Id say go with square lights over the round. The car has more edges than it does curves to flow with the rounds ones in my opinion.
Yes, I would agree. The round fog light don't flow with the "over-all" view. but thanks Kameo for demonstrating the lights any way. Hmmmmmm..........?
It seems "we" are in agreement on the round fog light being out. I was leaning towards the rectangular ones anyway. Plus it will go well with the new side markers that well be installed later. I'll give you guys a clue. There on are a car that came after our Fiero and also was on one the cars at the 20th?
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Here is a rendering Curly just sent me of what he is thinking about now.... sorta 90 prototype looking... I may have to run over there with my camera and take some pics of my own to see how this baby looks...
I’ve always liked that Fiero concept drawing you’re taking your inspiration from, though the Celica headlights give it a completely different look. I would like to see the original turn signals mimic the shape of the headlights to give it a more cohesive look. Plus if you look at the Celica these lights are placed on the outermost portion of the hood and run into the front fender area. The wider the headlamps are set apart, the wider the front will look. So I’d like to see them placed farther apart. As far as setting them farther back, again you best bet is to look at the Celica and see how far back they have them set. But placement is going to be pretty subjective in that area. Also, if you’re trying to capture the look of the concept car you’ll have to widen the upper fastback. The concept drawing gives the Fiero shoulders which the Fiero lacks. Plus you may want to consider trying the staggered wheel look from the concept, 18/20 or even 21 would be pretty wild and give the car that concept look. Color wise Corvette torch red is very bright but it does have an orange look to it in certain lights. Porsche reds have always been popular along with Ferrari red, the new Corvette C6 Precision Red might be a nice choice, though it looks like blood red next to the torch red. Hotrod books are a good resource to look for color choices. Color give the car personality, bright for sporty, light colors (whites, silvers) convey classiness, and black, grays for expensive. A bright color will ratchet up the wow factor, a subtle color will play better if you want folks to notice the bodywork more. Good luck.
I’ve always liked that Fiero concept drawing you’re taking your inspiration from, though the Celica headlights give it a completely different look. I would like to see the original turn signals mimic the shape of the headlights to give it a more cohesive look. Plus if you look at the Celica these lights are placed on the outermost portion of the hood and run into the front fender area. The wider the headlamps are set apart, the wider the front will look. So I’d like to see them placed farther apart. As far as setting them farther back, again you best bet is to look at the Celica and see how far back they have them set. But placement is going to be pretty subjective in that area. Also, if you’re trying to capture the look of the concept car you’ll have to widen the upper fastback. The concept drawing gives the Fiero shoulders which the Fiero lacks. Plus you may want to consider trying the staggered wheel look from the concept, 18/20 or even 21 would be pretty wild and give the car that concept look. Color wise Corvette torch red is very bright but it does have an orange look to it in certain lights. Porsche reds have always been popular along with Ferrari red, the new Corvette C6 Precision Red might be a nice choice, though it looks like blood red next to the torch red. Hotrod books are a good resource to look for color choices. Color give the car personality, bright for sporty, light colors (whites, silvers) convey classiness, and black, grays for expensive. A bright color will ratchet up the wow factor, a subtle color will play better if you want folks to notice the bodywork more. Good luck.
Thanks Choptop for the constructive comments.
Rim sizes: 18/21? I called HRE on 21's on they said, "we can make them." However, the largest diameter one can use in the stock rear (and still look low and bad) is 26.8. A 27.0 diameter will rub big time if it even slightley lowered. It has been demonstrated on a freinds 88Gt which were 255/40/19. He is now going to change over to stock rear springs too clear.
Fronts: 18's for the "old version" HRE's that are the style I have now suck big time. The 5-star spokes ain't elongated. So I passed on them and went 19's.
Okay, I'm back from hanging out with Songman. I had a Great time in his 3100.
Pics? 19's x 7.5 on 245/35/19s Toyos Proxes. yeah their short but will do the trick while heading out to Archie's soon.
Brakes? Lee/Held wanted a pic of the spring I used to reduce that noise while going over bad roads. It keeps the pads away from the rotors and reduces the chatter created while driving.
