Yes there is a way to do it with out damaging anything. Brace the backside to the bucket around where the adjustment screw enters the plastic holder. Then from the front push on the front of the screw with a steady but strong force to get it to pop out. I made myself a pair of pliers. The upper jaw has a cross-tip bit welded to it and the other jaw I drilled a U shaped cut out that fits around the screw. Then I slowly press the screw out.
p.s. If you need to do this sometime in the future then make sure you remove the lamp first by unlocking the attachment locks that hold the adjustment screws to the light housing. Give then a twist so they line up with the slots in the housing ears then remove the housing. That leaves just the screws still in the plastic holders and gives you a lot of room to work.
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PLEASE hold that one for me. I will be purchasing soon. Tax return should be in by the 22nd at the latest (according to the tax company since I e-filed)
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tmur115 Member
Posts: 888 From: Battle Ground WA Registered: Jan 2006
Yes there is a way to do it with out damaging anything. Brace the backside to the bucket around where the adjustment screw enters the plastic holder. Then from the front push on the front of the screw with a steady but strong force to get it to pop out. I made myself a pair of pliers. The upper jaw has a cross-tip bit welded to it and the other jaw I drilled a U shaped cut out that fits around the screw. Then I slowly press the screw out.
p.s. If you need to do this sometime in the future then make sure you remove the lamp first by unlocking the attachment locks that hold the adjustment screws to the light housing. Give then a twist so they line up with the slots in the housing ears then remove the housing. That leaves just the screws still in the plastic holders and gives you a lot of room to work.
Yeah, it was all going so well and then I broke one of the plastic bucket shaped holders. Only one, but it is enough to keep me from finishing them.
On another note, I installed one of the buckets to test it. It doesn't want to go up and down in a normal manner. It looks and sounds like the mounting posts are rubbing against the headlight door. Do I need to move the top outer posts to a bottom location? What can I do to help it go up and down with the least amount of resistance?
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The plastic retainers are available seperately from anywhere you can order Hella equipment.
Relocating the screws is a good option. The adjustment screws are VERY long, a lot longer than needed. I just removed the last 1/3 or the screw with a dremel.
Don't know if anyone already posted this, I'm a newby here. I found an Ebay store called PTC Factory Outlet that has the Hella 90mm high and low lamps listed for $45 each plus shipping. I called them up (770-486-5668) to verify the adjusters were included too and they sure are. As long as I was on the phone I ordered two highs and two lows on the spot, total came to $190 with shipping. That was even better than their Ebay store total price so I'd recommend placing the order on the phone. They had everything on stock and told me my order would ship today!! It's a lot better deal than Susquehanna is offering. You still need to buy connectors though.
Don't know if anyone already posted this, I'm a newby here. I found an Ebay store called PTC Factory Outlet that has the Hella 90mm high and low lamps listed for $45 each plus shipping. I called them up (770-486-5668) to verify the adjusters were included too and they sure are. As long as I was on the phone I ordered two highs and two lows on the spot, total came to $190 with shipping. That was even better than their Ebay store total price so I'd recommend placing the order on the phone. They had everything on stock and told me my order would ship today!! It's a lot better deal than Susquehanna is offering. You still need to buy connectors though.
Sounds like a good deal. Thanks for the info.
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DIY_Stu Member
Posts: 2337 From: Republic of TX Registered: Jun 2007
I found an Ebay store called PTC Factory Outlet ...
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Speaking of good deals I think I found where I'm finally going to get my lights!
Same place. That said, Susquehanna Motor Sports has been around for many years and has a proven track record as a full-service supplier, while PTC is pretty new. It's your choice whether the difference in price is worth the possible risk of an eBay-only vendor.
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Synthesis Member
Posts: 12207 From: Jordan, MN Registered: Feb 2002
Same place. That said, Susquehanna Motor Sports has been around for many years and has a proven track record as a full-service supplier, while PTC is pretty new. It's your choice whether the difference in price is worth the possible risk of an eBay-only vendor.
I understand that. PTC shipped my lights 30 minutes after I completed my order. UPS notified me I would have them on April 1st.
did you get yours yet? I was wondering about ordering from them after checking out their website, and seeing that they sell seconds and returns (along with new ) .... please post pics..
I know I'm late to the party, but wondering when you are going to make the next batch of brackets? I would like to order a pair for my 88GT. I've ordered a harness from Synthesis already and should get it in a month or so. I went to your web site and emailed you a couple of questions. Please let me know.
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Larry Nakamura Member
Posts: 412 From: Clearlake, California, USA Registered: Jul 2003
I just odrered the Hella 90mm from TPC and the price total was $188.95. (2 high and 2 low beam modules). They said the price has gone up to $52 a light, but I was able to get them for the $45 a module still, by telling him the ebay still had them for $45. Just wanted to let everyone know the info....
The H6054s range in wattage from 55 watt to 65 watt depending on brand. I believe they use the same for both high and low.
Actually the stock style headlights are dual filiment. Low beam is 35W high beam is 55W. (some brands up the high beam wattage but low beam stays at 35W.)
I put these in my '86 GT almost a year ago and they are great.
I do have one question though. Does anyone have any tips on getting the headlights to open and close smoothly without damaging the buckets or the covers. It seems like the buckets do not really agree with the covers. Am I the only one with this issue?
Thanks
Oh, and the lights are fantastic. Extremely bright.
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Synthesis Member
Posts: 12207 From: Jordan, MN Registered: Feb 2002
I put these in my '86 GT almost a year ago and they are great.
I do have one question though. Does anyone have any tips on getting the headlights to open and close smoothly without damaging the buckets or the covers. It seems like the buckets do not really agree with the covers. Am I the only one with this issue?
Thanks
Oh, and the lights are fantastic. Extremely bright.
Yes. Go to your local "Wal-Mart" or other supply store. Look in the automotive accessories, and find "Door Edge Guard". It is a plastic molding that clips over the edge of a door to protect it when you open the door next to another car.
Place it along the top, front edge of the bucket, where it rubs against the bottom of the door.
I am currently working with Timo (Fiero1Fan) and a US Manufacturer to get the second run of buckets made. Stay tuned for further details.
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Austrian Import Member
Posts: 3919 From: Monterey, CA Registered: Feb 2007
Originally posted by Synthesis: I am currently working with Timo (Fiero1Fan) and a US Manufacturer to get the second run of buckets made. Stay tuned for further details.
will the design stay exactly the same, or will it be modified?
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Marvin McInnis Member
Posts: 11599 From: ~ Kansas City, USA Registered: Apr 2002
Does anyone have any tips on getting the headlights to open and close smoothly without damaging the buckets or the covers. It seems like the buckets do not really agree with the covers. Am I the only one with this issue?
No, you are not alone. This is a design deficiency in his otherwise excellent product that I hope Timo (Fiero1Fan) will fix some day.
If you look closely you'll see the problem. When the headlights are up the door is resting on the low beam lamp itself, instead of being supported by the bucket. It looks like Timo's buckets were originally designed to mount the low beam modules inboard, rather than outboard as required by U.S. regulations, and that may account for the discrepancy.
If you examine the OEM headlight buckets, you'll note that they have two subtle design features missing from Timo's buckets. 1) There are two rounded projections that make the initial contact with the door and take all the loads during the first part of the opening sequence. 2) Once fully open, the door is supported by the front face of the OEM bucket. The lamp itself never makes contact with the door.
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Do you think the next batch will be ready within the next month? Just curious as I have the lights sitting on my living room floor right now ready to go into the car! Please keep me on the waiting list.