I have been thinking about possabley getting another fiero when i finish or come close to finishing my fiero. what i want to do is make a dune buggy style fiero but make it look like a hybrid of a dune buggy and a sand rail. Im talking tube bumpers running boards lift it a few inches bigger tires roll cage. you know somthing you can take to the beach and have it look real rugged and cool. it wouldent be taken off road except for mabey on the beach. i dont want to do somthing like the sand shark or the jovato kit or whatever its called. I want to do somthing real nasty looking.?


Anyoe ever done one of have pics of any?

You mean the jalepeno? Always thought it looked like a fun car




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Whatever happened to this one? I actually thought that it looked cool. I can see blasting down trails in this.

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quote Originally posted by Tony Kania: Whatever happened to this one? I actually thought that it looked cool. I can see blasting down trails in this.

mine would be somthing like this but mine would have the door taken off and doors made out of metal tubing id probabley just use the hood the rear clip the roof and mabey the side skirts. it would be an open front wheel front with a set up like the plymoth prowler over the front wheels.

The Fiero is almost ideal as a dune buggy platform. The balance is near perfect and the traction in the back end is very good.

Sounds like a blast to build one. Especially if you mounted a 3800sc in it

Arn

The Stinger looks cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oBg8C6PMYo

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quote Originally posted by CC Rider: The Stinger looks cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oBg8C6PMYo

looks like alot of fun

Ever time I see a Fiero without the body panels, I think of the movie The Road Warrior. Plenty of sand buggys in that film.

You are right, it wold be fun to build!

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quote Originally posted by CC Rider: The Stinger looks cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oBg8C6PMYo

I'm sure all of those accessories would be an optional package. Though, it's a great attempt at making a very cool little car. If it's AWD, I wouldn't mind having one.

quote Originally posted by Rolling Thunder: I'm sure all of those accessories would be an optional package. Though, it's a great attempt at making a very cool little car. If it's AWD, I wouldn't mind having one.

The stinger might be alright if it didn't come with a load of crap you will lose or never use.

I like the load of crap because it would all be used if you took it camping or to the beach.

It's all about personal choice I guess

Shame to know we will never see that from pontiac. almost brought back the t tops ... its like i said why does GM kill all there good ideas and market all there bad ones.

That must be an old video from the 80's maybe? They mention a cassette deck. I don't think they have put cassettes in cars for at least 5 years.


Edit: found and article about it. http://www.highperformancep...c_stinger/index.html

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quote Originally posted by CC Rider: The Stinger looks cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oBg8C6PMYo

An ice chest in the driver's door? What were they thinking?

But I kinda like all the gadgets. Not that anyone would ever actually use them. Fun to say you got 'em anyway. And the bags remind me of the old Fiero luggage.

JALAPENO AND STINGER

DO WANT!!!

SANTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I've got one for you. Starting with an 87 GT, I'm building an off-roader that will have a Jalapeno body. I've welded 2"x4"x1/8" wall thickness tube steel under the chassis, effectively creating a 4" body lift. The front track has been widened 2" per side, and for the rear I've mounted a Cadillac Northstar 4.6L engine/trans. The front spindles and rotors from the Caddy will become the rear wheels, and I'm now fabricating the rear suspension - Macpherson struts are lame, so I'm going with a custom link suspension tied to the Caddy spindles (they're aluminum!). There are air bags on the front end, and coilover air bags for the rear. I've upgraded the Northstar cams with high-lift units from Cadillac Hot Rod Fabricators, with a proported 375 HP output - the stock engine was 300. In front (where the engine is "supposed" to go) there's an 8,000 LB winch with synthetic rope instead of cable - 86 lbs. I think of it as ballast. There's still a lot to be done on the car, but I'm expecting to have a rolling chassis this winter. Then its time for the body install, followed by fabricated roll bar and bumpers (aka air tanks). Then I need to take the whole thing apart for sandblasting and LineX undercoating. Its been 2 years so far, but I'm getting there.

Sounds like quite the project artworks, welcome to the forum!
Northstar? This sounds interesting.
Post some pictures if you can

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quote Originally posted by pontiackid86: I have been thinking about possabley getting another fiero when i finish or come close to finishing my fiero. ....

Will gas still be available to purchase when this happens?

I find it funny that it comes w/ TWO dust busters!

That car needs a Le Clic camera option:


and Phillips radio (dang, forget the model, but ti would SO fit that car)

quote Originally posted by pontiackid86: I have been thinking about possabley getting another fiero when i finish or come close to finishing my fiero. what i want to do is make a dune buggy style fiero but make it look like a hybrid of a dune buggy and a sand rail. Im talking tube bumpers running boards lift it a few inches bigger tires roll cage. you know somthing you can take to the beach and have it look real rugged and cool. it wouldent be taken off road except for mabey on the beach. i dont want to do somthing like the sand shark or the jovato kit or whatever its called. I want to do somthing real nasty looking.? Anyoe ever done one of have pics of any?