Rear bumber flare? Flared out 3" and down (Lowered) 2" for 20x11 later on. Looks groffy for now with little 19x7.5. These tires are maybe 1/16 away from spring perch.
Headlamps? Recess back by 2 1/2" Similar to the "Finale." It front fascia will slope into the lights as opposed to the first "pipe dream."
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This thread holds an awesome inspiring car that will be remembered for a long time...btw, being a fan of round fog lights I'd say go with them...They do clash with the boxier style of the Fiero BUT, look at it this way....Your eclectic sense has brought you this car, sooooooo???? Not too mention they do to add to the overall value by striking out on their own creating a future yet to come kinda thing....Or future about to pass
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Okay, my orders going in on the rectangular fog-lights that Kameo Kid demonstrated. The price is $340.......a little pricey but wil do the trick. The size is 2 1/16" high and 5 3/4" long I think? The lights come with a bracket that extends outward a bit. In my case, this mean the fog lights will not be totally recessed into the front bumper as much.
What so hot about them? Well the fog lights have (2) lamps, one can be used as a driving light, plus a front orange light. The orange light can take the place of the stock front light. The Celica's headlamps already have a turn marker in them and a driving light, so one or the other will be on?
Thanks Kameo for helping me out on the fog lights.
you have got to have the crappiest camera on earth known to man
its not a kodak moment, but good work
hehehehe.......I know. Songman is my camera man. He got lost and wind'd up at the shop with no camera. I'll pick him up on my next visit. By then the lights should ber replace and car readt to roll.
What is that?? cardboard or some type of thin wood?
I asked the same question back on page 2 of this thread. Curly described it as a thin compressed carboard type of material used to make molds or one off products.
Curley, I'd be tempted to lose some of the length on the outboard sides of the front end; something like this:
Yeah I agree. Thats why my glass man added the additional piece. He know its easier to remove vs. adding it. That way I don't get re-charged again. How will the front spoiler look? The only example is the after-market front kit for the newer Firebirds. The front spoiler will sport a 1-2" lip starting from the end of the open mouth going outward towards the corners. But right before the corner it will curve down another 1" ending up like the front end of the Silver Choptop were the side flares matching the Pisa rocker kit in height or lowness.
Thanks for your constructive comments....keep -up the good eye.
Bye-the-way, I have the PIAA 4000 Headlamps for the Fiero Redux now. These were similar to the ones Kameo Kid posted in pic here. But these have a driving light/foglight/marker light/and turn lihgt all in one unit. If you want to see them, I sent a pic to Exoticse. However, thier not bolted onto the car yet.
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any pix of the PIAA's beside the stock turnsignal/marker light... just for a size comparison?
...love those lights BTW, good choice!
Original posted on Fiero unveiling thread:
I got the PIAA 3000 but I found them too baby-ish for the opening. The ones that I got #4000 are bigger and will require some modification to the front fascia turn light housing but this is really no problem. The whole front fascia is getting re-done. However, the light was able to go-in backwards so that was good enough for me. I'll have my glass man cut-out some of the inner lip. It won't be flush but recessed back a little. Keep in mind, these are "all" pipe dream until its in, hehehe.
My secondary camera man can't be found (three day holiday) and Songman lives several miles away for better camera pics. My glass man has them so they should be in? But the shop is closed for the holiday, sorry no pics. The exact size is posted on the site kameo provided. I test fitted them at the shop last week. They fit-in backwards only (very tight, bluging out the inner lips) so there will need some cut'n on mainly the lower lip and some of the upper?
Also the Celica's lights are re-cessed by 2" and the front fascia has a straight lip prior to meeting up with the Celica headlamps. The front Pisa rocker panel is re-cessed back in the back area where of the front wheel. I didn't like that flaring out, looked stupid to me (between the front door and panel). The car is just about finished it's just a few minor touches that I need to have them perfect. I'll have the 20x11's on by June 9th or 10th for a pic? If car is fixed before the West fest show I might drive it up there if knowone is embaressed by all of the primer?
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Those round fog lights are but ugly though. Squares better.
