Wow.... amazing what the cars been transformed into.
Its gone from plain 88 coupe with just a few options... to a street machine and a half
reminds me of a tuner transformation, an then some!

it sounds like its made a great platform for a build up.
How many mine does it have now?

Thanks Archie,

Just got my laptop Connected.

The 4-banger only had about 88,000 still running strong but totally out of place in a chop top. I would have liked to keep it but if I'm going to do any more swaps it wont be to install a 4 banger.

Here is a shot of the roof. My brother is fitting with inches of headroom to spare and he is about 6 foot even.

z Mack I'm glad you approve of the changes. I will have the Car in Toronto in September maybe we can hook up.

-Jonathan

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quote Originally posted by NotAFieroAnyLonger: WoW... I am in shock.. I will post more later when I can breath again...

Well... I feel a little better now...

J~..
Man, I never saw this coming.. NEVER! I know you have talked about wanting to do this for awhile!
Congrat's!! {bow's to you}
I am glad to see you go with the 4.9L. Now maybe the 4.xL will get a lil' respect!!
What else do you have planned for this monster..??
When are you driving back..??
Maybe if you come through East Texas {Tyler} maybe Loki will see this and us 3 can get together somewhere..
What color are you gong with..?? I may have missed it, but I would suggest Navy Blue with navy and cresm interior.... That's the color I am going with "SmoothGT" after I get finished.. NEVER!

Anyway's.. Congrat's Master J!!

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Custom Built -- W I D E B O D Y-- GT!!
One of One!!

More pics Jscott,..can't get enough of this baby.

I am a hardline wing guy too, but damn you are right it does look good without the wing. Chop tops are just sharp period !

quote Originally posted by jscott1: Thanks Archie, Just got my laptop Connected. The 4-banger only had about 88,000 still running strong but totally out of place in a chop top. I would have liked to keep it but if I'm going to do any more swaps it wont be to install a 4 banger. Here is a shot of the roof. My brother is fitting with inches of headroom be spare and he is about 6 foot even. z Mack I'm glad you approve of the changes. I will have the Car in Toronto in September maybe we can hook up. -Jonathan

Very, very nice. Suggestion: Before you paint it, PM' me. I have a few ideas for your choptop you might like?. Hey, your already there!

quote Originally posted by exoticse: More pics Jscott,..can't get enough of this baby.

Okay, if you guys want to see more of a multi-color work in progress chop top then I love to share.

ooooooooo! that is awsome!! congrats, i would love to see it when ur in toronto,
oh and congradulations on getting a new digital camera! lol

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Jonathan--I am a huge wing fan but the more I see your "new" car, the more I think that you should leave it wingless. (Not that my opinion matters any.) Great job you've done so far. (And kudos to Archie and PBJ.) If you're coming through north central Indiana on your way home, feel free to drop by. I don't have much to offer but I'd love to see your car and I can probably offer you a great rate on a nice motel room (wife works at one nearby--subject to availability, of course).

Dave

Wingless all the way!

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quote Originally posted by Archie: So you gotta wonder what unique features will the next chop top have.

I'd let you chop the pro street, but my head already touches the roof now with the floors raised up!

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My vote is wingless!!! I love this pic...it just looks plain MEAN!!

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http://www.tekchip.com/ferrari

Looks awesome! ....with no wing! There's no reason to punch holes in a perfectly good decklid. If you have an extra lid, you should bolt a wing on to it and swap them out and see which one you like better. I personally like the no wing look on a chop top. Looks sleek and exotic.

Will the car/you be at PBJ's on the 14th? It'd be awesome if you could come on the cruise!

quote Originally posted by XRacer Pro: My vote is wingless!!! I love this pic...it just looks plain MEAN!!

I agree it looks really good wingless, I think I would bolt-on a different decklid just to see what it would look like.

I won't be there on the 14th but Pete will still have the Cer.

quote Originally posted by jscott1:

I always liked wingless fieros...a chopped one looks even better! Keep it clean!

quote Originally posted by jscott1: I agree it looks really good wingless, I think I would bolt-on a different decklid just to see what it would look like. I won't be there on the 14th but Pete will still have the Cer.

