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A Real Mera in Paradise by Fiero-in-Paradise
| Started on | : 08-18-2009 04:06 AM |
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| Last post by | : Vernonmera on 01-21-2025 09:34 PM |
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Dec 15th, 2012
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hnthomps
Member Posts: 5749
From: Columbia, SC
Registered: Jul 2003
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02:03 PM
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Dec 18th, 2012
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batousai666
Member Posts: 4222
From: MI usa
Registered: Jun 2009
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big ideas of RoadTrips again 2013 may be the year. we got word from the Governor here in MI that its time to go back to work, finally!  i got CO to AZ in my sights, then this pops up!! would make the 1500 miles super fun!! i dont need the clutch stuff and i got them awesome headders.....commin down on the price he is, yes?  | | | quote | Fully Built Pontiac Fiero 2.8L V6, Long block w/stroker kit, new performance heads (ported), cam, ported lower & mid intakes, bored Holley throttle body 56mm, powder coated parts (orange & silver)new mounts, new clutch, rem. starter, rem. alternator, new water pump, all gaskets for intakes exhaust etc.
This is a perfect setup for that show quality Fiero or for the rebody Replica kit car Lamborghini or Ferrari etc. This package will clean up your engine bay by repacing that old dirty engine and accessories with all fresh and clean powder coated & painted parts, see all the pic's what you see is what you will get. I have well over $4,000 into this setup and you cant do it for less I got some good buys too. So I know this is a great package deal.
You may arrange for local pick up or arrange for shipping I can assist as much as possible. |
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Per..._Accessories&vxp=mtr[This message has been edited by batousai666 (edited 12-18-2012).]
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01:07 PM
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Rick 88
Member Posts: 3914
From: El Paso, TX.
Registered: Aug 2001
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Nelson, Thanks for the pictures. I would not have know the difference without seeing the mirrors side by side. Do you know anyone that sell replacement parts, new or used for these mirrors. Mine still work but the motors make more noise than the stock Fiero electric motors. Is that normal for the Vitaloni's?
I would be interested in a replacement plastic, or metal mirror housing if they are availble. My passenger side housing has a small pinhole in the bottom. I think it is a small rust thru. I did not realize the housings were made of metal. If none are available, I wonder if they could be reproduced in fiberglass?
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03:52 PM
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Rick 88
Member Posts: 3914
From: El Paso, TX.
Registered: Aug 2001
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| | | quote | Originally posted by batousai666:
big ideas of RoadTrips again 2013 may be the year. we got word from the Governor here in MI that its time to go back to work, finally!
i got CO to AZ in my sights, then this pops up!! would make the 1500 miles super fun!!
i dont need the clutch stuff and i got them awesome headders.....commin down on the price he is, yes?
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Dan, That seems like a nice motor, but for arount $2000 you can still buy a brand new 3.4 engine that will move your car around very well. It is an easy swap with the only real fabrication involved drilling the block for the starter relocation. Rodney sells a kit to do this at a reasonable price. The 3.4 also has a much better oiling system than the 2.8, and should last longer under your heavy right foot. 
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04:10 PM
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LEEEZARD
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rick vitaloni does not make parts per say any longer. but you can find used mirrors on ebay and elsewhere. look at my prior message on last page as to what cars these mirrors come on. i am the one that sold nelson the f308 mirrors. i did lots of reseach early on and found gobs of information for the mera's and cross parts info. now i dont have an interest in it any more but am happy to share it. nelson there is a correct set on ebay right now with the correct bases but they are pricey to say the least. dan that looks like a nice motor, just make sure the builder is reputible. get spec sheets and warranty paperwork if there is any. otherwise i agree with rick about the 3.4 being more reliable for longevity. my .02 cents
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07:04 PM
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hnthomps
Member Posts: 5749
From: Columbia, SC
Registered: Jul 2003
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| | | quote | Originally posted by LEEEZARD:
rick vitaloni does not make parts per say any longer. but you can find used mirrors on ebay and elsewhere. look at my prior message on last page as to what cars these mirrors come on. i am the one that sold nelson the f308 mirrors. i did lots of reseach early on and found gobs of information for the mera's and cross parts info. now i dont have an interest in it any more but am happy to share it. nelson there is a correct set on ebay right now with the correct bases but they are pricey to say the least. dan that looks like a nice motor, just make sure the builder is reputible. get spec sheets and warranty paperwork if there is any. otherwise i agree with rick about the 3.4 being more reliable for longevity. my .02 cents |
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I have a couple of pieces from old damaged Vitaloni power mirrors and may try to see if I can swap out the mount on the F308 mirrors and use the original Vitaloni mounting pieces. If that does not work, I may use some F430 mirrors that I have sitting on the shelf in my basement. Note that the red 88 Mera is my least finished Mera and has a long way to go so I have some time to decide exactly what I want to do wrt the mirrors. BTW, I am in need of either a new Vitaloni mirror switch or a new left/right selector ring so if anyone knows where I can get one at a reasonable price, let me know. I do not really want to pay $300 for a used switch like I saw on eBay recently. Nelson
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07:13 PM
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hnthomps
Member Posts: 5749
From: Columbia, SC
Registered: Jul 2003
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Rick 88:
Nelson, Thanks for the pictures. I would not have know the difference without seeing the mirrors side by side. Do you know anyone that sell replacement parts, new or used for these mirrors. Mine still work but the motors make more noise than the stock Fiero electric motors. Is that normal for the Vitaloni's?
