hahahaaaa......Wayne's obsession has started to influence......the thread
daniel
PS its on.....the race to 100 needs to be legit, NO random posts. all posts from here must contain something revelent to us, personally or Mera related!!
Bring It!!
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PS its on.....the race to 100 needs to be legit, NO random posts. all posts from here must contain something revelent to us, personally or Mera related!!
Bring It!!
^^^^^Example^^^^^
while driving to work a week ago i picked up one of these for Giggles
well i stopped that.....now i get way better gas milage too......
here is just one of several parking tickets I received for driving an import inside the fence at Ford
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I was parked in my reserved parking spot on a Saturday, however we can only park North American brands in management parking lots. The UAW made that rule very clear during their negotiations.
------------------ Julian - MERA #8071
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So your formula has amber blinkers ONLY and red brakes ONLY!.... All 4 do not light up when you break.... and your running night lights are red and amber.....correct? That is the way I think it should be...... but mine is not.
Ok I have to post this experience I had on the weekend. I'm driving 8071 downtown along the waterfront and I come up to a light. A Nissan pulls up along side and puts his window down. He looks and looks.... I make eye contact and he asks if it's a kit. grrrrrr not one Ferrari badge and I still get asked. I say, actually it's a dealer option for Fiero, this car came like this from the dealer when it was first purchased. The dork says, "I knew it was a kit because you don't have the prancing horse on your wheel centers". grrrrr I said to him "no it's not a Ferrari, why would I do that?" He replied that I did a good job making the kit and once again said I need Ferrari wheel centers. I give up!
Can any one out there make me a vinyl sign for the top of my widshield that reads "Yes, PONTIAC" ????
Get a vanity plate that says "THIS IS NOT A KIT IT'S A PONTIAC MERA, D--- H---!" Huh, oh, too many letters? Well blow that off. Or, you can go here and get a custom window graphic. http://www.fierosails.com/custom.html
My experience has been that people either want to race, or they sit in the lane next to me trying to figure out what it is keeping me from changing lanes. OTOH, a lot just give a thumbs up an drive on. What the heck, that's sort of why I bought it ;-)
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But the cars are still kits...they are not a GM line manufactured car. The kit happened to be installed by CC at a shop owned by them and sold through GMs dealership chains...it's still a kit.
Or am I way wrong...off base...out of line...etc, etc.
I think "rebody" may be a better term. Don't know that I'd call a Caterham a kit car.
Wiki defines a kit car as: "A kit car, also known as a "component car", is an automobile that is available as a set of parts that a manufacturer sells and the buyer then either assembles into a car themselves, or retains a third party to do part or all of the work on their behalf." CC was not a third party, and certainly not retained by the purchaser--perhaps a second party.
I agree Holmes....a kit to me is built in your garage or in your friends garage with parts purchased after the fact. In a way it is a kit but the way it was sold with full waranty etc, I like the word DEALER rebody.
I am running behind schedule but here are a few photos of the rear trunk gasket and corner for an 88 Mera constructed on a GT platform as I promised a few days ago. The plastic corners appear to be intact on this trunk.
Ok I have to post this experience I had on the weekend. I'm driving 8071 downtown along the waterfront and I come up to a light. A Nissan pulls up along side and puts his window down. He looks and looks.... I make eye contact and he asks if it's a kit. grrrrrr not one Ferrari badge and I still get asked. I say, actually it's a dealer option for Fiero, this car came like this from the dealer when it was first purchased. The dork says, "I knew it was a kit because you don't have the prancing horse on your wheel centers". grrrrr I said to him "no it's not a Ferrari, why would I do that?" He replied that I did a good job making the kit and once again said I need Ferrari wheel centers. I give up!
Can any one out there make me a vinyl sign for the top of my widshield that reads "Yes, PONTIAC" ????
Help.
On my Mera I have the Mera emblems intact, and just to mess with people, I have yellow wheel center caps with the black Fiero Pegasus on them. I am working on one more way for my Mera to say "not a Ferrari" that should confuse people.
Seems like a semantic argument to me...I don't mind if they call it an authorized by GM kit car. The fact that a car was a Fiero and was re-bodied to a MERA doesn't bother me in the slightest. 1 of 247 says something to me. And the 3rd party argument seems to mean 1st party GM, 2nd party me, and third party Whodeanie's customs (as an example set...and I think Whodeanie's cars are as nice and are of the same or higher quality as many factory built rebodies)...it would be the same 3 party system just with a different order. Rebody seems to fit the description as well but aren't all kits a replacement for the original body...hence a rebody? All in all, love the car, fit, and finish but when it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and its got a water tight butt like a duck calling it a water dwelling flying fowl of the mallard variety doesn't change what it is. Not to downgrade us to kit car drivers...I love my MERA!!!!
