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Sport Fiero 2 - Quad4 by fourpoint9
Started on: 07-30-2011 11:45 PM
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Report this Post12-13-2011 11:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fourpoint9Click Here to visit fourpoint9's HomePageSend a Private Message to fourpoint9Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Here's some notes.

C203
A is not used
B to ECU BB1, BC16, Orange
C to ECU GE7 Brown/White
D to A/C Select Switch Pink/Black
E to Oil Press Switch Tan
F to ECU BA6 Pink/Black
G to Speedo Converter
H to ECU BB11 Grey/Black
J to Injector Harness Tan/White
K to Controlled Canister Purge Pink/Black and to Speedo Converter
L to Fuel Pump Relay Tan/White
M to Ground
N to A/C Relay Pink/Black
P is Upshift light ECU GF4 Tan/Black
R to Ground for Speedo Converter


C500
C1 and E1 go to plug in Trans near shift linkage
C2 Temp Sender Green/White
C3 to IDI Black/White
D1 to ECU GE8 Green White
D2 not used
D3 Temp Sender Green
E3 to IDI Pink Black

and a link to the Speedo Conversion http://members.shaw.ca/efog/Pen/4.9/q4_spdo.jpg
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Report this Post02-04-2012 10:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fourpoint9Click Here to visit fourpoint9's HomePageSend a Private Message to fourpoint9Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Made some Exhaust progress today.

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I put the exhaust on. The tip will be here tomorrow. I hope to have good weather this weekend so I can put the whole thing in the car.
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Cool swap, love hot the car looks with those rims, clean and simple.

Someone was asking about the isuzu used with the LD9 and I got worried you had one, then I scrolled back up and saw that it was the getrag *thumbs up*

To sum it up the isuzu from the jbodies sucks! I went through three, one I had the second gear synchro dissapear on me and cause some bearing damage. Could be because the previous owner didnt know how to drive stick, rode the clutch and sold the car to me. Two was a chunk of ice busting a hole in the new tranny a month later, not the trans fault. Number three the spider gears went poof, I do drive agressively but I have not had issues in any of the other 5 manual cars I've owned in the last 10 years, including engine swapped fiero's.

There's a reason GM stopped using the isuzu in the j-bodies in 99 and went back to a getrag made manual.

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Someone was asking about the isuzu used with the LD9 and I got worried you had one, then I scrolled back up and saw that it was the getrag *thumbs up*

Yeah, that was me. I've been considering an LD9 swap, and since my car is already an Isuzu/Duke, seemed logical to swap the appropriate Isuzu box in to avoid having to replace any other parts. They are rubbish boxes though, there have been many threads on here with gory pictures of them with big holes in the cases and rounded gears
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I'm making slow progress. My nephew has access to machine tools and stock so he turned me some aluminum cradle bushings. I still haven't found a way to remove the old bushing material that's easier and faster than burning it out.
[img]http://www.flickr.com/photos/76841951@N02/6807354462/[img]

The aluminum bushings fit perfectly.
[img]http://www.flickr.com/photos/76841951@N02/6953483695/in/photostream/[img]

Next up is cutting out what's left of the old battery tray, since I moved the battery up under the spare tire.
[img]http://www.flickr.com/photos/76841951@N02/6807305258/in/photostream/[img]

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it's in. Nothing is hooked up, but it's in. Looks like I will not have to notch the deck lid


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This is one swap I regret never doing. I guess I will make it up to myself and do a boosted ecotec someday.
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Looks good! Can't wait for the video of the engine running. The guy I bought my 88 from had done a few HO quad 4 swaps and said they can have a v8 kinda rumble.
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Looks good, fourpoint. Is that a new shifter cable?
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Yes. It had an Isuzu so I bought everything from Rodney. I cut the shift cable insulation off the one and plan to cut it off the other. It's not needed when it's for a Quad4.

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Working on the rear suspension and 11.25 brakes.

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Had a port for the switch installed in the new AC hose.
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Report this Post07-06-2012 07:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fourpoint9Click Here to visit fourpoint9's HomePageSend a Private Message to fourpoint9Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Plan for this weekend -
3 new Ebrake cables to finish up the rear brakes.
For the front
BellTech 2" Drop spindles
Front 11.25 Brakes
Customized Specialty Products Adjustable Upper Control Arms
Camero Power Rack N Pinion

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Cheers. Was wondering how one would fit with the GM supercharger kit for the LD9 involved, but if it's tight that's likely not an option. Guess we'll see when you get that sucker in the hole


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqQ8HGtkIWw
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqQ8HGtkIWw


Yeah I saw that a few weeks back. Very neat! He's had to remove the right hingebox but that can be worked around.
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Progress report.
Ebrake cables installed. Hubs created from Fiero rotors. 11.25 brackets installed on drop spindles. LF ball joints replaced.

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I was going to work on finishing the front brakes and suspension but one of the MOOG upper ball joints was a cheap version (one on the right) with the same part number as the good MOOG Problem Solver. They put a castle nut in the package but there is not hole for a cotter pin. I had O'Reilly's order another and told them it had to be a Problem Solver.



So we went to work on the power steering. Here's the before.



and the racks side by side. By this time I had cut the mounts off the Camero rack.
Following the WCF directions here



Stops, adapters and Fiero inner tie rods with the lips gound off, red loc-tite.



