Howdy! It looks as though this is the place to look for the '88's. Here is the info on the car that was supposed to be me dream car that I purchased seven years ago in Chicago. Vin: 1G2PE11R2JP206386 2.5 4cyl 5spd Red, no power options, no sunroof, solid bodypanels, bumped and bruised bumpers, all good glass, working headlights, undriveable in present condition due to extesive rust (frame and engine cradle), and collision damage to undercarriage and gas tank from large cement block.
Did a quick forum search and did not find this one here, so if anyone is still collecting this data, here it is.
VIN: 1G2PG1190JP212732 Year: 1988 Type: GT Exterior: Medium Metallic Red Wheels: Gold lace Interior: Beechwood Seats: Tan cloth Options: automatic transmission, power windows, power locks and mirrors, cruise. Engine: 2.8L Transmission: Automatic Location:Wi Mileage: Just over 83K Condition: Good but a respray that will be redone. Colorado car all it's life until now. Status: On the road and loving it. Owner since 4/24/2017 PFF Member: railshot
VIN: 1G2PE11R8JP225850 Year: 1988 Type: Coupe Exterior: Red Wheels: 14" Interior: Grey Seats: cloth Options: Manual windows, mirrors, no sunroof, non cruise, no AC Engine: 2.5L Transmission: 5 speed Location: Mattoon, IL Mileage: 145K Condition: Stripped to space frame due to excessive rust Status: parked
Crawling through Ebay parts and found this wreck... Poor thing...
VIN: 1G2PE1198JP207302 Year: 1988 Type: Formula Exterior: Red Wheels: Stock Interior: Unknown Seats: Unknown Options: Unknown Engine: Unknown Transmission: Unknown Location: Cleveland, Ohio Mileage: 73576 Condition: wrecked Status: being parted out on Ebay to live on in spirit and help other fellow 88s live on
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VIN: 1G2PG1192JP224882 Year: 1988 Type: Fastback (converted to fastback?) Exterior: White Wheels: Stock black Interior: Grey leather Seats: Stock Engine: 2.8 Transmission: Auto Location: Cheyenne, Wyoming Mileage: 180,0000 Condition: Fair Status: Ebay sale
1G2PE1197JP220154 CJB Formula originally MRM, on insurance auction website, suffered common heater resistor fire. High Option car, 48 codes on label. LINK
------------------ 1988 Pontiac Fiero Formula, Yellow, original. (CJB #118) 1977 Pontiac Le Mans Can-Am W72, original, unrestored. 1977 Pontiac Grand LeMans 2003 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP L67/MN7 (Parts Car) 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP L67/MN7 (DD)
I suspect here is as far as this data is ever going to go.
The following quote has been taken from a post dated November 14th 2004...
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Originally posted by 88 Database Guy in This thread:
I am working with a friend who is putting together a website, which will make it easier to both submit data and to see some results of collecting this data over the last 5 years or so.
No website was ever created. I'm sure that John Willhoff had the best of intentions when he started collecting this data back in 1999, but it's been 18 years now. Let's be realistic... this data is going nowhere.
[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 07-28-2017).]
I know John Willhoff (88 database guy) I had helped him for many, many, many did I say many years. He gave me a print out of what he had back in 2004, I have continued to add to my print out for 13 years now and counting. I think a on-line registry for all 88's would be great "BUT" ONE IMPORTANT THING, It should be able to be viewed for free by all, "BUT" only one person should be able to add the data in, (one person would be in charge of this by sending their data on a 88 to that persons email address) )reason I belonged to a different on-line data base for a certain car model, It started out great the data started pouring in as everyone contributed and were able to add them, themselves, "BUT" then trolls started attacking it by putting in wrong data (b#llsh#t) and thought it was funny, but all it did was hurt the car community that started it, because they ended up shutting it down because so much data was faked or incorrect, the data base was longer accurate and had to start it all over again, with one person in charge to add the data. That data base has never recovered from that!!!! If this can be done I have no problem giving my data over, which is about 1 inch thick full of information with thousands of 1988 vin# with information on them. My suggestion, to make it work fast, you should list the last 6 digits of the vin starting at 00001 to 26402, then when the person comes across information on 88 send email to the operator of the page, they add it like plug and play (the vin digit is already listed just need to add (ext color, interior color, auto or stick and so one) I would also recommend you abbrevate all the options for each car (just a example Don't spell out sunroof, or plain roof or T top, just s-roof, p-roof t-roof) something like that. Just my 2 cents...
[This message has been edited by FIERO JOHN-WI (edited 08-15-2017).]
If the database is online, use checkboxes, rather than text fields, for the options. I don't have an issue with multiple people adding data, but each should have their own logon to do so, and the logon should be tracked for each change. Also, what happens to the database/site if you go wherever the original guy went?
I really like your idea about check boxes, and as far as anyone being able to log in and but be able to track anyone entering the data for accountibility, I might be ok with, but what happen to the other car database I was involved with (NOT FIEROS), trolls started changing exterior colors and mostly engines sizes. Now for a fiero the engine thing isnt a issue but exterior, interior color and options would be. Just my 2 cents.
