I'm working on it guys. First few grand I have to spare are going to production. I did some calculations and I believe that if a sell about a hundred sets I will have actually turned a profit cash wise. That's at 300 a set. I am probably going to sell them at around 260 a set if I can afford it though. I am not going to rob the 401k but I may borrow the money against some notes I hold. We will see.
Don't stress Times are just real tough on everyone right now. I expect things will loosen up and people will start paying me.
I am fairly confident I can sell a hundred or so sets in a couple months time. I been in this for 10 months now so a couple more won't kill me or you.
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mcaanda Member
Posts: 3652 From: Grand Junction Colorado Registered: Mar 2003
Originally posted by pokeyfiero: I'm working on it guys. First few grand I have to spare are going to production. I did some calculations and I believe that if a sell about a hundred sets I will have actually turned a profit cash wise. That's at 300 a set. I am probably going to sell them at around 260 a set if I can afford it though. < snip >
$3oo.oo = Great Pricing being that they are not available & I'm still in.
$26o.oo = Fantastic pricing & I'm super in at 26o, and owe you a mocha, ( trying to cut back on the bubbly; it's HORRIBLE for the waistline ) if you could make that happen and still put something other than top ramen on the table for dinner.
--Allen
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AkursedX Member
Posts: 2890 From: Lackawanna NY Registered: Aug 2000
I'm working on it guys. First few grand I have to spare are going to production. I did some calculations and I believe that if a sell about a hundred sets I will have actually turned a profit cash wise. That's at 300 a set. I am probably going to sell them at around 260 a set if I can afford it though. I am not going to rob the 401k but I may borrow the money against some notes I hold. We will see.
Don't stress Times are just real tough on everyone right now. I expect things will loosen up and people will start paying me.
I am fairly confident I can sell a hundred or so sets in a couple months time. I been in this for 10 months now so a couple more won't kill me or you.
I'm definietly still in. Even at $300 I wouldn't think twice about buying a set.
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fierogt28 Member
Posts: 2958 From: New-Brunswick, Canada. Registered: Feb 2005
Take this as you will as I am only stating that I saw a set of windows on saturday from the origanator of this post that JUST came off the mold completed and all from what I was told. I was a bit shocked to see them after the read here. I want to say that they were very impressive. THey were placed inside an OEM window and they were spot on. So please take this as a note of what I saw. From what I understand the commitment is trying to be met on them. I was also told that the cost was to be 250.00 a set when completed. Again please take this as only what I saw and what was presented at our last meeting on saturday. Just thought you would like to know.
I'm working on it guys. First few grand I have to spare are going to production. I did some calculations and I believe that if a sell about a hundred sets I will have actually turned a profit cash wise. That's at 300 a set. I am probably going to sell them at around 260 a set if I can afford it though. I am not going to rob the 401k but I may borrow the money against some notes I hold. We will see.
Don't stress Times are just real tough on everyone right now. I expect things will loosen up and people will start paying me.
I am fairly confident I can sell a hundred or so sets in a couple months time. I been in this for 10 months now so a couple more won't kill me or you.
Very patiently waiting with money specifically set aside. As soon as you say *GO* I'll try to be one of the first to get it to you. If it will help, I'm more than willing to send funds now with no expectations of delivery until you're absolutely ready.
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MsLoriFiero Member
Posts: 695 From: Lester AL USA Registered: May 2003
Originally posted by pokeyfiero: I am fairly confident I can sell a hundred or so sets in a couple months time. I been in this for 10 months now so a couple more won't kill me or you.
Not if I can help it, I may have been quiet, but I'm not dead. Anyone that I owe a set of window to, Please contact me. MsLori
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Toddster Member
Posts: 20871 From: Roswell, Georgia Registered: May 2001
Originally posted by MsLoriFiero: Not if I can help it, I may have been quiet, but I'm not dead. Anyone that I owe a set of window to, Please contact me. MsLori
Wow, that's pretty brazen / optimistic for someone who appears to have screwed a great deal of people over for quite some time. I think that there would be a number of people that would gladly spend the extra 50 not to have to deal with you.
I normally stay out of other peoples tiff's but you've got some nerve having an attitude with someone who picked up the ball where you dropped it.
Maybe you should stay with your normal, you don't know any of the details of what I have been though, and I never dropped anything, other than my comments on here.
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Hulki U. My-BFF Member
Posts: 5949 From: Back home in East Berlin, PA Registered: Apr 2008
Maybe you should stay with your normal, you don't know any of the details of what I have been though, and I never dropped anything, other than my comments on here.