Here's the WCF adapter plate installed. You cut the driver's side rack mount off the sub frame and drill a hole for a mount bolt.



Rack installed. I'll finish the hoses tomorrow.



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Can you tell me how you are gonna attach your power steering pump? And maybe what it is off of. WCF is a bit vauge in all that information.
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The Quad has a pulley on the end of the intake cam shaft and the pump mounts below it. Scroll up to see a photo of it in one of fourpoint9's earlier posts.
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Here's the power steering pump



Got the hoses hooked up. Bent the lines to point the correct direction.



Couple of engine shots.





Finishing up the front brakes and suspension

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Steve, you do nice work!
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Like the power steering...good job!
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Thank you Patrick and Rob for the encouraging words.

I started it today. It was not starting before because I had the purple starter wire connected to a yellow starter wire on the C500 I was using. Had to swap the C500 that was on the car with the duke which had the purple one. Now it works. It's not very loud which is fine.

Lots of work to do before I drive it. I need to lower the rear to match the 2 inch drop spindles. On the front I maxed the adjustable control arms and ball joints to see how much negative camber I could get. It's very negative, more than I will want. I think I will see what the rears are at for camber a keep it about the same. Hopefully something like -2 degrees. For Caster I think I'll set it to 4 degrees because I have power steering. zero front toe and toe in 1/8 in the rear. I did alignments for many years but I am open to hearing others opinions. I have a camber gauge and will set it at home and then have a shop check it to see how I did.

I have to put the AC hose back in. I flushed it and it's got a new compressor and accumulator. I have an AC shop (Northwest Air Conditioning) that will charge it up for me.

The wipers are stuck on. From what I read it's the switch on the column.

Headliner needs to be redone.
Here's a pick of the power steering hoses with the plastic liner back in. I think I'll make a cover.



I bought this side scoop from http://www.fierowarehouse.com/
Think I'll paint it black for now. I may paint the scoop, trim, mirrors and vents blue when it gets a new paint job.
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Customized Specialty Products Adjustable Upper Control Arms






I'm moderately surprised no one's asked further about your control arms....

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Yeah I thought somebody would ask about them. I bought them (a few years ago) by picking out one of their control arms that would work and called them. They do not make the sleves small enough for the Fiero so I ordered the shortest. I had a friend cut the sleves and threaded ends down. I had small cylinders made to fit inside the bushings (you can see one on the right) because they were made for a larger bolt. I had to trim a small amount off of the lip on the rear side of the spring pearch edge to allow the control arm to travel without rubbing.


Adjustable Upper Control Arm SPC Performance Video
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Remind me what kind of rear brake setup you're using.
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11.25 LeBarron rotors Caddy calipers. I bought the brackets from Archie.

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Yeah I thought somebody would ask about them. I bought them (a few years ago) by picking out one of their control arms that would work and called them. They do not make the sleves small enough for the Fiero so I ordered the shortest. I had a friend cut the sleves and threaded ends down. I had small cylinders made to fit inside the bushings (you can see one on the right) because they were made for a larger bolt. I had to trim a small amount off of the lip on the rear side of the spring pearch edge to allow the control arm to travel without rubbing.


Adjustable Upper Control Arm SPC Performance Video



Have a link to the MFG's website? I'm at work and don't want to bring up Youtube.
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http://www.spc-tv.com/catalogs.html

spc Jegs

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http://www.spc-tv.com/catalogs.html

spc Jegs



Or: http://www.spcperformance.com/ (linked from the above)
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Any updates?/ Done yet?
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A "whats going on" bump
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Whoa! Hold on there one minute. You need to tell me more about those control arms Mr.
Part numbers? Very interested

 
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Progress report.
Ebrake cables installed. Hubs created from Fiero rotors. 11.25 brackets installed on drop spindles. LF ball joints replaced.



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So how's the Quad going dude? I'm finally starting to dip my toes in the waters... bought an LD9 from a 2000 Cav for reasonably cheap with a blown head gasket to start building up for the car... but god almighty I'm going to need a lot of bits to build this.
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Originally posted by fourpoint9 in This thread:

I'm not planning on doing the Fest or the Picnic but I will be at the Rod Run to the End of the World for sure.


Steve, every year I'm hoping to possibly see this Fiero at the picnic in Arlington. Do you still plan to get her together someday?

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Steve, every year I'm hoping to possibly see this Fiero at the picnic in Arlington. Do you still plan to get her together someday?


Thanks for asking Patrick,
It is close to being done but other things in life have moved the blue coupe towards the bottom of the priority list.
Things it needs:
It has a leak at the water pump
It's throwing a code - must be I did not get everything perfect with the wiring.
Needs to have the clutch cylinder figured out - I have Rodney's kit and some other ideas but I do not have it working as of my last attempt.

I'd accept a reasonable offer for it, to see someone that has time for it finish it.
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Hey Steve

I have a Quad 4 H.O. In my '86 GT that needs to be massaged. What was.the guys name on quad community out of Buffalo that done the build on your Quad motor?
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Hey Steve

I have a Quad 4 H.O. In my '86 GT that needs to be massaged. What was.the guys name on quad community out of Buffalo that done the build on your Quad motor?


His name is Jeff I have his number. PM me if you want it.
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How loud is it with that exhaust setup?
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