What I'd like to do is create a very simple web app to get started. The app would primarily function to enable users to view data and add data. The "adds" would be moderated by a select few members to ensure the information is good.
These are the fields I think I would start with for the Fiero table.
I suppose we could include the roof type in options? I usually round the mileage down if the 4th digit in the odometer is under 5, or I round it up if it is.
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VIN: 1G2PE11R9JP209835 Year: 1988 Type: Coupe Exterior: Red Wheels: Turbo aluminum Interior: Gray Seats: Dark gray suede/velour Options: Sport/Western package with spoiler and body colored lower rear bumper trim, power nothing, automatic transmission, T-Tops, Engine: 2.5L Transmission: Automatic Location: Long Island, NY Mileage: 206,000 Condition: Rough Status: Auctioned off as a salvage vehicle on April 30, 2014 PFF Member: None http://www.autobidmaster.co...IERO_LONG_ISLAND_NY/
How many cars have been junked? How many cars are GTs? What percent of cars have been reported? How many are now kit rebodys? How many cars are 5 speeds?
No real way to tell if the salvage vehicles have been junked. Adding to that, it would be cool if we could see how many of each body style are registered, and how many of each transmission type. I'm still willing to register other years as well.
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VIN: 1G2PE11R4JP215008 Year: 1988 Type: Coupe Exterior: White Wheels: Turbo aluminum Interior: Gray Seats: Gray cloth Options: Automatic transmission, no sunroof or trunk release, aftermarket spoiler, dual exhaust, aftermarket "Fiero" side stripes Engine: 2.5L Transmission: Automatic Location: San Jose, CA Mileage: 134,000 Condition: Hit in left rear, cracked fiberglass Status: Auctioned off as a salvage vehicle on January 26, 2010 PFF Member: None http://www.autobidmaster.com/carfinder-online-auto-auctions/lot/8310780/COPART_1988_PONTIAC_FIERO_SALVAGE_CERTIFICATE_SA N_JOSE_CA/
VIN: 1G2PE11R7JP209106 Year: 1988 Type: Coupe Exterior: Silver Wheels: Turbo aluminum Interior: Gray cloth Options: Power nothing, big drag style tach with shift light, red 84 decklid, no trunk release Engine: 2.5L Transmission: Manual Location: Hartford, CT Mileage: 154,000 Condition: A little messed up in the front Status: Auctioned off as a salvage vehicle on April 15, 2014 PFF Member: None http://www.autobidmaster.co...IERO_ST_HARTFORD_CT/
Sure we could ask it those questions, but it would still depend on the number of vehicles that have been recorded into the database.
Some assumptions would have to be made in order to garner usable statistics.
For instance, if you want to know the number of Formulas that are registered and have their original 2.8 in them... You'd use the existing records as a sample of the whole.
If the database contains 650 Formulas and we assume this is a random sample of the 5484 Formulas that were originally built, and 200 (about 30%) are registered and of those 100 are motor swapped, then we can assume approx 15% of the 5484 Formulas that were built are registered and original for a total of about 822 cars. (These are just made up figures)
Of course you know what they say about assumptions... It comes down to where you guys are getting most of the information from.
I think this would be a fun app to build guys... I wouldn't have the time to enter in all the data however so I'd be looking for help. In order to not waste anybody's time I'd say give me a little time to build the basic framework and then we can look into moving all the information over from here on the forums into the application database. Proof of concept before anything.
I have supported and helped John along the way in his efforts and in return he has help me with any little data he might get for my 1988 Fiero t top cars (that I have been collecting since 1991). I hope if you take on this project you continue to add the "ROOF TYPE" in this app it is very important for the history of the car and options out there on all 88 Fieros.
There's no need for a Roof Type field. Sunroof and T-tops would be selectable options that could be attributed to the record.
I think a really good feature of the app would be to hard code in a VIN decoder so that original car information could be displayed next to the most currently known configuration of the car.
Perhaps, also, the ability for site members to assume ownership of their car records and add additional details and notes.
Yes, I meant being able to see how many of each model from what we've already recorded. By registered, do you mean registered for street use? I assume that 822 would be the made up total amount of cars in the database. I've gotten 100% of my information online, and not from real life sightings. I can enter data for the cars. Let's see how this goes
I think allowing members to assume ownership and add extra notes is a good idea. Sometimes pictures are unavailable with the ones I find online, though.
