I've been contemplating making a new Fiero headlight option available for some time now. I've just been busy in the past with finishing school, etc. Lately I've had some time to make some progress with things and have a preliminary design in place. It will still be a while before my first prototype is made, but I'd like to gauge some interest to see if others might be willing to purchase my headlight mod down the road.
The basic design is very similar to that of the Corvette C5R:
They would replace your stock headlights, eliminate the pop up action (no longer have to rely on those motors), and not require any cutting of your hood/frame/etc. Basically a bolt on.
They would also come with your choice of 4 bi-xenon projectors, or 2 bixenon projectors and some sort of turn signal/fog light pair. (Projector shrouds included)
It would also include the lenses, the bucket and brackets. At this point, I think I would leave the wiring/bulbs up to you, or if someone else wants to jump in and make harnesses I don't mind.
This is just a quick photoshop of how it might look on a fiero:
Theres my sales pitch for now! Comments/critiques welcome
Munson's units were the best flush mounts available to us but unfortunately he is no longer with us .i have Norm's but the brightness is not high enough without fog lamps .the C5 idea is a good one and i almost tried to adapt a set .i like the idea of a headlamp set that bulges up just enough to give a better beam but does not require hood and bumper surgery .i would really like a set of these .
That is what kept me from buying Kris Munson's... you were restricted to using the thin rectangular camaro lights which were set way back. This would cause a large shadow in front of your car. Not really ideal, but slick looking none the less.
These would "bulge" as you mentioned and allow you to run projectors that could be mounted further forward and higher up.
I believe it was FierociousGT on here that was trying something like this but ran into a problem. Maybe you could PM him and get an idea on what to expect. Personally, I like the idea and think it would look great.
Steve
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i likem but can you do a molded plastic flushmount? ay know with the corners and everything maybe thermo formed plexiglass? i do like your idea tho its unique and depending on the price id be interested in getting some
I believe it was FierociousGT on here that was trying something like this but ran into a problem. Maybe you could PM him and get an idea on what to expect. Personally, I like the idea and think it would look great.
Steve
I think he was trying to adapt the actual C5 aftermarket headlights. I will be making my own from the ground up so they will fit. Not using something that already exists.
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Originally posted by Niterrorz:
i likem but can you do a molded plastic flushmount? ay know with the corners and everything maybe thermo formed plexiglass? i do like your idea tho its unique and depending on the price id be interested in getting some
Not sure what you really mean by the first part... but yes they will be formed lenses, everything should fit nicely. I will be keeping the price as low as possible!
Those look great! I would definately be interested.
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I really like that idea and although it looks a little buggy on the fiero I think that with paint to match car color it would look great! the only thing I would be concerned with would be the amount of light that they produce but other than that I like them.
i was talking about having the look of the stock healight doors but using plexiglass. the flush mounts ive seen dont look great they are just a piece of plastic layed out over the headlight hole. i was hoping for more of a drop in unit in place of the actuall door.
i was talking about having the look of the stock healight doors but using plexiglass. the flush mounts ive seen dont look great they are just a piece of plastic layed out over the headlight hole. i was hoping for more of a drop in unit in place of the actuall door.
i was talking about having the look of the stock healight doors but using plexiglass. the flush mounts ive seen dont look great they are just a piece of plastic layed out over the headlight hole. i was hoping for more of a drop in unit in place of the actuall door.
It would be a replacement for the door. They would be formed lenses instead of headlight doors.
ya but flush not with that big bump in the middle altho that one looks good to
Without the bump you can't put big enough round projectors in there... even if you did and sunk them down / way back, you would get really poor lighting out of a set up like that. I know the flush/non-bump looks good too, but in terms of function its not ideal.
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Originally posted by Vintovkamosin:
I like it. Once I get my fiero I will consider a set if you ever get these made. How much would you charge?
Not sure yet, I have to source out some more parts...
The camaro lights in the Fiero and in the Camaro are still different applications. I believe there is less obstruction directly in front/under the Camaro application than there is on the Fiero.
If you ask around to some of the guys with the Camaro lights flushmount on this forum, I would say that most would report a shadow being cast in front of the car. I'm just speaking from what I've heard in terms of reviews so thats the best I can do.
This is not to say that my set up will be the greatest thing ever. I'm hoping to improve the flushmount design and offer newer technology in terms of headlight options. Only time will tell how much (if) there is an improvement. The look may not float everyone's boat but I hope it gets some people interested!
DISCLAIMER: If prices requires a testicle or other body part to be sold to afford mod, then Hulki's interest in the project could possibly be terminated. Seller's version of affordable may not directly match Hulki's version of affordable, and may therefore terminate Hulki's interest. Economy and Uncle Sam could terminate Hulki's interest to buy at any time. Not valid in the state of California.
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DISCLAIMER: If prices requires a testicle or other body part to be sold to afford mod, then Hulki's interest in the project could possibly be terminated. Seller's version of affordable may not directly match Hulki's version of affordable, and may therefore terminate Hulki's interest. Economy and Uncle Sam could terminate Hulki's interest to buy at any time. Not valid in the state of California.
lol... I promise no testicles or body parts required. You can keep those. I'm not looking to get rich off of something like this. Just thought it would be cool to design something that other people would consider putting on their cars.
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Originally posted by Jim_Martin29:
Once installed, can they be removed and go back to stock?
I am interest.
Yes. There will be no cutting or anything that would prevent you from going back to stock. The goal is a complete bolt on.
I hope they don't look like frog eyes either
There will be some level of assembly/ "do it yourself" involved such as painting the lenses and wiring. So really, you could do whatever else you like to them to make them your own or more subtle. I think its nicer that way.
I am most certainly interested. My pop up lights have never worked and I'm not sure if I really want to fix them anyway These are the first non pop up lights that have really caught my interest. I like the idea of relocating the turn signals in the headlight fixture. It frees up the stock blinker location for some factory looking fog lamps. I will definitely keep my eye out for these.
Interested, i like the look with the bump up like the vette has, and hopefully it doesn't look froggy. I never was a fan of the flush mount just looked to much like an afterthought.
Should you achieve the C5 look, and the photoshop image look, I am in for a set just as long as they are priced within reason... thx for your effort on this
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So does that mean that is a definite yes that they'll be made?
I will follow through with making these. I just hope my prototype turns out well. I will be making these myself because contracting a business to do them in such low quantities isn't feasible.
Question for everyone. How many would prefer that the headlights lift up with the hood, or how many would rather have them stay with the rest of the car independent of the hood. Just looking into my mounting options and I could do it either way. I think I would prefer having them not attached to the hood in any way, but thats just me.
Question for everyone. How many would prefer that the headlights lift up with the hood, or how many would rather have them stay with the rest of the car independent of the hood. Just looking into my mounting options and I could do it either way. I think I would prefer having them not attached to the hood in any way, but thats just me.
The headlights look great. I think not attached to the hood would make more sense.
I also agree, NOT attached to the hood would be the best option, then when opening the hood we won't be dragging wiring with it, cuts down on the wiring needed.