Just a thought from a newbie to this forum, which is me. This thread didn't get to 20-something pages because you were fulfilling orders. It got that far because people paid money for a product you didn't deliver, and then stopped communicating with them altogether. Then to come back on here with an attitude isn't helping your cause. I'm glad that pokey is doing this, because he's doing everyone here a service, and keeping them in the loop. I'm also glad this thread exists for future customers such as myself, so we know where to get parts from reliable people. So from a future customer standpoint, as soon as pokey gets these done, he will have my business, for the sole fact I trust him.
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Bradley Jay Member
Posts: 794 From: Redlands, CA Registered: Jun 2008
WOW, I wouldn't have believed it, if I didn't see it with my own eyes. Your back I honestly can say I do not know if this is good or bad. You see you had left alot of fiero friends on here empty handed (BAD) but now you are ready to make things right and deliver on what they paid for (GOOD) Now we have a great guy on the Forum PokeyFiero who has taken and big chunk of his time and his money to make these (GOOD) but he is not near completion (BAD) AND Now you are ready to sell your product (I have mixed feeling about that (GOOD & BAD) I like to see a product come to life, wear other won't go. Plus having 2 different people working on these windows, it does not give a monopoly to one person which is (GOOD) because if one of you would (NOT SAYING EITHER OF YOU WOULD) let quality slip you would have to fix it, or lose possible sale in the future (GOOD FOR US) where if there was only one of you selling these windows and quality slacked a little you could say tuff oh well where else are you going to get them from (BAD FOR US) So I hope both of you can have your products out there. From reading this topic you have "ALOT" of bad blood out here Ms.Lori and hopefully all can be resolved with orders that have been promised and payed for. Now heres the real question (AND I AM BY NO MEANS TAKING ANY SIDE) but fiero people that need these will buy from you (that is reality) but I do not want to see are other Fiero member PokeyFiero give up on his quest (MAYBE HE IS WORKING OR ALREADY HAS IS DONE OR THIS POST FROM YOU IS GOING TO PUSH HIS PRODUCT OUT THERE A LITTLE SOONER) What ever happens I just hope for BOTH of you to succeed. My 2 cents.
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You didn't even keep records of who sent you money?
Actually, yes I did, and there seem to be a lot of people here talking about things they don't know anything about, and there were not a "lot" of people that sent me money for these windows, yes there were a few, (less than 10) and one by one I am trying to make things right by them. I will admit that I had some problems and hit bottom and stayed there longer than I ever expected to, and even to the point where I could not respond by email and/or phone. I never gave up on this project, but I did give up on those people that kept giving me promises that I was passing on to all of you, so my promises depended on their promises. That is not the case now, I have totally changed who I deal with, and how, I have also leaned a lot about people, especially some here on this forum. I am still not up and running 100% yet, but I will take care of what I owe and then I will be up and running 100%. For those of you that claim you sent me money and are not on my list, send me some prove that I am wrong, and I will take care of it. MsLori
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pokeyfiero Member
Posts: 16203 From: Free America! Registered: Dec 2003
Not if I can help it, I may have been quiet, but I'm not dead. Anyone that I owe a set of window to, Please contact me. MsLori
Maybe you shouldn't have been so damned quiet. Don't give me any attitude about "not if you can help it" You could have helped it a long time ago. You could have saved everyone a lot of money,time and trouble.
I suggest you communicate with me as respectfully as possible or so help me I will flood the market at below cost. Don't start trouble you won't want to deal with. If you are bringing your panels to market do it with out the remarks.
Originally posted by pokeyfiero: Maybe you shouldn't have been so damned quiet. Don't give me any attitude about "not if you can help it" You could have helped it a long time ago. You could have saved everyone a lot of money,time and trouble.
I suggest you communicate with me as respectfully as possible or so help me I will flood the market at below cost. Don't start trouble you won't want to deal with. If you are bringing your panels to market do it with out the remarks.
damn the fury gets released safe to say from what iv herd from some people about this whole topic if i go for the exact window replacement im comming to you for a set good luck with it.