I would be interested in a replacement plastic, or metal mirror housing if they are availble. My passenger side housing has a small pinhole in the bottom. I think it is a small rust thru. I did not realize the housings were made of metal. If none are available, I wonder if they could be reproduced in fiberglass? |
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Rick, I have had some success with mirror noise reduction by squirting WD 40 behind the mirrors. It may be worth an attempt to try this yourself. Just do it outside where the WD 40 runoff does not collect on the floor or driveway. I will look at my spare mirror parts and see if I have anything that may help you on the passenger side mirror. Nelson
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07:17 PM
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johnyrottin
Member Posts: 5496
From: Northwest Florida
Registered: Oct 2007
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I still need MERA letters for my car! The darn modeler hasn't finished yet! I would prefer to have original ones since my car is 100% original (except tires).
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08:34 PM
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Dec 19th, 2012
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LEEEZARD
Member Posts: 610
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i have mera letter sets. gts emblems.
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12:11 AM
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batousai666
Member Posts: 4222
From: MI usa
Registered: Jun 2009
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yeah thats the ole Merry Mera spirit!!  feels just like the old days here in" The Mera Paradise" thanks for the tip Bros!! while Window(s) shopping i found this site...if i am not mistaken these are all massaged too, sweet  i got them WCF headders and was hoping for a bigger intake but even FrancesT from Truelo is backing off production as did the TLC Products site. boooooo  i think i can get 210-220 hp out of this set up eventually, yes?? http://www.engine-parts.com/GMV6/gm2834stkr.htmlas far as mirrors i only got one powered (pass) and it aint never worked, so i use all mine as manuals. never even heard my motor run do they have fuses somewhere?? [This message has been edited by batousai666 (edited 12-19-2012).]
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06:48 AM
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Rick 88
Member Posts: 3914
From: El Paso, TX.
Registered: Aug 2001
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| | | quote | Originally posted by hnthomps:
Rick,
I have had some success with mirror noise reduction by squirting WD 40 behind the mirrors. It may be worth an attempt to try this yourself. Just do it outside where the WD 40 runoff does not collect on the floor or driveway. I will look at my spare mirror parts and see if I have anything that may help you on the passenger side mirror.
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Nelson, Thanks for the tip on lubricating the mirrors. Another odd thing the Vitaloni's do is affect the radio sound when I use them. I never had that issue with the stock Fiero power mirrors on my 88 GT. To me, the Vitaloni selector switch is very fragile compared to the stock GT mirror switch. If mine ever fails I may just replace it the with Fiero switch assembly. I have yet to a replacement power mirror switch that resembles the Vitaloni part. As far as my passenger mirror housing, since it is made of thin metal, I am open to ideals on how to repair the rust damage. I am trying to get up the nerve to take one apart and treat the inside with Por 15. A replacement would be great if there are any out there. [This message has been edited by Rick 88 (edited 12-19-2012).]
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03:02 PM
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PFF
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johnyrottin
Member Posts: 5496
From: Northwest Florida
Registered: Oct 2007
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| | | quote | Originally posted by LEEEZARD:
dan you still need the mera letters and gts emblem for your car? |
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I need the original "MERA" letters for MERA 8088. Darn modeler still hasn't finished the ones I sent him. I want to get my car done and that is the only thing holding me up!
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03:58 PM
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LEEEZARD
Member Posts: 610
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dan it looks like a reputable engine builder, looks like nice motors. just ask them about their warranty conditions.
rick yes por15 would help and yes you can repair the rust in your mirror housing. i actually like your using a fiero switch idea.
nelson i have the mirror controller out of 7071 have never operated it dont know if it works but is pure mera 250.00
johnny pm answered.
