Uh madcurl or chester did i miss something ? Did not see the last pics u referenced.
hehehehe.......I did e-mailed them to Chester & Songman. Maybe thier enjoying the weekend with folks or maybe my job's computer has a "bug" or something? I need to stop buying stuff for my car and get a computer, hehehehe.
In the meantime, I'll try to explain it. My glass man and I were discussing ways of fiberglassing the side molding using existing molds from imports, 1990 Fiero example, and or a totally custom one-off. We were both looking at the front and back stock fenders and then the "light came on." The front stock fender flares is just what we need in the back......hello!
The idea was to NOT make the fender flare out of place but rather too make it look stock "like." You can't be more than stock if your using the front fender, right? So off to the local junk yard, took two stock front fender flares , cut them and placed them next to the Burgandy Fiero and......Presto! So their now are getting molded in.
Notice: how the curve of the stock front flare fits perfect with the rear side clip north and south? The deep of the flares is 2-3" from the body which is perfect for the 11" rims.
Oh yeah, Exoticse, the fender idea might be what your looking for on a thread you posted?
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hey thanks Chester for posting them.........it's really boring here at work. Sorry guys for the poor pics. In two more weeks I 'll try to get the results once their molded-in. I can't afford Songman's prices hehehehehe. Madcurl
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1. Mr.gasket universal door relaese kit, where to get it and parts included, price and availability was using an auto start.....works good but mr gasket may be cheaper.
2. The front nose pieces- from who? and you used what to bondo them, thinking of filing in my molding and doing some shaving...... more shaving to another ride.. here we go again.
That is number of times I have posted within this thread on this topic ! Geezzzzz I did not even realize it myself, that is crazy. Can't help it though madcurl has come up with some really great ideas, that has my mind working overtime.
Curly did u come up with the flare idea on the fly or was that part of your original plan ? Either way it is a great mod. I cant wait to see those babies smoothed in and better yet with the rims on Oooooooooooo gonna be sweet.
You mentioned doing something with the side vent like on your silver choptop,...is it going to be as we see it now , or is there more work to be done on it ?
When do you anticipate puttin the wheels on and having the headlamps done ? That will give a clearer picture of what this monster is gonna look like, minus the chop of course.
Looking fantastic !
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You mentioned doing something with the side vent like on your silver choptop,...is it going to be as we see it now , or is there more work to be done on it ?
Reply: Yes and no. vented....yes, use the NSX's vents.
When do you anticipate puttin the wheels on and having the headlamps done ? That will give a clearer picture of what this monster is gonna look like, minus the chop of course.
Reply: I'll hopefully will have the rear flares & headlamps finished within (2-4) weeks. Thats if the shop has more important things to do. I was tring to get it done around Feb 2004 before sending it to V8Archie, but I keep on comming-up with different ideas such as the headlamps and the roof. All other ideas or molds are borrowed from the concept version in a book I seen. For those who haven't seen the book, it 's just about the same except the hood, rear deck and over head vents I'm not using. So I take no credit in creating anything new here, besides it looks really ugly right now
I talk to V8Archie on a month to month bases, making sure what molds won't interfere with the chop. My goal (hopefully) is to have it ready before the 2005 Daytona show.
1. Mr.gasket universal door relaese kit, where to get it and parts included, price and availability was using an auto start.....works good but mr gasket may be cheaper.
2. The front nose pieces- from who? and you used what to bondo them, thinking of filing in my molding and doing some shaving...... more shaving to another ride.. here we go again.
I don't know what front nose pieces your refering to. I have an F355 nose on the Rat...One piece, no bonding involved...
Rob D.
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hey thanks Chester for posting them.........it's really boring here at work. Sorry guys for the poor pics. In two more weeks I 'll try to get the results once their molded-in. I can't afford Songman's prices hehehehehe. Madcurl
Okay, I just sent Chester some recent pics of the rear clip. The fiberglass is in place and now starting on side vents. This is using the original Fiero front side fenders. The wide body now bends-in with the rear Camero spoiler Coolcat turn me on to. Enjoy the pics...........with a bag popcorn. madcurl
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Okay, daddy got some "new shoes." 19x7.5 R1 Racing wheels, universal bolt pattern, with a 35mm off-set? I'd just couldn't pass on them for $475 for all (4). Besides, I have some 245's waiting for them at home.