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daniel87fierogt Member
Posts: 1793 From: Northern California Registered: Oct 2003
I just want to say that i have personally met Andrew (pokeyfiero) more than once on the Coast Run every year that Dale Houston does and andrew is a honest, stand up guy. I really need a set of exact replacement quarter windows for my gt and there is only one person i will be buying a set from and that is him. He has almost delivered exact reproduction quarter windows without taking a dime from anyone on this forum and that IMHO really deserves some respect and determination. Pokey has spent thousands of dollers of his own hard earned money and I believe that anyone on that list that backs out and buys from that person that screwed over quite a few people on this forum is wrong. I belive that Andrew is going to deliver what he said he was going to do and i dont think anyone should have to go throught what some people went through with mslorifiero. If every single one of us that said we were going to buy a set of windows from pokey does, then i believe that each and every one of us did our part and didnt let andrew down. If there is anybody that deserves the credit it is definitely andrew for going and doing this for all of us. He knew there was a market for those windows and he went ahead and absorbed all the R&D into his own pocket. So it is the least that we could do as a group, that we stick with andrew and stay optimistic that he will deliver some very exceptional windows. You cant put a price on dealing with someone that is honest and wont stab you in the back just to make an extra buck. Andrew will not let anyone touch these windows until they are perfect in every way, and i have to commend him on his determination and will to get these to the group of people that so very need these windows including himself. Great Job Andrew for bringing this so far and never giving up. I look forward to buying a set of windows from you. Daniel
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sjmaye Member
Posts: 2468 From: Hendersonville, TN USA Registered: Jun 2003
Originally posted by pokeyfiero: Don't give me any attitude about "not if you can help it"
OK, I will admit I made that statement out of anger and it was responded to quicker than I could edit it. The truth is I ran into some problems and I did explain that to everyone and told everyone that I didn't know when but that I would at some point take care of it and apologized to all. After being off of here for most of the last year and now glancing though and reading some of the comments, yes I became angry. It doesn't seem to matter that I myself have over $10,000 of my own money tied up into this project, only that I took a few orders. I went though everything you are going though, months of R&D and samples made, the samples looked good, and I even sent those to various people across the country and they even approved them, so I gave the OK to start production. When I went to pick up the batch, they were loaded into my van while I was in the office, and 2 days latter when I unloaded them, they did not look like the samples, so what was I to do? send these to my customers knowing they were not the quality I was promised, and promised to everyone, or send them back and ask people for their patience? I choose the latter. This happened to me 3 times, and I had to resort to legal action which is still pending. Most businesses in the molding industry do not want to take time for "small orders" the magic number for them is 10,000, and if you have found someone willing to take time for what they consider a small order, I wish you all the best. For all of you calling me a thief, I want you to know that I am not. A lot of you making those comments, know absolutely nothing about me, or have ever had any dealing with me, but yet you make judgements about me. Pokey, you would have my 100% respect, but it does irritate me that you could not even start your own post of this, you had to hijack this one, basically drawing on all of the attention I have generated about this project. I thought this was supposed to be a "community". A community works together and tries to help each other when there are problems, but because I didn't post a weekly update and/or weekly apologies I am now branded a thief?? Just to let everyone know, that while I have been silent, I have also been working on a solution to this situation, and I believe that I am close to having that solution done.
MsLori
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Fiero_Freak Member
Posts: 1125 From: St. Louis, MO USA Registered: Oct 2000
WOW... I've not been back on here for quite some time. I thought these would be done by now and was waiting on an e-mail since I said I would buy once availible. I'm not sure exactly whats going on, but I'll try to read up.
As far as the current sets, I'm still in for a set so you can add me to the list. Will they be availble in a tinted version?
------------------ Dana Mitchell Member of the Gateway Fiero Club 88 GT Red w/ 5-Speed,87 GT Blue w/ 5-Speed, 87 GT Maroon w/ Silver w/ Auto 95 Roadmaster Estate Wagon w/ Air Ride 2-Tone w/ Ghost Flames 07 2500HD Silverado Crew Cab 6.6L Duramax/Allison, 07 Saturn Outlook (wife's ride), 91 CBR1000F Can anyone help pay my insurance?
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Hulki U. My-BFF Member
Posts: 5949 From: Back home in East Berlin, PA Registered: Apr 2008
Pokey, you would have my 100% respect, but it does irritate me that you could not even start your own post of this, you had to hijack this one, basically drawing on all of the attention I have generated about this project. I thought this was supposed to be a "community". A community works together and tries to help each other when there are problems, but because I didn't post a weekly update and/or weekly apologies I am now branded a thief??
Pokey came on her to give hope to the people that were waiting on these. He wouldn't have had a chance to draw alot of your "attention" away if you would have taken 3 minutes out of your day once in awhile to post updates. Instead you left everyone hanging. What's that say about your "community" relations?