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Pontiac Conversion Option offered on a "new" Pontiac Fiero......the Pontiac Fiero Mera in agreement with Mr Rottin (to a point ) Pontiac, CC and the owner is a three party system as much as Shleby and Ford minus the performance up-grades
its all about the delivery....to your house in a Box= Kit.
Picked up at the dealer to sign the papers and take final Delivery and drive away= the Pontiac Fiero Mera!!!
i believe the Key Words are "Conversion and Option"
i never have a problem. i just hear "its still a Fiero, anyway" whatever!! that kind of talk makes me want a 3800 turbo to stomp em!!!
as far as the cop is concerened with my 94 in a 70. it says Pontiac right on the back.....where he was, the plate check said Pontiac. took 5 minutes from blues and twos to me on my way $105 poorer.
the way i see it you all need a Pontiac emblem and its all gone
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Did you fight the ticket and say you didn't own a ferrari?
naw, but i did mention that i did not think a Fiero could go 94 mph.....
real cool officer, he asked where i was going i said "work" and he did every thing in his power to allow me to get there on time, minus an escort....thank God. 24 mph over is jail mostly
the bumper is still needing a weld or 2. then a thru bolt till i get a permenent fix. looking a foam replacement with a less pourous material.
i dig the CeeLo Green song...."F-you" i changed the words a little......
"I am so sorry, its not a real Ferrari!" But it dont mean Mera X cant get you there....." that sums it all up for me
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use the old brackets you got from that other guy and make a duplicate out of new metal. then bolt it to the bumper and dont use the foam so it doesnt happen again.
it doesnt look bad without a bumper but having a bumper on it willl save the rear in a minor fender bender. over 2 miles per hour tho and its history
The actual 308 bumper is rubberized, but tends to crack with age. I would not mind having a real rubber bumper if someone could whip one up. Dan could have a mold cast off his original and make one an new on out of fiberglass. I believe there is a guy here on Pennocks from time to time that may still have some replacement bumpers, or be able to make one. I belive his business is called "Jimmy's Automotive".
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But the cars are still kits...they are not a GM line manufactured car. The kit happened to be installed by CC at a shop owned by them and sold through GMs dealership chains...it's still a kit.
Or am I way wrong...off base...out of line...etc, etc.
Actually, the Mera was a "conversion" much like the later SLP Firehawk package. Both vehicles could only be purchased new thru a Pontiac dealership. While you could not buy Mera bodywork from Corporate Concepts directly, you could by SLP performance parts for your F body. However, to be an actual Firehawk it had to be assembled by SLP and then drop shipped to the selling dealer, just like the Mera conversion. Firehawks also had build numbers, like the Mera.
If at the time of production, you could have purchased Mera bodywork directly and assembled it yourself, then the Mera would have been a kit. The fiberglass splashes made off the original Mera bodywork are kits. and while similar, have differences in the hoods, side louvers, and other areas. Most kit body panels do not have the same thickness of fiberglass as the original Mera pieces, and tend to be of poorer quality.
That being said, it the kit builder has the time, and expertise, to properly assemble one, a "308 kit" can be a very nice car. But it will still not be a Mera.
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Originally posted by Rick 88: The actual 308 bumper is rubberized, but tends to crack with age. I would not mind having a real rubber bumper if someone could whip one up. Dan could have a mold cast off his original and make one an new on out of fiberglass. I believe there is a guy here on Pennocks from time to time that may still have some replacement bumpers, or be able to make one. I belive his business is called "Jimmy's Automotive".
all good suggestions guys......but, i want the orignial parts for as long as i can. thats why i am using the parts i got still till they go completely.
then i plan to use the brackets that my friend, Mike sent me till they go bad then i will fab all new hopefully by then i will be dead i want all Mera till the end.....i know its hokey, oh well.
speaking of OEM.....wonder if that guy in FL still has them Mera wheels with the centers
glad i keep his number
later
Daniel
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Now to the kit car debate......i feel that a true kit car is to stay so close to the real thing that its hard to tell.
i guess them are called "replicas", "replicars" or something. i need looks and performance. thats the delima for me as a Mera owner
THE HORSEPOWER, BABY!! V8 lambo kits all day.....a weak 2.8 Ferrari 308 kit, no way. the Mera on the other hand. this car, sold me as a rare Pontiac. it does not happen everyday, what they pulled off at CC and Pontiac, so its kinda like a "Ha Ha" to own one i dig it....thats why i change my mind evert month about a swap
i want an Aldino next but it has to be fast......so i keep my hands of Mera X.............
and truth be told i bid on 3 fast Fieros in the last month.....thats the ticket.
laters
D
[This message has been edited by batousai666 (edited 08-09-2011).]
