I stayed quiet for a time but get this... I paid for 2 of these un-polished as I want to powder coat them and didn't need them polished. All Andrew had to do was put 2 in a package and mail them. Still don't have mine either.

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My best advice when it comes to your Fiero is to "NOT" do any dealings with www.kitcarman.com
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...070315-1-061575.html <~ The drama with kitcarman
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/078336.html <~ finishing and fixing kitcarmans mess
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/079860.html <~ re-do after kitcarmans motor blew up.

Heres some news, I emailed him with a question about his ebay auction for the fiero badges because I am interested in one, I wasn't sure if I would get a response because maybe his comp crashed, his dog died, his house blew down, fiero caught on fire...etc etc....anyways he did reply (this was just a few hours ago) so he is still alive and he does have the internet.

Now I need to decide if I should roll the dice and buy a badge or not, and I would just love to buy one of these emblems but that doesn't seem like a good idea now. He makes great products but just cant close the deal I guess.

See, thats bullshit. He knows exactly whats going on.

Anyone care to go knock on his door?

Andrew & Linda Rogers
534 Verna Dr
Endwell, NY 13760

Edit - Im going to the police station in a few hours to see what they say.

[This message has been edited by AutoTech (edited 01-24-2008).]

Whats really neat is our negatives have gone up since this thread. You tell the truth and get burned here. Rick

still nothing in the mail for me. would love to get some communication from him.

quote Originally posted by AutoTech: See, thats bullshit. He knows exactly whats going on. Anyone care to go knock on his door? Andrew & Linda Rogers 534 Verna Dr Endwell, NY 13760 Edit - Im going to the police station in a few hours to see what they say.

You could have avoid his wife's name

[This message has been edited by Robert 2 (edited 01-24-2008).]

If i lived in new york id be there right now...

quote Originally posted by Robert 2: You could have avoid his wife's name

And he could have sent me my stuff.

SuperchagedV6 - I gave ya a plus, dont know why anyone would neg you?

quote Originally posted by F-I-E-R-O: Hello. I haven't sent any out yet but.... I did start working on them today. I've got some wings done and the bodies will be started tomorrow. I have to admit that I didn't work very hard on them today, the bending over part kinda got to me. I wish I knew how to express how I feel about everyone here, but there's no time for that right now- first priority is to get these things finished...

Anyone live close that can give him a hand finishing them?

Let me state quite truthfully here,I still have you ALL at least neutral, if not positive.
Nick

quote Originally posted by SuperchargedV6: Whats really neat is our negatives have gone up since this thread. You tell the truth and get burned here. Rick

Nothing in the mail again today.
Wondering if I should order another 3 from him on eBay and then if I get those, just file that I never did and I will at least get the 3 orginally ordered.
I have filed a complaint with PayPal (hated to do it...but that is a lot of money for not getting something).

PISSED!

quote Originally posted by fierofetish: Now, there's a thought? IRM..you just earned a '+' for that... Or at least can we assume that Andrew DOES have a legitimate problem, and be prepared to accept them un-polished...that would have been my suggestion in the first place to Andrew BEFORE he started to advertise them. After all, an un-polished one in the hand is worth two on his bench ? And even un-polished, they would STILL be real value for money.IMHO. Nick

I paid for 2 unpolished and I don't have mine.

Here is the list of us who ordered:

PFF Member Name Item QTY Status
pswayne Pegasus 2 Paid
dozol Pegasus 1 Paid ---------------------------------------------Received
blkcofy Pegasus 2 Paid--------------------------------------------Received
Terry B. Pegasus 1 Paid
Sourmug Pegasus 1 Paid ----------------------------------------Received
88formulaman Pegasus 1 Paid
88GT350 Pegasus 2 Paid
CenTexIndy Pegasus 3 Paid
Vendetta Pegasus 2 Paid
metrofiero Pegasus 1 Paid -------------------------------------------Received
Robert 2 Pegasus 1 Paid ---------------------------------------------Received
88GTFormula Pegasus 2 Paid
PineyCreek Pegasus 1 Paid -----------------------------------------Received
hellbentkrusty Pegasus 1 Paid
whadeduck Pegasus 2* Paid -----------------------------------------Received
SNAPPERHEAD Pegasus 2 Paid
FieroWannaBe Pegasus 1 Paid
Silentassassin185 Pegasus 1 Paid
Jarhead 2m4 Pegasus 2 Paid
craigsfiero2007 Pegasus 1 Paid


FieroGTguy Pegasus 1 Open
AutoTech Pegasus 3 Open
Steve25 Pegasus 2 Open
DESTOS Pegasus 1 Open
formula2 Pegasus 3 Open (check in the mail )
Fierotaz Pegasus 1 Open


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Now - who has received their order?
Is there any rhyme or reason as to who has received their order vs those of us who have not?

[This message has been edited by CenTexIndy (edited 01-29-2008).]

I received the one I paid for. He said I'd get another for free because I came up with the idea. So, because it's for free, I can't really complain if I don't get another. Not as much as if I had paid for both anyway.

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Whade' "The Duck Formerly Known As Wade" Duck
'87 GT Auto
'88 Ferrario
'84 Indy

Mine are fully paid...... $152.00 since dec. 10

Both have been paid since around the end of november...