The guy I know got another set of rims from his sponser, so he wanted to get rid of them real quick. I seen them on his car one month earlier, which btw are only three months old. Even the tires still had the sticky paper on them, with maybe 1-3 miles on them. It's one of those "show" car (import) thats always featured in the mags. I sent pics to Chester, maybe he'll post later
Thanks Chester for posting the pics. Correction; I'd just checked with R1 Racing about the recent rims on pics, they said there 42mm....hmmmmmm? i think their on crack, but i check later if anyone want to know. The original price is $269 per rim + tax. Not bad conciderring they can bolt on to my GS-T and the Fiero. oh yeah as you can some what tell.... the rear clip is pushed out by 1 3/4" using the front stock Fiero fender which IMO "looks stock." Or like the blue fastback at the 20th. I haven't decided as what color yet? Burgandy, red, or black? ------------------
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I love the back end... Thats why I am redoing my rear because it needed more roundness and more flare.. I am going ANOTHER 6" wider on my widebody by building the actual pieces then putting them on... I am using foam again for the mould process...
Anyways I just wanted to tell you it looks GREAT!
SmoothGT!
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I love the back end... Thats why I am redoing my rear because it needed more roundness and more flare.. I am going ANOTHER 6" wider on my widebody by building the actual pieces then putting them on... I am using foam again for the mould process...
Anyways I just wanted to tell you it looks GREAT!
SmoothGT!
Hmmmmm........if your going 6" out, just what type of rim depth are our going to use? a 17x13?
I don't mean to get off the topic but that Black Fiero may have just become my favorite! Please tell me who that car belongs to and direct me to pics of it. What kinda rims are those and what size? Much appreciated P.S. That 360 is kinda sweet too
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I never realized how good a Ferrari 360 looks with a spoiler... I almost thought it was a rebodied Fiero with Ferrari taillights
Not too Hijack curly's thread but if u think it looks good from the back take a look at it from the front !! there is a better picture of it on the april cover of FORZA magazine (magazine about ferrari), you can see the nose a lot clearer than in this one.
It belongs to Imola Racing and the nose spoiler is outstanding,..has me mulling some curly-like (translation sweet mod) ideas. See i even made a curly tie in !
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Okay quick pic updates! My glassman is working on flaring the lower panels near the rear tire but the pics where taken at night so I won't post that one. However. I do have pics of the rear lights. I'ed looked around and just couldn't settle for anything that I'ed liked so I went with these.
I'll clue you guys/gals in later as to what I plan on doing. All that I can say is that the rear clip will be different, but not over the top. I'm sending the pics to Chester so it may be awhile before he post them. Enjoy
In that picture where the side vent is being created, what materials are being used for the mock up ? is that wood, cardboard or something else ?
Furthermore when they glass it, do they glass right over top of that material and use that as the actual part or do they make a mold of it and then glass an entirely seperate piece ?
In that picture where the side vent is being created, what materials are being used for the mock up ? is that wood, cardboard or something else ?
Furthermore when they glass it, do they glass right over top of that material and use that as the actual part or do they make a mold of it and then glass an entirely seperate piece ?
Thanks Tony
What type of material is the mock-up made of? Well you're partly right, its a thin compressed cardboard material which is used to create a mold or for one-off product. The same like the center console that was layed with fiberglass (except console was real wood). The vents now take on totally different look, which gives it some "depth" to it now. Would be nice to use as a mold but, who need wide tires in the back?
I have some current pics of the progess, I'll try to send them to Chester. As always, the shop is wayyyy behind in doing the headlights and I need to get the car to D1S in order to try and attend Wheatstock which, is a long shot.