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05:18 PM
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hnthomps
Member Posts: 5749
From: Columbia, SC
Registered: Jul 2003
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If anyone needs it I have the wiring schematic for the Vitaloni power mirrors.
Nelson
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07:13 PM
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hnthomps
Member Posts: 5749
From: Columbia, SC
Registered: Jul 2003
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| | | quote | Originally posted by LEEEZARD:
nelson i have the mirror controller out of 7071 have never operated it dont know if it works but is pure mera 250.00
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Mike, I appreciate the offer but need to decline since you do not know if it works as well as the fact that I do not want to spend that much on a switch. I have previously declined on a working Vitaloni mirror switch and harness so you have good company. Nelson
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07:16 PM
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LEEEZARD
Member Posts: 610
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nelson,
my car is so unoriginal anyhow does not matter about the small details. i am running manual mirrors anyhow. they are vitalonis from a 308gtb race car. they look good and are correct 308 stuff. someone prior to me ferrari ized my car already heavily so i may as well follow thru.
mike
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09:29 PM
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LEEEZARD
Member Posts: 610
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7071 is still rough these days but far better than when i got her. all new f308 moton billet aluminum adjustable coilovers on all four corners, ferrari f430 brembo calipers and cross drilled rotors. monster sway bars aftermarket fiero stuff. 19x7 front, 19x10 rear f355/f430 oem ferrari wheels with michelin pilot cup tires. cradle still out of car was doing L33 5.3 aluminum v8 to F23 fy1 trans conversion into cradle. champion 3core aluminum radiator. prior owner had complete f308 style interior done right before he crashed the car. car has super low miles less than 60k. car has all fcar emblems inside and out. has a f308 style dash. has all new poly bushings on entire suspension, new front and rear bearings, new front and rear balljoints, tierods, etc. someday will make a nice car. lost interest a while back. she sets in the back corner of the shop on jack stands for now. ill get back to her someday.
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09:40 PM
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Dec 20th, 2012
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batousai666
Member Posts: 4222
From: MI usa
Registered: Jun 2009
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| | | quote | Originally posted by hnthomps:
If anyone needs it I have the wiring schematic for the Vitaloni power mirrors.
Nelson |
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i would be interested. i got wire issues in my Passenger......thanks just post it here if you feel
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08:31 AM
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batousai666
Member Posts: 4222
From: MI usa
Registered: Jun 2009
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| | | quote | Originally posted by LEEEZARD:
7071 is still rough these days but far better than when i got her.... someday will make a nice car. lost interest a while back. she sets in the back corner of the shop on jack stands for now. ill get back to her someday. |
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as a big fan of All 1987 Mera, i say booooooo, sir!!  [This message has been edited by batousai666 (edited 12-20-2012).]
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08:34 AM
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Rick 88
Member Posts: 3914
From: El Paso, TX.
Registered: Aug 2001
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| | | quote | Originally posted by LEEEZARD:
rick yes por15 would help and yes you can repair the rust in your mirror housing. i actually like your using a fiero switch idea.
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How would I be able to repair my housing? The metal is so thin I don't believe it can be welded without warping it. I am concerned about damaging the mirror just taking it apart. Has anyone disassembled their mirrors? Pics would be nice if anyone has some.
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11:18 AM
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hnthomps
Member Posts: 5749
From: Columbia, SC
Registered: Jul 2003
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Rick 88:
How would I be able to repair my housing? The metal is so thin I don't believe it can be welded without warping it. I am concerned about damaging the mirror just taking it apart. Has anyone disassembled their mirrors? Pics would be nice if anyone has some.
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There is a plastic piece that often breaks when disassembling the mirror. Do not ask how I know this but be certain that it is true. Nelson
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11:52 AM
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PFF
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LEEEZARD
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After it is apart, grind it clean around the rust hole. then fiberglass cloth and resin it from the inside. the fiberglass cloth fixes the hole and the resin seals the metal from any further rust. have done many rust repairs this way with good success. then por15 the whole inside of the metal cover. i have never taken a mera vitaloni apart. you would have to talk to nelson on that one.
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01:38 PM
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Rick 88
Member Posts: 3914
From: El Paso, TX.
Registered: Aug 2001
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I'll try to do a search for an exploded illustration of the mirror to see how it is assembled. Nelson what plastic part are you referring to that is easy to break?
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05:51 PM
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Dec 21st, 2012
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Larryinkc
Member Posts: 688
From: Kansas City, MO USA
Registered: Nov 2012
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The Team III Ferrari 5 spoke wheels showed up today. Scott at Team III does nice work, I would recommend them to anyone that wants to be able to use 16" tires and keep the "look" . Centers are cast aluminum, shrunk fit in spun aluminum rims then welded on the back side. Back side looka as good as the front.  [This message has been edited by Larryinkc (edited 12-23-2019).]