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VIN: 1G2PE1192JP202595 Year: 1988 Type: Formula with a (very bad) Countach rebody Exterior: Burnt Orange Wheels: 90s chrome aftermarket ones Interior: Black and gray Seats: Covered Options: Automatic transmission, no sunroof, no trunk release, power nothing Engine: 2.8L Transmission: Automatic Location: Arleta, CA Mileage: 118,000 Condition: Good for what it is Status: For sale PFF Member: http://www.carsforsale.com/...-arleta-ca-225136775
VIN: 1G2PE1194JP208379 Year: 1988 Type: Formula Exterior: Red Wheels: Black lace Interior: Gray Seats: Gray cloth Options: Power nothing, no trunk release Engine: 2.8L Transmission: Manual Location: Omaha, NE Mileage: 72,000 Condition: Good Status: For sale for $4,995 PFF Member: None http://www.cars.com/go/sear...Id=610772617&aff=aol
VIN: 1G2PE11R8JP201970 Year: 1988 Type: Coupe Exterior: Originally Red, now Yellow and Black Wheels: Aftermarket Interior: Originally Gray, now Charcole Gray/Black Seats: Coupe Gray covered with Iggee Black/Yellow Options: Originally only AC. Wing, T-Tops, PW, PDL added Engine: 2.5 modified with Accelerated Motion cam, roller rockers Transmission: Isuzu manual 5-speed Location: Lawrenceville, GA Mileage: 220,000+ Condition: Good Status: Daily driver PFF Member: TopNotch
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VIN: 1G2PG119XJP209479 Year: 1988 Type: GT Exterior: Red repaint Wheels: Gold lace Interior: Tan Seats: Cloth (I think) Options: Spoiler, aftermarket chin spoiler, solid roof Engine: 2.8L Transmission: Manual Location: Pompano Beach, FL Mileage: 36,000 Condition: Good Status: I don't know why the heck the seller didn't include a photo of the whole interior. There's also a whole lotta jibber jabber in the seller's notes, but it's for sale for $15,900 PFF Member: None http://www.cars.com/go/sear...d=611227521&aff=vast
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VIN: 1G2PE11RXJP219774 Year: 1988 Type: Coupe Exterior: Yellow Wheels: Turbo aluminum Interior: Gray Seats: Cloth Options: PDL, solid roof, bare decklid, no decklid release, rear defroster, automatic transmission Engine: 2.5L Transmission: Automatic Location: Lincoln, NE Mileage: 105,000 Condition: Good Status: This oddly optioned car is for sale for $3,500 PFF Member: None http://www.cars.com/go/sear...d=138687052&aff=vast
VIN: 1G2PG1196JP205381 Year: 1988 Type: GT with Murcielago rebody Exterior: Orange repaint Wheels: Black aftermarket Interior: Black and orange Seats: Leather Options: PW, PM, Momo steering wheel and shift knob, custom console Engine: 2.8L Transmission: Manual Location: Roselle, IL Mileage: 2,000 (I assumed after the rebody was installed) Condition: Good Status: For sale. Looks to be well built. PFF Member: None http://www.cars.com/go/sear...d=607986279&aff=vast
VIN: 1G2PE11R6JP224132 Year: 1988 Type: Coupe Exterior: Black Wheels: Turbo aluminum Interior: ? Seats: ? Options: bare decklid Engine: 2.5L Transmission: Manual Location: Des Moines, IA Mileage: 84,000 Condition: Status: For sale for 3 grand PFF Member: None http://www.autozin.com/Pont...AC-FIERO,171513.html
VIN: 1G2PE1196JP223546 Year: 1988 Type: Formula Exterior: Black repaint Wheels: Black lace Interior: Gray Seats: Cloth I assume Options: Solid roof (I think), automatic transmission Engine: 2.8L Transmission: Automatic Location: Cincinnati, OH Mileage: 123,000 Condition: Good Status: One family owned car for sale for $3,500 PFF Member: None http://www.autozin.com/Pont...ly-owner,204192.html
VIN: 1G2PE11R0JP206922 Year: 1988 Type: Coupe Exterior: Red Wheels: Aftermarket Interior: Gray Seats: Cloth Options: Sunroof Engine: 2.5L Transmission: Manual Location: Central Valley, NY Mileage: 101,000 Condition: Good but needs work Status: For sale for $1700 PFF Member: None http://www.autozin.com/Pont...iac-Fiero,34971.html
VIN: 1G2PG1195JP209616 Year: 1988 Type: GT Exterior: Red Wheels: Black lace I assume Interior: ? Seats: Cloth Options: "Most options" Engine: 2.8L Transmission: Automatic Location: Fairfield, AL Mileage: 88,000 Condition: Good Status: For sale for $7000 PFF Member: None http://www.autozin.com/Pont...-Fiero-GT,41196.html
VIN: 1G2PE11R0JP224899 Year: 1988 Type: Coupe Exterior: Green repaint Wheels: Turbo aluminum Interior: Tan Seats: Beige leather Options: Power nothing, automatic transmission, originally with a bare decklid Engine: 1995 3.8 N/A Transmission: Automatic Location: Orland Park, IL Mileage: 134,000 miles on body, 39,000 on engine Condition: Good Status: For sale for $3,000 with aftermarket exhaust, holley side intake, aftermarket horns PFF Member: None http://classiccars.com/list...-park-illinois-60467
VIN: 1G2PG1197JP217667 Year: 1988 Type: GT Exterior: Red Wheels: black lace Interior: Gray Seats: cloth Options: A/C, pw, Transmission: Auto Location: Florida Mileage: 57,000 Condition: Status: For Sale on Ebay PFF Member: no
It comes down to where you guys are getting most of the information from. 
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