You could only grant access for a few people. Every change they made should be logged. If there is an issue, lock their account. Changes could then easily be deleted. Trolls couldn't access. Think of it like a forum. There are only a few admins. Users wouldn't have to log in, but they could only search.
Hey guys, thanks for advice here... it's appreciated. I wound up getting a bit behind this week so it's taking a little longer than I'd hoped.
The new site will be 88fiero.com, Anyone that wants to be a mod will get an email address xxx@88fiero.com (if they want it)
I do like the idea of opening it up to all years - lets just see how this one works first. If you guys like it - we can rebrand it and expand.
Full disclosure: If this begins to pick up web traffic in the Fiero community, I'll look to incorporate some non-intrusive advertising to offset the cost and time investment I make to build this out.
Found another 88 in my local Pick N Pull today. Talbot Yellow Formula w/ T-Tops.
VIN: 1G2PE1193JP211709 Year: 1988 Type: Formula Exterior: Yellow Wheels: Black Crosslace Interior: Gray Seats: Cloth Options: T-Tops (not CJB), A/C, Tilt, Delay Wipers, Formula Engine: 2.8L Transmission: Automatic Location: Pick N Pull, Virginia Beach Mileage: Just over 93K Condition: Excellent, no reason for it to be at PnP. Someone needs to be slapped silly for tossing this car away.
Rob
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VIN: 1G2PG1191JP208463 Year: 1988 Type: GT Exterior: Red Wheels: Black lace Interior: Gray Seats: Cloth Options: Rear Defrost, Power mirrors, Wing Engine: 2.8L Transmission: auto Location:GA (Purchased from Paul Vargyas out of IL in 2015) Mileage: 165K Condition: very good to excellent Status: Daily Driver - installing factory sunroof and manual swap PFF Member: msweldon
A link to an auction will soon disappear, so I will try to capture the stats on this car.
VIN: 1G2PG1195JP204528 Year: 1988 Type: GT Exterior: Black Wheels: Black lace Interior: Gray Seats: Cloth Options: PW Engine: 2.8L Transmission: auto Location: Toronto Mileage: 42K Condition: front end collision, tail lights look promising. Status: parts only.... PFF Member: no
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A link to an auction will soon disappear, so I will try to capture the stats on this car.
VIN: 1G2PG1195JP204528 Year: 1988 Type: GT Exterior: Black Wheels: Black lace Interior: Gray Seats: Cloth Options: PW Engine: 2.8L Transmission: auto Location: Toronto Mileage: 42K Condition: front end collision, tail lights look promising. Status: parts only.... PFF Member: no
If I'm reading the speedo correctly, the 42K mileage is in Kilometers, which works out to be just over 26,000 MILES!
VIN: 1G2PG1193JP200266 Year: 1988 Type: GT Exterior: White Wheels: Black Crosslace Interior: Gray Seats: Leather Options: A/C, Tilt, Delay Wipers, PW, PL, defrost, sunroof Engine: 2.8L Transmission: Automatic Location: Warner Robins, GA Mileage: 196,000 miles, 6,000 miles on crate 2.8 Condition: Mostly stock; RD 1" lowering ball joints, Dodgerunner belt tensioner, TXGood armrest/cupholders, RD front wheel bearings, Stealth wing stands Status: Fair weather driver Future plans: Engine swap (undecided which), 18" wheels, IMSA side scoops, Body wrap, Mr Mike seats, Glove box, Black carpet, mats and door panels PFF Member: 0z Former owners: 1. UNK 2. Nike Storm, PFF SN: UNK 3. Erik Schneider, PFF SN: DJErikd 4. Craig Osborne, PFF SN: 0z
1G2PG1190JP219311 Number 19311 of 26402 built in 1988 C&C Number: 629 Year: 1988 Type: GT, T-Tops Exterior: White Wheels: Black Crosslace Interior: Gray Seats: Leather Options: A/C, Tilt, Delay Wipers, PW, PL, T-Tops (CJB) Engine: 2.8L Transmission: Automatic Location: Warner Robins, GA Mileage: 67,000 miles Condition: 98% stock, Dodgerunner belt tensioner, TXGood armrest/cupholders Status: Fair weather driver Future plans: Engine swap (undecided which), Mr Mike seats, Glove box PFF Member: 0z Owners: 1: Dana Junkins 2: Lee Toht 3: UNK - Only had it a couple months and didn’t drive it 4: David Selph 5: Craig Osborne
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1G2PE11R4JP206440 is in a junkyard in Oregon; red 4-cyl. with sunroof. That's all I really know about it. It doesn't show here when I search for that VIN.
Currently non-op in Louisville, KY, bought out of LaGrange. Does not run or drive, needs extensive work, but mostly stock. Black with gray interior, gold wheels, not sure if they are original, probably not, had some Enkei's on it. 160006 miles. Currently looking for some parts to get it back on the road.
VIN: Will get this when it comes back from the shop Year: 1988 Type: FORMULA Exterior: Black Wheels: Gold Crosslace Interior: Dark Gray Seats: Cloth Options: A/C, Tilt, Cruise, Floor mats, Engine: 2.8L Transmission: 5 speed Location: IL Mileage: 117K Condition: Stock. Status: Daily driver when the shop returns it with its new trans.
I can help with data entry.