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07:24 PM
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Dec 22nd, 2012
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reholmes
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From: Phoenix, AZ, USA
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whoops [This message has been edited by reholmes (edited 12-22-2012).]
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09:35 AM
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reholmes
Member Posts: 920
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Nice paint! http://bringatrailer.com/20...i-308-gtb-obsession/Complete set of restoration pics: http://308gtb.tumblr.com/ . All you ever wanted to know about an F-308 GTB ------------------  Dick Mera #8046 1987 GT T-boned (RIP) 1988 GT T-Top (The Fiero Store Calendar: Miss February 2012) 1987 McBurnie Daytona Spyder [This message has been edited by reholmes (edited 12-22-2012).]
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09:38 AM
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batousai666
Member Posts: 4222
From: MI usa
Registered: Jun 2009
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Larryinkc:
The Team III Ferrari 5 spoke wheels showed up today.
Scott at Team III does nice work, I would recommend them to anyone that wants to be able to use 16" tires and keep the "look" .
Centers are cast aluminum, shrunk fit in spun aluminum rims then welded on the back side. Back side looka as good as the front.
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nice!! looks like a Mera center cap will even fit, maybe. i want to get a set of wheels for Mera X that has the RollsRoyce wheel center floaters  that would be sweet.these look like they may work for that, too. well, after i get to work and fix the engine. i plan on getting a bunch of 1987 Diamond Fiero Wheels and paint them different colors. White, Balck, Gold for sure.....but we will see. i made it past one hurdle.....Dec 22nd made it  [/QUOTE] [This message has been edited by batousai666 (edited 12-22-2012).]
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10:18 AM
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I FAR I
Member Posts: 366
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jan 2012
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Larryinkc:
The Team III Ferrari 5 spoke wheels showed up today.
Scott at Team III does nice work, I would recommend them to anyone that wants to be able to use 16" tires and keep the "look" .
Centers are cast aluminum, shrunk fit in spun aluminum rims then welded on the back side. Back side looka as good as the front.
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PM sent.
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12:02 PM
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fgt1988
Member Posts: 724
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You did an excellent job in bringing back what a true collector and original MERA should be looking at - I would buy yours before I buy any Mera that has been tweaked with all this non sense Ferrari modifications want to be and probably get laughed at on the street with the fake looking ferrari. I rather keep it original and with a true history of the vehicle.
On top of that it is valued at most than non original ones.. That's my opinion and for those other Mera owners out there don't get offended and just take it with it a grain of salt...
I don't own one but if I had to buy one it would be an original all stock... Merry Christmas --
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02:34 PM
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hnthomps
Member Posts: 5749
From: Columbia, SC
Registered: Jul 2003
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| | | quote | Originally posted by fgt1988:
You did an excellent job in bringing back what a true collector and original MERA should be looking at - I would buy yours before I buy any Mera that has been tweaked with all this non sense Ferrari modifications want to be and probably get laughed at on the street with the fake looking ferrari. I rather keep it original and with a true history of the vehicle.
On top of that it is valued at most than non original ones.. That's my opinion and for those other Mera owners out there don't get offended and just take it with it a grain of salt...
I don't own one but if I had to buy one it would be an original all stock... Merry Christmas -- |
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I like stock Meras also but believe that they need a HP increase to match their looks. That is why mine have uprated engines and several get even better mileage than the stock engine. Nelson
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06:12 PM
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reholmes
Member Posts: 920
From: Phoenix, AZ, USA
Registered: Jul 2001
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| | | quote | Originally posted by batousai666:
i plan on getting a bunch of 1987 Diamond Fiero Wheels and paint them different colors. White, Balck, Gold for sure...
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You can probably get most colors in stock rims with hard coating--what is that, some kind of resin? Anyway, I've seen black, dark gray, very light silver gray, and gold--wonder how many stock colors there are.
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10:16 PM
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PFF
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Dec 23rd, 2012
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LEEEZARD
Member Posts: 610
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| | | quote | Originally posted by fgt1988:
You did an excellent job in bringing back what a true collector and original MERA should be looking at - I would buy yours before I buy any Mera that has been tweaked with all this non sense Ferrari modifications want to be and probably get laughed at on the street with the fake looking ferrari. I rather keep it original and with a true history of the vehicle.
On top of that it is valued at most than non original ones.. That's my opinion and for those other Mera owners out there don't get offended and just take it with it a grain of salt...
