qwikgta started this thread as a nice build thread. He stated in his 1st post what transmission he was using negative comments about his choice. Yet people gave him just that for many posts. Why can't Fiero people just show fellow Fiero people a little respect?
It's just getting old.
Archie
Yes you are correct about it, it isnt like it used to be. I remember when I first joined. It has changed. Could be to many newbies dont have the class or common sense or proper up bringing the old members have!
Steve W NE Grand Rapids, MI 88 Coupe
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Keep on keeping on guys! (Archie, who cares you get paid don't let the haters get to ya!) (Qwik, you definitely know what you wanted, and I am glad you stayed with what you had in mind.)
enughf about the trani he has chosen to each is there own i say and by the way the trani he bought is a good one i almost bought it a while back it has been looked over by Enginiered Preformance and in Jeffs opinion it was in great shape,the PO went and installed a LSD and not some cheap one the LSD alone is worth $700 the trani also has hydrolic through bearing so no more bullshit with slave failure, and for most of us includeing me thats alot more trani than we have, I personaly love 5 speed would never go auto the 6 speed is an option but so is putting food on your table, if the car is driven with respect and not like your 16 again the trani will be fine,if you want to do burnouts, drag race,or dont know how to shift then ya go auto, qwikgta enjoy it and Archies crew nice job maybe my next car will be in for a LS3 LOL i wish!!
I don't know if I actually owe you an answer to what the real problem was, I've told you the solution.
My post answered your quote that was included with my answer.
Despite whatever you think, because of your past dealings with other people; I am not trying to antagonize you here.
"I don't know." is a valid answer sometimes. While installing a new ECM with a known working tune might be a solution in the broad sense of the word, it doesn't clarify what the issue is. Not that it matters in the end, but it is an interesting thing to know about. I was simply trying to understand the actual problem; and not the quickest solution that best suits your business needs. If you don't know what the actual problem is, that's fine. Then so be it. Since I'm doing a mildly modified LS4 swap, knowing what the actual problem was might help me if I run into the same issue. That is all. I've got better things to do with my life than stalk your builds and try to point out every tiny issue and twist it around, unlike some other people of a certain forum.
Sorry Rob, but I had to try and make it clear to Archie that I'm not trying to antagonize him. I was merely interested in the idle issue to increase my knowledge on the matter. I've seen lots of issues in the computing industry where a whole batch of CPUs or memory will have one minor fatal error in them, and this struck me as a similar thing; though 3 isn't enough to be sure on whether it's a manufacturing or software issue.
Originally posted by dobey: I've got better things to do with my life than stalk your builds and try to point out every tiny issue and twist it around, unlike some other people of a certain forum.
Unlike one person of a certain forum. Sorry, I'm not trying to start anything either, just saying.
i always like archies build threads i dont care what he puts in (if you know me you know i am not a v8 fan) , i just like watching all the innovative stuff he does .the customer is always right and that is the way a good shop should be .lets see some finished pics....
Hey guys, no changes to the car. Almost have 500 miles on it. But with the crap wx we have been having, I have not been driving it much. I can't wait for some nice wx to drive it.
The other day I was coming home from a Fiero meeting, and traffic was pissing me off. When I got a chance to nail it, I did, and went from 40 to 70 in a second. It actually made me scream out loud. I can't get over the feelling of 480 hp in a Fiero. My GTO was fast, but not like this.
Beautiful work, beautiful motor... beautiful car, pre- and post-swap, for sure ! I'm fairly certain your car is the first car I ever saw with the lip spoiler. So thanks for the idea !
The motor pulled from the car was the 3.4L DOHC, yes ? Not that it much matters, but it looked to be a very clean, well-maintained engine. Most motors that I have seen pulled on this thread are typically dirty, tired, et cetera; I just wanted to give a kudos for keeping the original engine in such a good looking condition, as everyone else has beaten me to all of the other compliments that are warranted.
Beautiful work, beautiful motor... beautiful car, pre- and post-swap, for sure ! I'm fairly certain your car is the first car I ever saw with the lip spoiler. So thanks for the idea !
