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3800 Conversion Mounts are back ! by PURPLE REIGN
Started on | : 10-30-2006 02:46 AM |
Replies | : 696 (49206 views) |
Last post by | : Twoolz on 05-07-2017 11:47 AM |
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Dec 3rd, 2006
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Jncomutt Member Posts: 8902 From: Charlotte, NC Registered: Apr 2001
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Its possible, I haven't really looked. I found this one first, and bolted it on. Have any suggestions other than this ford 3.8 tensioner?
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10:06 PM
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Dec 4th, 2006
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BoostedSeries1 Member Posts: 209 From: Farmersville,TX. USA Registered: Aug 2006
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Not to take sides but when ordered my 3.8 engine mounts and polly for the 5 speed I was on my own and wasn't part of pff nor did I even know about it and was also not making it to my local fiero club meets so I had no one to talk to about all this. I got my parts no more than 2 years ago and just now took measurments of them ( I was amazed at all the bad talk about the WCF parts) to see for my self. The engine adapter bracket is 1/4" thick, and so is the plates that are used on the polly mounts... I can only think that things have changed and maybe the guys at WCF have been doing better....
As I have already said I have not had a problem with WCF stuff thus far (also have never delt with them ever befor now) but it seems to me that there are alot of people that have had bad experiences and I can only go bye what other people tell me.
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02:37 AM
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PaulJK Member Posts: 6638 From: Los Angeles Registered: Oct 2001
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Boosted - if you have not had a problem with WCF, you are either really lucky or just have not dealt with them very long, but please ... let's not take the interest off of Purple's hard work  . {bump}
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03:05 AM
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PURPLE REIGN Member Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by PaulJK:
Boosted - if you have not had a problem with WCF, you are either really lucky or just have not dealt with them very long, but please ... let's not take the interest off of Purple's hard work .
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Thanks Paul.......................I think it's the same thing. He was just plain lucky, during some small window of time when someone gave a damn for a little while. My guess is early on they might have used a quality 1/4 steel. But at the time I built my car & the other Minnesota'ns were doing their swaps, our mounts failed miserably and appeared to have gone down to a 3/16 or smaller inferior metal to cut costs. Cause let me tell you, this stuff is EXPENSIVE to laser out & bend.
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10:36 AM
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spookything Member Posts: 268 From: Toronto, ON, Canada Registered: Oct 2003
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I have been involved in the design and manufacture of engine conversion mounts and understand that it is mostly thankless. People only mention the failures but only expect the successes. When you develop a mount, it will be coppied and sold for less money. This may be what Purple is doing, but I don't know for sure. Regardless, I made my choice based on the info I could find. The pics of what purple has made look better. West coast has a militant ex employee coming to their defence at every chance. They run a business but I hear of shipping delays. It seems like Purple does this on the side and also has delays but as a sideline those delays are more excusable. For better or worse Purple posts online. West Coast does not seem to. I chose Purple. All I have to hope for now is that I chose correctly. I will be able to form a preliminary opinion on Christmas Eve when presents are opened as long as he ships quickly. I will form a final opinion when I have driven the car for a few months. There, free bump with some content. Rick ------------------
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08:24 PM
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Dec 5th, 2006
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PURPLE REIGN Member Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by spookything:
I have been involved in the design and manufacture of engine conversion mounts and understand that it is mostly thankless. People only mention the failures but only expect the successes. When you develop a mount, it will be coppied and sold for less money. This may be what Purple is doing, but I don't know for sure. Regardless, I made my choice based on the info I could find. The pics of what purple has made look better. West coast has a militant ex employee coming to their defence at every chance. They run a business but I hear of shipping delays. It seems like Purple does this on the side and also has delays but as a sideline those delays are more excusable. For better or worse Purple posts online. West Coast does not seem to. I chose Purple. All I have to hope for now is that I chose correctly. I will be able to form a preliminary opinion on Christmas Eve when presents are opened as long as he ships quickly. I will form a final opinion when I have driven the car for a few months.
There, free bump with some content.
Rick
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Thanks........................shipping should be in the morning.
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12:08 AM
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spookything Member Posts: 268 From: Toronto, ON, Canada Registered: Oct 2003
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Excellent. Rick ------------------
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01:03 AM
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dguy Member Posts: 2416 From: Beckwith Township, ON, Canada Registered: Jan 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by PURPLE REIGN:
Interesting...........................the last guy I shipped to in Canada said not to go USPS cause it takes forever to get there  |
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Did I just hear my name?  Sorry, what I meant was to not ship via USPS ground, and use USPS air instead if possible. I think USPS ground secretly uses an old Caprice Classic with an old man in a hat behind the wheel.  USPS's air service is lightning fast by comparison. UPS (FedEx & DHL as well) charge relatively high brokerage fees in addition to any taxes or import duties; the post office by comparison charges next to nothing.
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07:41 AM
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Dec 6th, 2006
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PURPLE REIGN Member Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
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dguy Member Posts: 2416 From: Beckwith Township, ON, Canada Registered: Jan 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by PURPLE REIGN:
Ahhhhhhhhh.............................thanks for the info. Does this also apply to overseas packages ??? |
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As far as I know, yes it does. At least that's what my understanding is based on the last time I read a courier's import policy in detail.