I don't own one but if I had to buy one it would be an original all stock... Merry Christmas -- |
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When i purchased my mera it was in bad shape/wrecked exterior. interior was already ferrari ized. so sometimes keeping them original isnt possible.
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12:43 AM
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batousai666
Member Posts: 4222
From: MI usa
Registered: Jun 2009
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as a stone Pimp i want these all shinny. the 308 design but with all kinds of bling  | | | quote | Originally posted by reholmes:
You can probably get most colors in stock rims with hard coating--what is that, some kind of resin? Anyway, I've seen black, dark gray, very light silver gray, and gold--wonder how many stock colors there are. |
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and that is my hope, to find a stash already painted. but i am not too sure white, yellow, blue Fieros got like colored wheels as per the Mera, soooo well, we know we got White, Yellow, Black, Silver/Grey and Gold on Mera, in the pre Cromadora period i doubt there were ever red GT wheels but you never know [This message has been edited by batousai666 (edited 12-23-2012).]
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08:22 AM
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hnthomps
Member Posts: 5749
From: Columbia, SC
Registered: Jul 2003
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| | | quote | Originally posted by batousai666:
as a stone Pimp i want these all shinny. the 308 design but with all kinds of bling
and that is my hope, to find a stash already painted. but i am not too sure white, yellow, blue Fieros got like colored wheels as per the Mera, soooo
well, we know we got White, Yellow, Black, Silver/Grey and Gold on Mera, in the pre Cromadora period
i doubt there were ever red GT wheels but you never know
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Dan, I had a set of stock 88 Mera wheels (lace/diamond type) in white and included the silver/black Mera center cap. These came from Bob Bracey's wife's car. Nelson
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12:51 PM
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batousai666
Member Posts: 4222
From: MI usa
Registered: Jun 2009
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| | | quote | Originally posted by hnthomps:
Dan,
I had a set of stock 88 Mera wheels (lace/diamond type) in white and included the silver/black Mera center cap. These came from Bob Bracey's wife's car.
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yeah i remember....tooo rich for my blood i got a lead up here on a Fiero with a 3.4L swap, if i can get the right price and do a deal, it would get things moving, finally all it takes is a phone call from my boss.......... [This message has been edited by batousai666 (edited 12-23-2012).]
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04:52 PM
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hnthomps
Member Posts: 5749
From: Columbia, SC
Registered: Jul 2003
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Rick 88:
I'll try to do a search for an exploded illustration of the mirror to see how it is assembled. Nelson what plastic part are you referring to that is easy to break? |
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This is the plastic part inside the mirror that is fairly easy to break. If you look on the upper left side, you will see a small white blob that used to be part of the mirror movement unit. The larger remaining portion of this piece is the white looking bar that is perpendicular to the motor assembly. I have not tried to glue this together, but it does not look like a very good prospect since I do not know hat the plastic material is and thus cannot select a good adhesive. I can show you this part and the frame but do not intend to disassemble another one unless it is absolutely necessary since my spares are more than limited.   Nelson [This message has been edited by hnthomps (edited 12-23-2012).]
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08:12 PM
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hnthomps
Member Posts: 5749
From: Columbia, SC
Registered: Jul 2003
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| | | quote | Originally posted by batousai666:
i would be interested. i got wire issues in my Passenger......thanks
just post it here if you feel |
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Dan, I can send you a file if I have an e-mail address but am having trouble posting this using PIP and do not have a lot of time to fool with it right now. Nelson
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08:29 PM
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Dec 24th, 2012
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batousai666
Member Posts: 4222
From: MI usa
Registered: Jun 2009
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| | | quote | Originally posted by hnthomps:
Dan,
I can send you a file if I have an e-mail address but am having trouble posting this using PIP and do not have a lot of time to fool with it right now.
Nelson |
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well it is being a little bugger, i got it converted from PNC to JPEG but somehow it shrunk on me. way too small to see what gives? it always has to be something, eh??  test.......  BINGO!! its even got the specs on the single mirror!!!! AWESOME!!! i may just not mess with it and use mine as dual manuals. after seeing all that plastic i wonder if i have experience as a plastic molder after turning my lego and army men into puddles of goo....i wonder tho  some clay some army men, a little fire and bingo pressed parts for the mirrors  i know i need a drive....the bug twiches got me  [This message has been edited by batousai666 (edited 12-24-2012).]
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07:49 AM
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batousai666
Member Posts: 4222
From: MI usa
Registered: Jun 2009
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say fellas, what do we know about the porting and und polishing??   i'd be nice to creamic coat the insides of the exhaust for smoother transitions and heat resieance. is that possible?? [This message has been edited by batousai666 (edited 12-24-2012).]
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08:43 AM
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batousai666
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