A kit car, also known as a "component car", is an automobile that is available as a set of parts that a manufacturer sells and the buyer then either assembles into a car themselves, or retains a third party to do part or all of the work on their behalf. Usually, many of the major mechanical systems such as the engine and transmission are sourced from donor vehicles or purchased from other vendors new. Kits vary in completeness ranging from as little as a book of plans to a complete set with all components included.
There is a sub-set of kit cars, commonly referred to as a "re-body" in which a commercially manufactured vehicle has a new (often fiberglass) body put on the running chassis. Most times, the existing drive gear and interior is retained. These kits require less technical knowledge from the builder and as the chassis and mechanical systems were designed, built and tested by a major automotive manufacturer can also lead to a much higher degree of safety and reliability.
The definition of a kit car usually indicates that a manufacturer constructs multiple kits of the same vehicle which they then in turn sell. This should not be confused with 'hand built cars' or 'Special' cars, which are typically built from scratch by an individual
NO!!! sucks i could not get the dough fast enough......the stinking shipping from TX, killed me. also lost a 3800 SC for $3500 here on the PFF, as well as a 400 hp 3.4 doch
such a sad panda....but i feel a lay-off is comming so its for the best.....i guess
later
d
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Paul Angel (Tha Angel on PFF) has a mould of the Mera front bumper that he made from one of my vehicles. Since he also does custom fiberglass work, he could be an additional source.
Nelson
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Originally posted by Rick 88: The actual 308 bumper is rubberized, but tends to crack with age. I would not mind having a real rubber bumper if someone could whip one up. Dan could have a mold cast off his original and make one an new on out of fiberglass. I believe there is a guy here on Pennocks from time to time that may still have some replacement bumpers, or be able to make one. I belive his business is called "Jimmy's Automotive".
To use the Chromadoras on an 87 you would need spacers installed to bring the tires out to the correct location. I used a two inch spacer on the back and would need one about one inch wide for the fronts. If you want Chromadoras, look on eBay and there is a set with eight small wheel centers and two Mera nose badges. The price is a bit high but they are available. I also maintain an extra set of Chromadoras for potential future use.
Now wrt your desire for a large engine Mera, I could sell you an 88 with a relatively new 383 engine. You know that it would not be cheap but could be had if the price was right.
Nelson
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Originally posted by batousai666:
all good suggestions guys......but, i want the orignial parts for as long as i can. thats why i am using the parts i got still till they go completely.
then i plan to use the brackets that my friend, Mike sent me till they go bad then i will fab all new hopefully by then i will be dead i want all Mera till the end.....i know its hokey, oh well.
speaking of OEM.....wonder if that guy in FL still has them Mera wheels with the centers
Paul Angel (Tha Angel on PFF) has a mould of the Mera front bumper that he made from one of my vehicles. Since he also does custom fiberglass work, he could be an additional source.
Nelson
I was just perusing your guys' epic Mera thread and felt like throwing my .02 in. So here goes; pretty sure hnthomps meant: Paul Angel (Tha Driver on PFF) That man makes some great fiberglass products.
ok. carry on.
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Originally posted by hnthomps: Now wrt your desire for a large engine Mera, I could sell you an 88 with a relatively new 383 engine. You know that it would not be cheap but could be had if the price was right.
Nelson
Nelson,
Some day I will consider "upgrading" my engine, or looking for a T-Top with a swap already in place. What is your opinion/recommendation for a Mera Swap?
------------------ Dick Mera #8046 1987 GT - T-boned (RIP)
Some day I will consider "upgrading" my engine, or looking for a T-Top with a swap already in place. What is your opinion/recommendation for a Mera Swap?
Nelson can give you first hand info on just about any current swap out there. I have ridden in a 3800 SC, auto swap, and a small block, 4 speed swap. The stock 90 degree 3800 SC is probably the most bang for the buck. I have yet to hear one that sounds a nice as the 60 degree Fiero V6 though. The V8's are almost overkill for a Fiero if they are modded, and you won't fool anyone with the exhaust sound.
