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RCR's body mods... by RCR
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Report this Post04-18-2014 09:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RCRSend a Private Message to RCREdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I agree...

How about this?


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I think the straight lines of the hood on the other one fit the look better. Perhaps if you drew it from a different angle so see how it looks from a different perspective? the changes to the headlight doors look interesting.

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Wow,

impressed already with just what you did with that busted up rear panel. This is going to be a good one.

I like how you tweeked the hood to make it different.

rcr i like that last nose you posted.

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Report this Post04-20-2014 06:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RCRSend a Private Message to RCREdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
New wheels ordered so I can set fender locations (and so I can have new wheels).

XXR521's 18x10 and 18x8.5



I'll put off new tires until it's closer to road worthy.

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Wheels look great!
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Hi Bob
Looks like your well under way, wheels look great .
Are you widening the suspension or using spacers with the offset?

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Originally posted by dobie1:

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Looks like your well under way, wheels look great .
Are you widening the suspension or using spacers with the offset?

Wayne


Hey Wayne... If I did my calculations correctly, the rears should come out to the current fender lips. The rears have a 25mm offset. I'm a little sketcher on the fronts. I balanced it between coming all the way out and maintaining the stock scrub radius, so I went with a 35mm offset. Eventually I will probably widen the fronts (and add power steering). I doubt I will do the back (at least I'm not thinking about it).

As for status, I'm kind of waiting on the SMC adhesive to glue the hood together.

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Picture update...

Passenger side flange for hood piece:


Driver's side mounted:


Changes to the nose:


Over all look:


Shortened nose:


Mad scientist:


Nose reattached and passenger side glued down;


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Any updates?
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Originally posted by Sourmug:

Any updates?


Nothing really. I made a set of car stands out of 2x10s so that I can keep it up in the air, but at ride height.



I need to find out why the front is so high, even with 1 loop cut out of the spring.

I'm also working on finishing the passenger side nose mods and trying to figure out how to hang the doors.

I hope to figure some things out tonight, as it will be a busy traveling soccer weekend.

later...

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Progress is slow at the moment, as I'm on Plan D for mounting the door skins. Not as trivial as I had hoped. I've got a ton of pics that I will post when I determine there won't be a Plan E.

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Question for Mera, 308/328 clones and Stinger bodies: Does the hood normally sit so high above the rear fender line?


No wonder the window gets small. I'm thinking of ways to drop the hood more even with the tops of the fenders. Thoughts? Am I nuts?


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Hi,
Personally I would leave the height of the decklid where it is. I think you will create more problems trying to lower it.
I own Mera 8011. I will take an exact measurement of my my back window vertical height. I can tell you that the rear decklid is much higher than on the stock Fiero. Not quite half of the rear window is actually below the decklid. Visibility to the rear is not bad, although you might want to consider one of those back up camera rear view mirrors. Also does you passenger side louver have open slots allowing you to see thru it? Without this you will have a very large blind spot. My car has never been apart so I am enjoying seeing how the body work is fitted to the car. Great project!
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Bob:

What is the issue with attaching the doors?

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Originally posted by Sourmug:

Bob:

What is the issue with attaching the doors?

Nolan


The door skins have a flange at the back to mount similar to the factory Fiero. The front is open. My skins had some pieces of very dry rotted wood loosely fiberglassed into place that were screwed in front, but the fit was aweful so I tore it all out.

Now I'm having a problem in figuring out how to flange the front so I can attach it to the door similar to stock. I keep screwing up the Z-axis so that the skin doesn't line up with the fender. I'm on to Plan E now as last night left me a little frustrated and pi$$@#.

I have a long weekend to figure it out, though. It's actually pretty close...

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The door fronts on my Stinger kit are open. It's not like anyone will ever see that though, nor does any dirt or air get blown in because the wheel well liner closes off the space in front of it. As long as the fiberglass door panel is thick or rigid enough to hold it's shape while being fastened from three sides, you should be OK to leave it as is.
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Originally posted by Bloozberry:

The door fronts on my Stinger kit are open. It's not like anyone will ever see that though, nor does any dirt or air get blown in because the wheel well liner closes off the space in front of it. As long as the fiberglass door panel is thick or rigid enough to hold it's shape while being fastened from three sides, you should be OK to leave it as is.


I can't fasten it from three sides. There is no provision to mount the top of the skin either, so that leaves the back and bottom as the only fixed mounting locations.

It's a tough one, that other's have overcome. I just need to hit on the solution that works for me.