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09:06 AM
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Dec 9th, 2006
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PURPLE REIGN Member Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
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All shipments are out.
Everyone should see thier packages by Christmas for sure.
All that's left to do is 1 Alt bracket.
THANKS TO EVERYONE
Still a few sets in stock & ready to ship.
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03:00 AM
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PFF
System Bot
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Dec 11th, 2006
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greengoblin0129 Member Posts: 2670 From: Indy Registered: Mar 2005
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Mounts look GREAT! Can't wait to get the engine running, i'm now one step closer. Thanks for your help.
Ryan
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04:37 PM
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motoracer838 Member Posts: 3751 From: Edgewater Co. USofA Registered: Jan 2006
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Got mine, these are some stout parts. I can't wait to get the garage cleaned out so I can get started.
When things go wrong, don't follow them. Joe
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07:09 PM
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Dec 12th, 2006
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spookything Member Posts: 268 From: Toronto, ON, Canada Registered: Oct 2003
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OK, so mine were shipped too? I asked the wife last night and she said they were not here yet. Rick PS Legitimate Bump ------------------
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05:55 PM
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PURPLE REIGN Member Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by spookything:
OK, so mine were shipped too?
I asked the wife last night and she said they were not here yet.
Rick
PS Legitimate Bump
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Yes they were shipped..................and it cost me an extra $39.50 to AIR them to Canada. I usually cover shipping up to $10.00 in the states and Canada customers usually pay the difference once the amount is determined. I forgot to P.M. you the details.
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11:38 PM
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Dec 14th, 2006
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yellow fever Member Posts: 280 From: Sioux Falls SD USA Registered: May 2002
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Are there any automatic tranny brackets left.I will take a set if so. $110 for the pair right
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07:54 PM
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Dec 15th, 2006
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PURPLE REIGN Member Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by yellow fever:
Are there any automatic tranny brackets left.I will take a set if so. $110 for the pair right |
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On the shelf.......................awaiting shipment
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01:17 AM
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chaosfinity Member Posts: 129 From: Independence, Missouri Registered: Jun 2005
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I was wondering if your mounts will work with the WCF transmission brackets, my grandma ordered them for Christmas i wanted to order the manual kit from you since it doesnt have the brackets if they will still work with the transmission mounts [This message has been edited by chaosfinity (edited 12-15-2006).]
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11:18 AM
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yellow fever Member Posts: 280 From: Sioux Falls SD USA Registered: May 2002
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Payment sent. Thank you
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10:39 PM
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Dec 16th, 2006
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PURPLE REIGN Member Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by chaosfinity:
I was wondering if your mounts will work with the WCF transmission brackets, my grandma ordered them for Christmas i wanted to order the manual kit from you since it doesnt have the brackets if they will still work with the transmission mounts
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It's safe to assume you mean brackets that fit the manual trans ??? They should work with both stock & WCF trans brackets.
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03:47 AM
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Dec 17th, 2006
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greengoblin0129 Member Posts: 2670 From: Indy Registered: Mar 2005
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I'll go ahead and take a low-alt braket as well. Only problem is my 2.8 bracket is cracked into but I have both pieces. How do you want me to do this as far as sending in my 2.8 bracket? Please let me know, paypal ready to go.
Thanks, Ryan
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02:59 PM
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PFF
System Bot
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PURPLE REIGN Member Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by greengoblin0129:
I'll go ahead and take a low-alt braket as well. Only problem is my 2.8 bracket is cracked into but I have both pieces. How do you want me to do this as far as sending in my 2.8 bracket? Please let me know, paypal ready to go.
Thanks, Ryan |
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Just send the 2.8 bracket in pieces, I'll probably be able to repair it.
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09:10 PM
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greengoblin0129 Member Posts: 2670 From: Indy Registered: Mar 2005
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| quote | Originally posted by PURPLE REIGN:
Just send the 2.8 bracket in pieces, I'll probably be able to repair it. |
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Sounds good, PM me a address!
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10:05 PM
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Dec 19th, 2006
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chaosfinity Member Posts: 129 From: Independence, Missouri Registered: Jun 2005
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| quote | Originally posted by PURPLE REIGN:
It's safe to assume you mean brackets that fit the manual trans ??? They should work with both stock & WCF trans brackets. |
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No, I have an auto trans with WCF trans brackets and was wondering if your poly mounts will work with that or will it end up making the engine tilt because of metal thicknesses?