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ALLTRBO Member
Posts: 2023 From: College Park, MD Registered: Mar 2006
Originally posted by ALLTRBO: At this point I wouldn't buy them from her even if she did finish them. It's just plain rude to keep paying customers in the dark and to hang on to the money for that long. Refunds have been offered once, but not any time recently. People want their money back and haven't got it yet. I hope it all works out for everybody, but I'm going to buy mine elsewhere.
My view still stands.
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CTFieroGT87 Member
Posts: 2520 From: Royal Oak, MI Registered: Oct 2002
OK, I will admit I made that statement out of anger and it was responded to quicker than I could edit it.
Good enough for me.
I never once said or did anything disrespectful to you. If you read the thread you will find that everyone myself included wanted you to succeed. The truth is we could have gotten this all done by now if you had not been so stubborn when I offered you help like a year ago. From my perspective and most others your total lack of communication led to this. I wanted windows. I didn't want to make them. Now I have made them so I certainly will be selling them. If you sell yours also that will be fine. I will most certainly make my money back over a time period so no great lose to me. You on the other hand will now make substantially less money and that may hurt you for that I am sorry but there is nothing I can do about that. Good luck and I hope you do well. I will do well no matter what that's a certainty.
For those of you waiting for great re-pros I would have you consider this. Lori's windows from what I have seen in the past were pretty damn good so I don't think quality is an issue. If you need the windows right now by all means get them from her if you can and put them on your car. There is no need to not purchase from her for my well being. I stated clearly how I do business and I also stated that even if Lori got her self together I would still have to complete the project so it is on me no one else.
This has been a community project of sorts and the community should be the one that benefits.
I won't have finished product most likely in this year. While everything is ready for production and only minor testing on the trimming machine need be done I am still a bit away from having the capitol to make enough sets for a financially efficient run. Normally a small project like this isn't a burden but cash money is hard to get these last 8 months. I have the assets to finish just not in a rapid time frame. I am not saying this project isn't important to me it is. I have 10 other larger concerns financially that must take precedence otherwise I would gladly push this through with monetary brute force. I am a business person as well as a Fiero enthusiast so I don't do things haphazardly. So there is the reality of the situation.
I have provided you with everything I know and where I stand at this moment so you can make a informed decision. Buy with whomever you choose without regret.
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blakeinspace Member
Posts: 5923 From: Fort Worth, Texas Registered: Dec 2001
Originally posted by pokeyfiero: I have provided you with everything I know and where I stand at this moment so you can make a informed decision. Buy with whomever you choose without regret.
Wow dude... wish I could give you another (+). Somebody raised you right.
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Originally posted by MsLoriFiero: but because I didn't post a weekly update and/or weekly apologies I am now branded a thief??
I don't have a dog in the hunt (a GT)... I just liked reading pokey's discovery of manufacturing process. It is fascinating...
but as for that quoted sentence... yeah... I think it does. Honestly MsLori... what else were people supposed to think? After that length of time... what other choice of thought did you give them?
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sjmaye Member
Posts: 2468 From: Hendersonville, TN USA Registered: Jun 2003
I never once said or did anything disrespectful to you. If you read the thread you will find that everyone myself included wanted you to succeed. The truth is we could have gotten this all done by now if you had not been so stubborn when I offered you help like a year ago. From my perspective and most others your total lack of communication led to this.
That's quite a revelation Pokey. I've kept my mouth shut about all this until now, but your disclosure has prompted me to speak up.
I too contacted Lori and we exchanged messages several times. I offered my help as a professional engineer with plastics manufacturing experience and I even offered to come up to Alabama at my own cost to help her get things sorted out when she was having problems with vendors. I didn't expect anything personally out of it, I simply wanted to help someone who had a great product idea and appeared to have little or no experience, navigate through it to success. Things like plywood trimming "fixtures", the lack of positive locating features on parts to align them for trimming and printing and other things caused me concern, but my sincere offers of help were never accepted. We did communicate briefly about the selection of the proper plastic material and I assured her that she had made a good choice from what she told me she had bought. Just a month or two prior to Daytona this year, Lori promised that she would have a set of windows to me so that I would have my car ready for the show. I ended up having to buy a set of Doug Kinney's windows just a few weeks before the show. I told Lori that I would happily take those off my car and put her new windows on as soon as she had hers ready. I also left the door open to Lori, telling her that I stood ready to help in any way I could and all she had to do was email, PM or call me. I think you'll see that I even continued to support Lori here on the forum long after many others cried foul, but there came a point that I simply couldn't do that any longer given that there was no communication from her to the forum, (customers), and there was no private communication from her to me. At the time I thought she either didn't want my help or that she had things under control, albeit moving slowly. I thought it best to simply not say anything on the forum and wait to see if she succeeded. Nothing more that I could, or felt that I *should* do. Many months later with still no word from Lori, I finally had to give up, and I gave my word to Pokey with my "DWB" for his windows. I'll keep that committment.