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I see... then it would probably be easier to 'glass on a return flange along the top of the door to hang it like the stock panels... even if you had to rivet a new metal strip onto the top of the door frame to hang it on.
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Originally posted by Bloozberry:

I see... then it would probably be easier to 'glass on a return flange along the top of the door to hang it like the stock panels... even if you had to rivet a new metal strip onto the top of the door frame to hang it on.


Haven't had too much success with that yet, but maybe third time's the charm.

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These kits do have the rear deck set absurdly high, I plan on lowering mine as well, I see we're of the same mind on the nose, I want to take at least a couple of inches out of mine. You're work is looking good.

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RCR it is looking good. You are great with body work. I am amazed at the speed in which you are progressing.


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Haven't had too much success with that yet, but maybe third time's the charm.

Bob


It wasn't...back to the drawing board...

Joe: let's see some progress reports.

Steve: thanx. It seems a lot slower than usual from my standpoint.


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Joe: let's see some progress reports.

Bob


Hell the only progress I'm making at this time is on the Indy Hauler, once it's out of my hair, I need to replace the trans my Dakota R/T, then I can get on with the 308. The 308 does make a cameo appearance inby my current post on the Hauler.

I see a light at the end of the tunnel, oh carp, it's a train. Joe

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After I don't know how many iterations, I finally settled on a way to mount the door skins.

Ultimately, I set the location of the door jam so both sides (driver/passenger) were equal, then placed two 3/16" spacers on the jam to space the door out.

I then had to place the rocker panel to set the door z-axis across the bottom. (found out after "plan 5 failed").

I ended up making pockets in the front of the door skin to hold the stock Fiero fasteners. I'll bond these in place once I'm ready. Currently they are sprung into place with strips of aluminum.

I also redid the bottom mounts to better line up with the factory holes and to clean up the existing damage (the door skins were rubbing on the previous rockers.

'Nuf chat, here are the pics (if anyone needs a better explanation, please ask)...













Now I need to finish the rear mounts of the skin and start some of the panel repairs. I need to fill the mirror holes, the latch and lock holes, and some random holes.

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Also, after much debate, I decided not to use Sage & Doug's Koenig rockers.



I still want the 430 rockers, although everything so far has fallen through. I have one mor eplan up my sleeve before I go back to the drawing board.



We'll see what happens...

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looks good Bob. Sure is moving along at a good pace.
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Hi Bob
Looking good Bob!!
So where do those 430 rockers come from?

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Glad to see that you have the door skins figured out, looks nice.
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Looking good Bob!!
So where do those 430 rockers come from?

Wayne


Those aren't 430 rockers. They are the integrated rockers offered by V8Archie for stock Fieros.

I'm hoping that if they are still available, I can modify them to look like 430's.

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Any updates I have enjoyed your posts thus far

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Originally posted by RCR:

I need to fill the mirror holes, the latch and lock holes, and some random holes.



I'd highly recommend keeping the factory lock / key mechanisms - you'll always have a reliable way to unlock the door . I've had too many keyless enrtry systems fail to unlock the door on occasion ...

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Also, after much debate, I decided not to use Sage & Doug's Koenig rockers.





sorry to hear. if i had the money for the parts and the wider wheels and tires these would already be on my car
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A lot of playing going on, but still doesn't look like a lot.

Vents marked out in tape.


Tape carefully cut out


Cardboard template/mold made


I used the cardboard template to make an aluminum piece. This ensured all were the same. Here it is being glassed in.


Vents cut and molded


Here is the rocker that I bought from Smartaxel (nice meeting you, Jim).


It will require heavy mods to make work. Here I've cut the vent off and starting mocking up the 430 vent.


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And more pics:



Cut out the inside of the vent. I'm going to swap the sides to create the scallop.


Cardboard mock-up


Scallop sitting in place


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Nice to see it progressing along! She's going to look great.

Nolan

Edit to add: You should PM Cliff and have him move your thread to the Construction Zone.

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You've done more with the rockers in a few days then I did in 10 years.. LOL! I really need to get busy on mine! Good to meet you too!
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Looking Great!

I 2nd Sourmug...This is ready to be moved to the Construction Zone!
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Good stuff RCR !

This is going to look great, ..keep tweeking !!
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do you plan to chop it ?

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Originally posted by RCR:

I'm on to Plan E now as last night left me a little frustrated and pi$$@#.



If you think the skins are bad, wait until you get to installing the handles and linkage
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do you plan to chop it ?



I want to get a lot of the body out of the way first. I want to get it in a state similar to Bozzie's. Once i can get a good look of the profile, then I will make that decision.

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