Don't worry we'll test it for you. I bet if Pete charges $10 a ride we might be able to afford the gas

quote Originally posted by jscott1:

Is it just me but doesn't Archie's TRASH even look very interesting. seems like Good junk there to me....

Oh and Jon...I was just checking what Charcol GREY would look like...

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quote Originally posted by revin: Is it just me but doesn't Archie's TRASH even look very interesting. seems like Good junk there to me.... Oh and Jon...I was just checking what Charcol GREY would look like...

One mans Junks is another man treasure now about your Photo shop skills. They are mad, best I have eva seen.

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jscott1................Thats a pretty sweet car you are building, with the help of Archie of course , and if you ask me, i say that wingless is the way to go! Keep up the Good work! and i hope to see more pix comming

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I own an original yellow 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT, (wingless, currently purple) and very proud....Truly is.....Driving Exitement!

Matching numbers GT
#17889 of 26,402 made in 1988

Yea....me too! .... keep it wingless and keep it clean...
Those rims look great too!

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84 Fiero- 6.6 V8

one word...
WHALETAIL!!

I think he said he's going to use a wing with stands or extentions on it? I don't know how tall? However, if he goes "wingless" it's still a BAAAAD car!

IMO use a Camero bow tie wing. That way you have the best of both worlds. You can always bring another to Archie if you can't make up your mind, right?

Question: Jscott What type of headliner are you going to use? Got any more pics?

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quote Originally posted by madcurl: I think he said he's going to use a wing with stands or extentions on it? I don't know how tall? Question: Jscott What type of headliner are you going to use? Got any more pics?

I've got 5 inch wing stands from the Fiero Warehouse, but with all the votes for wingless I might use them on a different project. I will probably do as suggested and get a second decklid and try it both ways and see which I like better.

I've got a stock headliner that Archie graciously donated to me then cut it down, My old one was great while it was is the car but once It came down it was a mess.

I've posted nearly every pic that to took before leaving the car with Pete. By tomorrow I should start getting updates on the 4.9 swap.

this one looks like they are trying to mate and produce those little chop, top turbo 4.9s

Look what followed me into Canada!

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The reason why I asked about the headliner was since some of the replacement are made of fiberglass, I painted mine to match the outside car's color. What i wanted to do on my next one is to used carbon fiber on all of the fiberglass part and dash. Sppy's knows a company that can just about cover anything with this special carbon fiber process. Any part or piece that can be painted .

So far, what has been the reaction from the neighbors? Will, heading back home? I know I had a lot of looke-lues while driving back from Archie's.

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Welcome to the club. Sorry to sound like a broken record, but drive defensively. Try to stay out of folks blind spots and don't pull up too close behind folks because they will not see you behind them. I agree with moving the spoiler back but I still feel the stock height looks best. I'd like to see a 18/20 wheel combo, alloy wheels, chrome finish.

The only reaction I've had So far was on the way to Pete's house, there were some very interested people checking it out at a gas station, wanted to know what it was, what color I was painting it, Etc. Since it is probable the only chop top in Canada right now they had never seen anything like it. I'm not going to get the car home for at least or month, so other reactions to follow.

I'm still undecided on the spoiler thing but I have a while to think about it. I'm still making my way back to Houston. Here's a question... I've driven 3,000 miles through 19 states and 1 province and did not see a single Fiero on the road. Are they all gone?

quote Originally posted by NotAFieroAnyLonger: one word... WHALETAIL!!