Edit to add:
As most of you probably know, JimmyS is selling side scoops, noses and other fiberglass parts for Fieros. Early this year I obtained permission from Dietmar to copy his product(s) here in the U.S. Very few people knew about it, (Exoticse, Tony, was one of the few who knew and swore to secrecy), My business responsibilities kept me from putting the time and effort into it like I wanted and getting going in a timely manner and I ended up having a small part in Jimmy and Dan getting going with it. The most important business model I stressed to them was UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES offer anything for sale unless you have it in hand ready to begin shipping. Do not post questions or progress updates and NEVER take pre-orders. That practice is almost always fraught with problems and unhappy customers. Doing that creates expectations that you might not be able to meet like you originally thought or promised. I'm not criticizing Pokey on this. His business model is his, I'm confident that he knows full well the perils of pre-announcing a new product and to his credit, he hasn't asked for a dime from anyone until he actually has a product to ship. from his posts, I know he's feeling the pressure, (granted, most of it his own), but the expectation level is high and that just adds to the pressure that nobody needs when they're investing their own money, time and talent developing a new product. Over the years most of us have seen many "proposed products" be announced here on PFF, never to come to fruition. I sincerely hope that a lesson is learned from all this and that our entrepreneurs here seriously think about their approach to offering new products. (just my $0.02 worth)
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Posts: 5486 From: Charleston SC Registered: Dec 2001
You know I really, really REALLY want new quarter windows. But I would rather wait for someone other than MsLori to produce them. I am sure something went drastically wrong with whomever was making them for her, but that has to be the gamble a business person makes going in. If you take cash for preorders, you are obligated to either refund money or produce a product timely. The not answering calls or emails just ain't right and the mere fact that she ducked all those she owed money to for so long leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. So, I am of the same camp as others that would pay 50 bucks more to deal with someone other than MsLori.
Or if Pokey's are not done timely enough for me, I will buy a flat set to put on the car until someone other than MsLori comes on line with an OEM set.
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Nazareth Member
Posts: 730 From: morristown, TN Registered: Aug 2003
I will admit that I had some problems and hit bottom and stayed there longer than I ever expected to, and even to the point where I could not respond by email and/or phone. I never gave up on this project, MsLori
Did anyone read this? how was I supposed to communicate, when I clearly stated that I could not. I did ask at least 3 people to relay my message to this forum, and I know at least 2 that did, but that wasn't enough for some of you. And as for me taking preorders, I only took a few orders when I had the product in hand, it was not until I started to pack them that I noticed the flaws, by that time it was to late, they had all of my money, and went on vacation, when they returned, I returned the windows, and they promised to make some better, well that went on for several months, and in the meantime I had some personal issues that had to be dealt with, and that took priority over this project. I did pass on to those that I spoke to that this matter would be taken care of as soon as I could and to please let everyone know. I would like to ask those of you that are so quick to judge me, what have you accomplished? what have you ever contributed to the Fiero community? I have contributed a lot to this community, and some of you know what I mean. If I were trying to rip people off as some of you have stated, why would I be here now? It would be much easier to just ignore you and your uninformed comments. I have found a company that wants those little orders like this, and if everything goes as planned, I will own that company soon, and this window project will be totally under my control, and just to play it safe, I am not putting all of my eggs in one basket anymore. I deal with these cars everyday, and not many people know them as well as I do, so I know what they need and what items are not available for them, but I will never talk about what my plans are until I have them completed and ready to ship. So those of you that want to trash on me, go ahead, I will remember you.
MsLori
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Cliff Pennock Administrator
Posts: 11779 From: Zandvoort, The Netherlands Registered: Jan 99
So those of you that want to trash on me, go ahead, I will remember you.
