you know i have to ship my plenum out to him next week. As soon as i get it back i will get it to you.
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Electrathon Member
Posts: 5234 From: Gresham, OR USA Registered: Dec 2002