The motor pulled from the car was the 3.4L DOHC, yes ? Not that it much matters, but it looked to be a very clean, well-maintained engine. Most motors that I have seen pulled on this thread are typically dirty, tired, et cetera; I just wanted to give a kudos for keeping the original engine in such a good looking condition, as everyone else has beaten me to all of the other compliments that are warranted.
Thanks for the words. I did luck out. The DOHC motor had 29K on it when I got it. I spent a few months cleaning and detailing it. Install took a while, but i didn't want to "Slap it" together. Some have done the swap (DOHC) in a few weekends, and I give them credit. I took a few years. I wanted everything done just right.
I didn't want to wait for the LS3 swap, I knew if I did it, it would take years again, and I want to enjoy the car, so I went to Archie.
I want to give a shout out to Rob... I came from Indiana to visit inlaws in Virginia Beach, Virginia and remembered his build. I PM'ed Rob as a shot in the dark to see if I could check out his ride. Luckily, few days later I was in his driveway. The LS376 test drive was breath-taking. Definitely a drivers car; justifiably authoritative. The Archie install was impressive as was as all of the work he has done on the car himself. Spent nearly 2 hours talking about his car and experiences. Thanks for your time and tour of you fine fiero. Definitely made my spring break vacation!
No prob. Had fun talking cars with you. Sounds like you have a good idea of what you want, and you have patiance to wait until you find it. Any time you want to chat about Fieros, feel free.
So after Bob and Dobey complete thier LS swaps, we just may have the highest per car horsepower average of any Fiero club in the nation! Might have to start a thread on that
Originally posted by Jim88GT: So after Bob and Dobey complete thier LS swaps, we just may have the highest per car horsepower average of any Fiero club in the nation! Might have to start a thread on that
Jim
At the rate I'm going with all the travel I'm having to do, Bob might get his done first. But hopefully I can start getting stuff done in a couple weeks. Unfortunately also have way too much house and yard work I need to do as well.
So after Bob and Dobey complete thier LS swaps, we just may have the highest per car horsepower average of any Fiero club in the nation! Might have to start a thread on that
Jim
And speaking of progress...TRANNY IS ON ITS WAY!!!
Hey guys, no changes to the car. Almost have 500 miles on it. But with the crap wx we have been having, I have not been driving it much. I can't wait for some nice wx to drive it.
The other day I was coming home from a Fiero meeting, and traffic was pissing me off. When I got a chance to nail it, I did, and went from 40 to 70 in a second. It actually made me scream out loud. I can't get over the feelling of 480 hp in a Fiero. My GTO was fast, but not like this.
qwikgta, Just finished reading your thread; congrats on the great car. I'm a little jealous
Archie, 22+ years of installations speak for themselves. Way to go and keep up the good work!!
------------------ 88 Fiero GT; 03 Sunfire; 86 Chevy Silverado; 09 Vibe GT; 57 Chevy Bel Air "Be an optimist, at least until they start moving animals in pairs to Cape Kennedy." Anonymous.
Hey guys, no changes to the car. Almost have 500 miles on it. But with the crap wx we have been having, I have not been driving it much. I can't wait for some nice wx to drive it.
The other day I was coming home from a Fiero meeting, and traffic was pissing me off. When I got a chance to nail it, I did, and went from 40 to 70 in a second. It actually made me scream out loud. I can't get over the feelling of 480 hp in a Fiero. My GTO was fast, but not like this.
You have 480 horsepower in an engine that weighs in at only 415 lbs. That's a very impressive power to weight ratio. No wonder the car performs as it does. Enjoy driving it.
------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Flotech Afterburner Exhaust, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
Thanks for the words. I did luck out. The DOHC motor had 29K on it when I got it. I spent a few months cleaning and detailing it. Install took a while, but i didn't want to "Slap it" together. Some have done the swap (DOHC) in a few weekends, and I give them credit. I took a few years. I wanted everything done just right.
I didn't want to wait for the LS3 swap, I knew if I did it, it would take years again, and I want to enjoy the car, so I went to Archie.
a few old pics of the DOHC
Rob
If my 3.4TDC resto turns out half as nice as this, I'd be "over the moon". You did a fantastic job on that swap Rob.