Hmmm.... I like this idea

Hey JScott, how tall are you? From the pic with Archie, you seem to be 6 Feet tall. Did you try a choptop out first or did you just went for it? Looks like Archie got you by a couple of inches (in height).

which tranny you goin' with on the swap?

let me throw in my 2 cents too, a mustang stallion wing (or if you go with a raised stock wing, lenthen the ends like madcurls or the ppe) and a sage chin extension. once you add those wide rocker scoops, you almost have to do the rest to balance things out.

one more. if you go with stock facias to go with the archie rocker scoops consider filling in the seam where it looks like the ground effects are added on (where it changes from red to silver on your chopper facias), or try to make the rocker scoops look like they have it too. it makes the bottom flow better when you look at it.

jscott1
congratulation on your new chop-top, and welcome to the club.
I know you almost bought the GBCT from Joel, but I'm sure you will love making your own car even better. { I did get the air fixed on the GBCT }

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Well.... it's about time you made the announcment! Not that I would ...slip... or anything like that . I can't wait to see the finished product. Regarding a color, I vote for Dodge Viper red!

Congrats,

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double-click on this link to follow my interior build-up https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/023174.html

Blue 87 GT w/ 4th generation Firebird interior.
Suncoast Fieros

Judged "Best Custom Interior" at the 20th Anniversary Show @ Pontiac, Mich - 7/2003
Judged "Best Custom Interior" at the 8th Annual Fiero Fun Weekend @ Daytona - 3/2004

Thanks for all the suggestions. That's one reason to make this public while it's still a work in progress.

I don't know about the whale tail... If I do anything it will be a stocker on stands, but I will move it back and I like the way the stands look filled in.

As DL10 revealed I nearly bought the GBCT, which I sat in and drove. I fit just fine in a chop top. I think ultimately I will enjoy building this to my specifications rather than buying a turnkey.

My tranny will be the 4T60E or whatever comes with the engine. This car is an auto and everything I read tells me that the 4T60 is the best tranny for the 4.9.

As for the chin, I prefer the Lawrence/Skitime chin spoiler, it flexible and cheap...I have at least 2 ripped fascias to build one from.

I need to find a good fiberglass person to fill in all these seams though, I know my skills are not up to it, and I agree it looks better. Color suggestions, and photoshops, are appreciated too.

Today's progress, it's not a 4 banger anymore...

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is it a no-banger??? lol so are you going to turbo this or is it going to be NA?

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www.KylesFiero.tk www.XoticRydz.tk

quote Originally posted by TaurusThug: is it a no-banger??? lol so are you going to turbo this or is it going to be NA?

I asked Pete if he had any more turbos laying around. No such luck, so NA.

This is also our first 4 cyl to 4.9 swap. It looked like you could put the 4.9 in beside the 2.5 with all the open space in the engine compartment. It has also been a long time since I drove a 2.5 auto, but now since I have it is interesting to drive around and see the fuel guage not move very fast but also the tach and speedo does not move very fast either but we will fix that.

Pete

quote Originally posted by jscott1:

The best two pics so far. way to go.

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-Chris - Custom Gun Metal 86 GT 3.4 5spd
3.4 SOLD & 4.9 being installed

"It's too low, too rough, too loud, drinks gas, it's totally impractical, but damn good lookin. In other words, It's almost perfect!"
Build up tread or MODS w/ Pics

quote Originally posted by jscott1: I need to find a good fiberglass person to fill in all these seams though, I know my skills are not up to it, and I agree it looks better.

Hummmmm I wonder if I could help ya there???? close to home. nice guy. has done bodywork on his....

OR GET A PRO TO DO IT !!!

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98 3800SC GTP motor,3.4 pulley, Getrag 5sp.
custom hood, trunk, side scoops, IRM front spoiler, 17" excel's , dk.Shadow Grey

Hey Jscott,

I know it is a ways off, but have u begun to think about what rims you might possibly want ?? Any thoughts to the wheel size combo you plan to go with ?

If you decide to ditch the wing stands let me know, i plan to go with 5 ' wing stands.

Before you decide to ditch the wing idea,. go back and look at this:

^ Is madcurl's wingstands molded into the decklid?

quote Originally posted by Iron_Mark_2003: ^ Is madcurl's wingstands molded into the decklid?

Yes. I live in CA.......the wing capital of the world for imports. Thief(s) will steal anything if it ain't bolted and molded in. Notice I don't have a antenna. Some people must love stealing them and chrome valve stems.