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08:43 AM
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PURPLE REIGN Member Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by chaosfinity:
No, I have an auto trans with WCF trans brackets and was wondering if your poly mounts will work with that or will it end up making the engine tilt because of metal thicknesses? |
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They will work just fine with those brackets. Beware that the rearward, larger trans bracket likes to bend under high HP applications
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10:25 AM
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Dec 20th, 2006
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Fie Ro Member Posts: 3735 From: Soest, The Netherlands Registered: Sep 2001
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| quote | Originally posted by PURPLE REIGN:
Ahhhhhhhhh.............................thanks for the info. Does this also apply to overseas packages ??? |
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We will find out  I need an engine bracket, you will get a pm
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01:18 PM
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Dec 21st, 2006
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spookything Member Posts: 268 From: Toronto, ON, Canada Registered: Oct 2003
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Well tomorrow is the last day that the package could arrive before Xmas. Is there any chance you could get me a tracking number? Thanks Rick P.S. I will address the extra you had to pay for shipping as soon as I see the package. ------------------
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04:57 PM
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greengoblin0129 Member Posts: 2670 From: Indy Registered: Mar 2005
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PM sent
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05:47 PM
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Dec 22nd, 2006
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PURPLE REIGN Member Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by spookything:
Well tomorrow is the last day that the package could arrive before Xmas. Is there any chance you could get me a tracking number?
Thanks
Rick
P.S. I will address the extra you had to pay for shipping as soon as I see the package.
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Well here's what I have for info It was shipped on 12/8/06 from "Lost Lake Branch" USPS Plymounth, MN. to Canada via Air Parcel. 23lbs 11.8oz Customs form # CP138686365US It was signed & checked for Air/Priority and checked to be sent back if undeliverable. There doesn't apper to be any other valuble info on it.
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02:04 AM
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Racingman24 Member Posts: 2304 From: Land of 10,000 Idiots Registered: Apr 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by PURPLE REIGN:
Well here's what I have for info
It was shipped on 12/8/06 from "Lost Lake Branch" USPS Plymounth, MN. to Canada via Air Parcel. 23lbs 11.8oz Customs form # CP138686365US
It was signed & checked for Air/Priority and checked to be sent back if undeliverable.
There doesn't apper to be any other valuble info on it.
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Shouldn't you be sleeping?!?!?!
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02:05 AM
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PURPLE REIGN Member Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by Racingman24:
Shouldn't you be sleeping?!?!?! |
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Just got home at that time That's how I get to sleep in.......................
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06:22 PM
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PFF
System Bot
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Dec 29th, 2006
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PURPLE REIGN Member Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
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I'm just curious if everyone got thier parts ???
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12:08 PM
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Fie Ro Member Posts: 3735 From: Soest, The Netherlands Registered: Sep 2001
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| quote | Originally posted by PURPLE REIGN: I'm just curious if everyone got thier parts ??? |
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No  did you read my last pm? let me know the total and I will paypal. Thanks
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08:54 PM
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PURPLE REIGN Member Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by Fie Ro:
No did you read my last pm? let me know the total and I will paypal. Thanks
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Yes  I know I need to send that one. I'll P.M. the details.
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10:49 PM
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Dec 30th, 2006
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htexans1 Member Posts: 9114 From: Clear Lake City/Houston TX Registered: Sep 2001
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I have questions. I don't want to "kill" my Fiero yet, and I am in the gathering parts stage. Can I pay you an additional fee instead of taking my 2.8 bracket off the car now? I'd rather have all the parts, mounts, harness ready and brackets so I can minimize downtime. If I had a decent junk yard here, i'd just go get a bracket, but since I can't find a junk fiero, thats what lead me to ask about a possible "fee" in lieu of my bracket. Of course after the 3800 is installed, i'd have no problem giving you the bracket. Let me know. I'll be needing a set of mounts and a bracket for the 3800. Fastfieros may be getting a harness/ECM order soon too  (1988 Formula, Automatic-- to 3800 and 4 speed Auto) ------------------ 1988 Fiero Formula T-tops CJB 143 of 1252 "factory T-top cars"
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06:42 PM
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Dec 31st, 2006
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PURPLE REIGN Member Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
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Jan 2nd, 2007
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PURPLE REIGN Member Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
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Hmmmm....................... I suppose everyone is out installing thier engines ???  [This message has been edited by PURPLE REIGN (edited 01-02-2007).]
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11:54 PM
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Jan 4th, 2007
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greengoblin0129 Member Posts: 2670 From: Indy Registered: Mar 2005
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Hows the alt bracket comin? Will the one I sent you work for it? If not, let me know.
Thanks man, couldn't do the swap with out your parts haha
-Ryan
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10:22 PM
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Jan 5th, 2007
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PURPLE REIGN Member Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by greengoblin0129:
Hows the alt bracket comin? Will the one I sent you work for it? If not, let me know.
Thanks man, couldn't do the swap with out your parts haha
-Ryan |
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Still working on the brackets. At the same time trying real hard to get a towing contract with a local dealer to help keep the shop busy. Anyhow I should get the tensioner tommorrow & hopefully ship them soon. I think I'll try to repair the one you sent, even though it's broken pretty bad. I'll just use it on a buddy's conversion & not make it into a saleable bracket.
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01:03 AM
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Jan 9th, 2007
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daniel87fierogt Member Posts: 1793 From: Northern California Registered: Oct 2003
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I thought you only did mounts, i didnt know you did low mount alt brackets too. How much do you charge to make up a low mount alt bracket using the 1998 3800 altenator?
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01:34 AM
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