You know, I promised myself to stay out of threads like these but this is the second time somebody here takes money from people, then disappears of the face of the earth for quite a while (without delivering the items people have paid for), only to return with a whole bunch of vague excuses and an attitude of "F**k all who dare question my integrity". And that pisses me off to no end.
It will take a whole lot more effort from you to get people to trust you again. And in all honesty, with the attitude you are displaying (seriously, "I will remember you"?) you will not be getting my business. If that means I will never get my windows (in case pokey can't get them made), so be it.
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DeLorean00 Member
Posts: 4251 From: Sacramento, CA / Reno, NV Registered: Aug 2005
I never once said or did anything disrespectful to you. If you read the thread you will find that everyone myself included wanted you to succeed. The truth is we could have gotten this all done by now if you had not been so stubborn when I offered you help like a year ago. From my perspective and most others your total lack of communication led to this. I wanted windows. I didn't want to make them. Now I have made them so I certainly will be selling them. If you sell yours also that will be fine. I will most certainly make my money back over a time period so no great lose to me. You on the other hand will now make substantially less money and that may hurt you for that I am sorry but there is nothing I can do about that. Good luck and I hope you do well. I will do well no matter what that's a certainty.
For those of you waiting for great re-pros I would have you consider this. Lori's windows from what I have seen in the past were pretty damn good so I don't think quality is an issue. If you need the windows right now by all means get them from her if you can and put them on your car. There is no need to not purchase from her for my well being. I stated clearly how I do business and I also stated that even if Lori got her self together I would still have to complete the project so it is on me no one else.
This has been a community project of sorts and the community should be the one that benefits.
I won't have finished product most likely in this year. While everything is ready for production and only minor testing on the trimming machine need be done I am still a bit away from having the capitol to make enough sets for a financially efficient run. Normally a small project like this isn't a burden but cash money is hard to get these last 8 months. I have the assets to finish just not in a rapid time frame. I am not saying this project isn't important to me it is. I have 10 other larger concerns financially that must take precedence otherwise I would gladly push this through with monetary brute force. I am a business person as well as a Fiero enthusiast so I don't do things haphazardly. So there is the reality of the situation.
I have provided you with everything I know and where I stand at this moment so you can make a informed decision. Buy with whomever you choose without regret.
Wow, Pokey you are a Class act!! What I great way to handle this, I have a lot to learn from you.
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topcat Member
Posts: 5486 From: Charleston SC Registered: Dec 2001
I do not think you were trying to rip people off, I really don't, but in the end you did. What if those that paid you moved on with other plans, or worst case, is no longer with us? How do you make it right with them? I do not know if that is the case at all, I am just saying what if? Your intentions might have been honorable, but the fact is you DID rip people off. You know the old saying, the road to hell is paved with good intentions? As far as people making "uninformed comments" They are as informed as you allowed them to be. This thread has been going on way too long.... and not being able to respond to a phone call, email, or snail mail is quite unbelievable - unless you were in a coma. And if you were, then I owe you an apology.
Just to be sure that you do "remember" me, do not honor any orders from Tony Coney - But rest assured you will not be getting any from him.
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If I were trying to rip people off as some of you have stated, why would I be here now? It would be much easier to just ignore you and your uninformed comments. ...
I will remember you.
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MsLoriFiero Member
Posts: 695 From: Lester AL USA Registered: May 2003
You know, I promised myself to stay out of threads like these
I wish you would have kept your promise, I intend to keep mine, and a lot of people on here knew my situation but never relayed that information on here. You worded that like you ordered and payed for a set of windows from me, giving people the impression I ripped you off as well, but the truth is you never did, so why did you and several other people give others people that impression? I know who I owe and the count is less than 5 at this time, which I will take care of. MsLori
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Hulki U. My-BFF Member
Posts: 5949 From: Back home in East Berlin, PA Registered: Apr 2008
If I were trying to rip people off as some of you have stated, why would I be here now? So those of you that want to trash on me, go ahead, I will remember you.
The only reason you're back on here is because you feel pokey is stealing your thunder. Otherwise, you'd still be MIA
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what have you ever contributed to the Fiero community? I have contributed a lot to this community, and some of you know what I mean.
Wow, you really are on your high horse, aren't you? What, nobody else is worth anything unless they promise to make an impossible to get product? Maybe we should all model ourselves after you, and make empty promises. Maybe we would all be high and mighty just like you.
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I will remember you
Good, because I would rather eat a razor blade popsicle and drive my Fiero around with big empty spots where the 1/4 windows used to be, than deal with you.