Steve. I have more pics, and better ones too. I never got around to doing the "little things" to make the set up cleaner. After a while, I just wanted it to get done. I would have went back and moved some of the lines and wires to clean it up. I'd still be driving it with the DOHC if I never would have gotten that GTO. That LS power was hard to live without, and once I drove in a Fiero with an LS3 I just had to have one.
THanks guys for bringing this one back to the top, I need to update it.
This is a beautiful build and i hope to have a Fiero just like this. I am fairly new to the Fiero scene, but i'm not going anywhere thanks to cars like this one. Hope the car is doing well.
Just would like to say QUKGT that you have a really sweet car there man. Never thought I could like an olive drab green Fiero GT but somehow that thing pulls it off nicely. Like the wheels and the interior and the whole package works nicely together. As far as that engine goes......WOW did Archie and company do a beautiful job on it. It looks totally clean and like it was born there. That little action video of the car in the twisties proves enough to me that the car must absolutely haul major ass... You must be on cloud nine with that thing. It sounds great too. Unfortunately for me that kind of swap is above my pay grade but it sure is nice to see others enjoying it. Love the poweder coated cradle too it looks real sweet. You probably would win the award for the most unique and different fiero custom on here and you can guarantee that you will probably NEVER EVER pull up to a light right next to another car just like it LOL... Thanks for sharing your build and to Archie, regardless of what some here think from all the builds I have read and enjoyed that you have done on here it is clear in my mind at least who is the BEST Fiero shop in the land....Well done and congratulations on your success. Peace
Thanks for the kind words. I do love this car. It was not built for the track, it was built for fun. And I have a lot of fun driving and showing it. Archie and his crew did a great job, and I have done a few things myself. Its not done, and may never be, but its still something to look at. I didn't think I would like the color, but after two seasons I think it may just stay this color.
Here are a few more pics.
I need to get a few new photos of the new hood.
Rob
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Thanks guys. I'm looking forward to some warmer days so I can get out in the garage and get my new suspension/brakes on her. Not a visual thing, but it should drive/stop so much better.
UPDATE: a few weeks ago I contacted Archie and ordered one of his 6 speed - F40 kits. I purchased a "0" mile F40 from Schram and had it sent to Archie so his guy could take it apart and cryo the guts. I also had him install a quaffie LSD at the same time. Since then I have gotten the trans, the kit and started what I am calling "operation trans-plant". I'm a week into it and so far I have dropped the motor/trans/cradle and modified the engine compatment with the new notch needed for the F40. I have sent the exhaust out for ceramic coat and i'm also getting a few odd n ends powdercoated too. I'll also do a little detailing and painting of some of the things that Rob and Chris didn't get time to get too. I'm a little nervous about taking the whole thing apart, well taking it apart is easy, its getting it all back together again and making it work is what i'm most nervous about. I'll get some pics up soon and provide some more data too.
Also a few months ago, I ordered a complete front end kit (tubular upper/lower A arms, QA1 coil overs/dropped spindles), rear Koni's and 13" brake kit from Arraurat Motorsports (HT Motorsports). I have a lot of work ahead of me and I have to get moving. I only have 49 more days until the 30th in Indy, and my plan is to drive out to it.
More soon
Rob
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Did the swap use stock axles with the getrag or was the engine still shifted? If so, how much?
stock axles are used, but with a different inboard tripot on the pass side. The engine is moved a little to the drivers side and a longer tripot is used. The extra space serves two purposes, one it takes up the small amount of driver side shift, and two, it is needed so that the tripot can clear the ring gear on the flywheel.
Rob
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So the weekend update. Got the motor off the cradle, removed the trans, removed all the Getrag 5 speed stuff and attached all the F40 stuff.
then I went ahead and attached the F40 to the motor.
then put the motor/trans back onto the cradle. This was a pain in the *** but I did it. Then I had to level the motor/trans with the measurments I took before removing the 5 speed. Then I fit, modified, drilled and welded the trans mounts back onto the cradle.
How's the transmission holding up?