So far I really like my 3.4 PR swap. I just installed some Comp Cams 1.6 ratio steel roller rockers. The engine runs even better, and revs higher before the power falls off. I am also considering TLG's new dual T/B intake set up they are doing testing on now. It will never compete with these other swaps, but I can keep the original look of the Fiero motor. The 3.4 PR is noticeably more powerful, with much more torque than the stock 2.8 and still has that great sound.
Eventually I would like to swap in the new LFX 3.6 SIDI Camaro/ CTS engine. It it lighter than the 2.8 since it is all aluminum, puts out 323 hp at get this 6800 rpm. With standard VVT it produces 278 lb. ft. of torque at 4800 rpm. Plus it gets 30 mpg in a Camaro that weighs at least 800 lbs more than a Fiero. A stock 312 hp 3.6 2011 Camaro will do 150 mph with the RS package speed rated tires. Imagine the performance of this engine in a much lighter Mera. Being a high winding 60 degree 4 cam 24 valve V6, the engine shoud make some very exotic sounds thru a Fiero muffler. Eventually someone will design a swap harness, and fab some mounts to install this motor in a Fiero......
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To use the Chromadoras on an 87 you would need spacers installed to bring the tires out to the correct location. I used a two inch spacer on the back and would need one about one inch wide for the fronts. If you want Chromadoras, look on eBay and there is a set with eight small wheel centers and two Mera nose badges. The price is a bit high but they are available. I also maintain an extra set of Chromadoras for potential future use.
Now wrt your desire for a large engine Mera, I could sell you an 88 with a relatively new 383 engine. You know that it would not be cheap but could be had if the price was right.
Nelson
sorry Nelson, i aint got that kind of money
as for the Cromodoras.....i cant have them anyway.....not OEM for the 1987 Mera.
i got my eyes on the Fiero Diamond/lace wheels with the Mera centers that were on craigslist earlier this Spring.
he called my machine and said $250. i think they are mine.....depends on shipping from Florida.
thanks for the info and the offer, tho.....i am tooo cheap for your fine/fast cars.....
Nelson can give you first hand info on just about any current swap out there. I have ridden in a 3800 SC, auto swap, and a small block, 4 speed swap. The stock 90 degree 3800 SC is probably the most bang for the buck. I have yet to hear one that sounds a nice as the 60 degree Fiero V6 though. The V8's are almost overkill for a Fiero if they are modded, and you won't fool anyone with the exhaust sound.
So far I really like my 3.4 PR swap. I just installed some Comp Cams 1.6 ratio steel roller rockers. The engine runs even better, and revs higher before the power falls off. I am also considering TLG's new dual T/B intake set up they are doing testing on now. It will never compete with these other swaps, but I can keep the original look of the Fiero motor. The 3.4 PR is noticeably more powerful, with much more torque than the stock 2.8 and still has that great sound.
Eventually I would like to swap in the new LFX 3.6 SIDI Camaro/ CTS engine. It it lighter than the 2.8 since it is all aluminum, puts out 323 hp at get this 6800 rpm. With standard VVT it produces 278 lb. ft. of torque at 4800 rpm. Plus it gets 30 mpg in a Camaro that weighs at least 800 lbs more than a Fiero. A stock 312 hp 3.6 2011 Camaro will do 150 mph with the RS package speed rated tires. Imagine the performance of this engine in a much lighter Mera. Being a high winding 60 degree 4 cam 24 valve V6, the engine shoud make some very exotic sounds thru a Fiero muffler. Eventually someone will design a swap harness, and fab some mounts to install this motor in a Fiero......
Rick you get a 0-60 mph time, yet?? i would like to know.....please.
i feel for the money the 3.4L FireBird engine (gotta stay with Pontiac) is a option for me with a fat turbo......
the 3800 turbos are monsters and i see me buying a Fiero with that instead of crashing Me Mera
but a 3.4 in Mera X retains the looks as you mentioned and gives the performance and oppoturnities to upgrade as i choose.
Dan you are paying $250 for the center caps. Any stock 86/87 GT 15X7 crosslace wheels is the same. You can probably have some Mera vinyl decals made for a stock set of Fiero center caps very reasonably, and find a set crosslace wheels for much less. Make sure these are original Mera center caps if you are going to pay that much for them. They shoud be in very good condition as well.
) Pontiac, CC and the owner is a three party system as much as Shleby and Ford minus the performance up-grades 