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Hey thanks Chester for posting pic. I'll have (2-3) more pics of it finished w/o the cardboard material tomorrow. My Camera man in Bakersfield CA went home for the day and forgot to send me the current pics. Some of the comments from the younger crowd couldn't belive the "transformation" process from the car in the picture (taped on passenger's side window) and what ther're seeing in front of them. One guy even stated: Man! "This the kind of car I need for a project." The import seen is very strong out her in Caleefornia, but I ain't bit'n, hehehehe.
Who are you having do your glass work? Is it someone in the Bay area? Just wondering as I have been looking for someone to do some work for me. I probably could do it myself, but I never seem to be motivated. :/
Oh man another SIC Fiero in the making, Makes me sorry for ever moving away from the bay area! Ya can't get anywhere near the ocean here either.Keep up the good work and keep the posts coming. Joe
Who are you having do your glass work? Is it someone in the Bay area? Just wondering as I have been looking for someone to do some work for me. I probably could do it myself, but I never seem to be motivated. :/
The shop is "Trends" in Bakersfield CA. Thats between Fresno and the "grape vine" route on I-5. They usually do imports and a few domestic cars and are "packed" with cars waiting to be "transformed." 661 323-6557 asks for Joe or Reuben only. They are the same guys that did my Silver Choptop, tell them that I refered you to them and (they) may offer a discount?
I WARN YOU: THEY ARE BACKED UP BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I should have more pics next week when I check -in on the progress:
New 2003 Celica headlamps. Rear bumper flared out 3" and finished side vents.
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man! I'ed just got off the phone with Tire Rack and after 8 months they still don't have the tires!!!!!!!!!!
All I need is (2) PZero's 345/25/20. Although we measured it, it still would be nice to have the tire mounted on the rim before the body work is finished. Ahhhggg.........I may have to settle for the 305/25/20's. The funny thing about the PZero's there a summer tire! Go figure
Dang... it's been awhile since I've revisited this thread - it's absolutely amazing some of the innovations you're doing, and how nicely the shop is executing them. Keep the the great work - looks like you'll be able to take 1st & 2nd place trophies in every show you attend (assuming you've got a friend you trust enough to drive one car or the other ). Keep the pics coming - I'd love to see more!
Curley - have you tried any other sources for the PZeros? Someplace like Tiresavings.com or any other local suppliers?
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The shop is "Trends" in Bakersfield CA. Thats between Fresno and the "grape vine" route on I-5. They usually do imports and a few domestic cars and are "packed" with cars waiting to be "transformed." 661 323-6557 asks for Joe or Reuben only. They are the same guys that did my Silver Choptop, tell them that I refered you to them and (they) may offer a discount?
I WARN YOU: THEY ARE BACKED UP BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I should have more pics next week when I check -in on the progress:
New 2003 Celica headlamps. Rear bumper flared out 3" and finished side vents.
Bah, Bakersfield is waaay south of me. I was hoping to find something closer to San Jose. Used to be a place called D.C. Conversions here. Unfortunately the owner sold it to someone else (and is now called Liberty Conversions I think) and they only cater to the import crowd now and have a backlog much like Trends. The previous owner was the type that would tackle any sort of car/project, to bad I don't know where he is now-days. :/ Only other place I have found that would do custom work like I want is California Concepts (yes the place that does GM OEM work) in Redwood City. Its been a while since I have checked with them about doing custom work, so I am not sure whether they still do it or not.
Bah, Bakersfield is waaay south of me. I was hoping to find something closer to San Jose. Used to be a place called D.C. Conversions here. Unfortunately the owner sold it to someone else (and is now called Liberty Conversions I think) and they only cater to the import crowd now and have a backlog much like Trends. The previous owner was the type that would tackle any sort of car/project, to bad I don't know where he is now-days. :/ Only other place I have found that would do custom work like I want is California Concepts (yes the place that does GM OEM work) in Redwood City. Its been a while since I have checked with them about doing custom work, so I am not sure whether they still do it or not.[/QUOTE]
Yeah thats why I keep adding things to the car as they go. I didn't want to over-loard them with all of my ideas at one time. As long as it's inside the shop and in the way, they'll get around to it, because it's still in the way. hehehehehe