PK, you are slipping - maybe some of the "shine" has worn off since you picked up that Solstice but you referred to your Fiero as "when i finish or come close to finishing my fiero" and not "when i finish or come close to finishing my IMSA". If you IMSA realizes that you are messing with another 2 seater (Solstice) it's wrath will be endless! Better start picking up spare parts now!

quote Originally posted by Australian: The stinger might be alright if it didn't come with a load of crap you will lose or never use.

I was thinking the same thing. So much stuff to lose, and it all looked like cheap plastic crap.

That Stinger reminded me of another Pontiac concept I saw at an auto show a few years back....

http://www.autoworld.com/ne.../piranha-concept.asp

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I figured out how to do photos. Here's a few from last year.

quote Originally posted by artworks: <snip>

Impressive for your first two post. I definitely want to see more. My wish for Christmas is that you are not a troll.

Jim

Hello SPYNX-HAPPY NEW YEAR.

Don't know what a troll is, but I'm sure I'm not it. I'm a mid-life crisis hobbyist that wants to build a fun car to drive to work. If I ever get it done, I'll bring the thing to Iola and you can tell me if its worth the effort. I have more pictures from today that I'll post next.

I don't know if you can see it, the lower front control arms are HT Motorsprts, except they've been mounted with screw-in ball joints from a Chysler. The front spindles are early Ford Pinto - turns out they're the same height as Fiero. The good news here is that there are lots of after-market parts for Mustang/Pinto spindles, so the front brakes are 11" aftermarket for Mustang II (the hot rodders friend). The upper a-arms are aftermaket Mustang also. The air bags are from Universal air, with about 9" of articulation. Of course, the suspension only gives me about 7" of front movement, but I'm trying to keep the stock Fiero geometry (I'm not a rocket scientist).

Today we installed more of the rear suspension. Lots of pipe bending, all 1" DOM 1/8" wall, mated to 1/4" steel plates that bolt to the Cadillac spindles. The front of the "traction bar" is bolted to the frame with 5/8" chrome-moly heim joints. Caster is fixed by the track bars, and toe-in is adjustable by changing the spacing of the heim joint to the frame - two shear ponts for each bolt means adjusting spacing on both sides of the heim. Camber is adjusted with heim joints and a "swedge". Each rear axle is supported by a coilover unit, with airbag over the steel spring. I'm waiting for the bags to be delivered now, then I need to order the shocks and steel springs.

quote Originally posted by artworks:

Interesting project.

I do think you are going to have a binding issue with your suspension travel. With the two links that connect to the upright going forward, as the suspension goes through its range of motion, the upright will rotate slightly. The issue is you still have the lower A-Arm installed which will want to prevent this slight rotation causing the suspension to bind.

Good observation, except that the lower arm won't bind, its a ball joint - the original from the Cadillac. As the suspension travels, it rotates about the front pivot point, slightly changing the caster. Since the spindle is pinned by the ball joint at the bottom, it will move back and forth a bit at the top. However, the ladder bar is about 28" long - this should translate into about 1" of total movement at the top of the spindle.
This is a photo of the driver's side front suspension. Sorry it takes me a while to post photos. I'm still figuring this site out.

WoW....





Sorry, ALL this great stuff and correct spelling in a PK thread.... IMPRESIVE

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quote Originally posted by SMTHGT: Sorry, ALL this great stuff and correct spelling in a PK thread.... IMPRESSIVE

Fixed it for you.

More photos - We finished the rear ladder bar and it works great!

quote Originally posted by BazookaFiero: You mean the jalepeno? Always thought it looked like a fun car

http://www.kitcar.com/artic...r/knotts01/home.html another pic of a red one here.

The winch was installed on Saturday - 8,000 LB Smittybilt with synthetic rope. Including the two pieces of 3"x1" C-channel, I've added about 130 lbs to the front, right over the axle.

Its sitting on its own wheels for the first time in almost 2 years!

I've had the body panels for over a year now, this is the first time they've actually sat on the car

Artworks, you should start a new thread for that build. You're doing an awesome job so far! I'd like to see it without all the clutter of other people talking earlier. But either way, keep the updates coming!

Thanks for the kudos. Right now I'm struggling to figure out how to wire the engine and trans. One thought I had was to use the existing PCM and graft it into the Fiero harness. My knowledgeable friends tell me that's a fool's game - it will take forever to get rid of all the error codes. CHRF sells a Holley Commander control module and harness for the Northstar ($1.8k), but I still need a controller for the electronic trans. I think I've found a solution with Powertrain Control Solutions - they sell a $750 controller and $150 harness that looks like it would work. I suppose I could also change the trans, but my research says the 4T80 trans is virtually bulletproof - they use the pig in hearses and limos. Plus I've already installed the posi unit from Phantom Grip. Any advice y'all could give on controlling a Northstar engine and trans would be welcome.