I can top that ! I paid full amount of $151.00 via PayPal way back on Nov. 24th, over 2 months ago !

Im glad someone got there badges, hopefully the rest of us will see them soon! I just dont understand why he refuses to communicate to us, yet he has no problem communicating via eBay to potential customers looking to spend money.

Not here today. Paid Nov. 21.

Actually i got you beat i sent it Nov 19th. So over 2 months... and yet he wont talk or respond to my questions.

Austin

He responded to a question regarding an eBay item within hours. I then responded asking about our badges, and havent heard from him since.

quote Originally posted by Vendetta: Actually i got you beat i sent it Nov 19th. So over 2 months... and yet he wont talk or respond to my questions. Austin

I'm ahead of you Nov 16th for 2 badges.... I'm just waiting till they come in... They will look great in my new garage I'm planning to build this spring... Just a toy garage... not big only 24x24 2 stall with in floor heat, a lift and a 7' tall loft.. Keep working on them Andrew and looking forward to enjoy them.... Vince

I am not on that list. I paid for mine in full in December through PayPal. I have the papers to prove it.

Im just going to expect not to see anything. Does he attend Fiero shows frequently?

quote Originally posted by AutoTech: Im just going to expect not to see anything. Does he attend Fiero shows frequently?

I could be wrong but I think he goes to the opening day at Watkins Glen.

quote Originally posted by Vendetta: Actually i got you beat i sent it Nov 19th. So over 2 months... and yet he wont talk or respond to my questions. Austin

I sent my payment via PayPal Nov 19th as well. I have attempted to contact him 9 times now. No response at all.

Well, I contacted him through ebay and got a response within a few hours. When I asked about the badges here, he wont reply. SO.....I contacted him throogh ebay once again, but under my FIANCES name about some shipping or something, and he surprisingly replys back within 2 hours.

This guy really is pissing me off. Un-****ing-believable.

[This message has been edited by AutoTech (edited 01-28-2008).]

Andrew,

As one of the folks that actually received their badges, can you PLEASE stand up and say something?? This is just an electronic forum. They can't physically harm you. Whatever pressure you're feeling inside because you've fallen behind, is self imposed. Take a deep breath...and just respond to this forum. I KNOW you have to be reading this stuff, as it would be impossible for you not to at least be curious as to how heated things have gotten. No matter how bad it seems, it's just a forum, and once you deliver the product, memories will be short and folks will line up for your next project. BUT YOU HAVE TO DELIVER!!!

I hope you realize the more you remain quiet, the less amount of joy folks will have once they FINALLY receive what they trusted you in paying for? We all know you've done the cutting and have received the badges. Right now, if polishing is really the thing that is keeping you from delivering, send them through anyway. I'm sure folks here could find ways to polish them, themselves, especially if you provided direction on the process you are using.

But please...please take a stand on this and honor your agreement to fulfill services as promised. Your craftsmanship is far too valuable and unique to let your reputation totally be trashed like this. It's not too late to make good. But dude, you have to communicate. Even if it's just a, "hang in there, I'm alive...I'm working...and you will get your badges". You don't even have to explain...just give this group a line to let us know you are a MAN of your WORD.

That's all we have...is our word. It's not a financial thing, cause you have all the money. If you can't afford the shipping, send it COD...I'm sure that's even better than not doing anything. Wouldn't you agree? But you've got to take a stand here Andrew.

Blkcofy

Well said...... It would be nice to hear something just to calm the nerves for all... Vince

Centexindy --just thought I would have you add me to the recieved list. And I'm not totally sure when I recieved mine but it was postmarked 12/04/07. Anyhow I just read over this topic to see about possibly buying another badge and all I can say is that I'm truely sorry to see you guys going through this trouble. And like it was said before, it is a very nice product.

Not trying to make excuses for F-I-E-R-O but I've had experience when I was in business.
Sometimes if you don't make the product by yourself ( which he doesn't} you are at the mercy of your supplier as to when he will have time to slip in your order into their schedule.
I know he spends alot of time polishing these things.
As suggested by others, I think I would send them out unpolished with instructions as to finishing them yourself. But I know Andrew doesn't ship a product unless it's perfect in his eyes.
NO I havent bought from him before.
However when he came up with the idea for the new design I offered to try painting them in a different way.
He sent me three free, and when my idea didn't work, and I offered to send them back he insisted that I keep them.
If you go back over the years he has come up with brillant ideas for us all.
Before anyone says it.Yes I would be upset if I had waited for a couple of months {without response} but I have yet to see someone come on and say they were disappointed with what they got.
Just my 2 cents.Thanks....Clif

quote Originally posted by never2old: at the mercy of your supplier

He already has them, so this isnt the problem.

Bump (oof!)

Looks like he's going to set a new record for dropping out of the forum. Even Kwame couldn't hide this long......

At least he's not trying to take new orders.

I just called, and his 10yr old son answered the phone. Can I speak with Andrew please - "Ummmmm,........... hes not here right now". Ok, may I speak with your mother - "Ummm, ........................shes not here either". So youre at home, by yourself, with no supervision? "Ummm, yeah". When shall I call back? "Ummmm, ....................................................................................................................about 2 hours".

Sounded like I wasnt the only one in the conversation. Be pretty sad if he is having his little kid lying for him.