On a recommendation, I removed the CC entirely and changed some of the vac routing. I also refitted the exhaust. Result? The car idles fairly well now. And the tuning begins.

i hope you did a boost leak check.

Look who was out of the garage today!







Got a bath too!

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2009 G8 GT Kook's 1 3/4 LT's, Kooks catted Xpipe, Magnaflow axleback, Vararam CAI, HSRK, HPTuners, Atari gauges

1988 Fiero GT L67, PT67bb, w2a, F23, & more

1987 Fiero GT 3.4TDC Road Racer.

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Well, not much to report. I dusted the inside of the hood black so it isnt so ugly now. I am half temped to put the stock hood back on until I can get the vented hood thru the body shop. Plus, I swear it's "warped". I have a block of wood under the pass corner with a 10# weight on the end. I'll set it out in the 80f Florida sun tomorrow and see if it helps.

I priced out some PRF1's. Man.. its so hard not to pull the trigger. But, I said no more new "toys" until I know this damn car isnt hiding anymore surprises. I think I'll plastidip the stock wheels and put them back on the car. Not too keen about running all that neg camber up front just to kinda get the wheels to clear. Totally my fault. I dont know what I was thinking when I ordered that wheel size and offset.

Robbie and I will start tuning this weekend. Tim @ ZZP wants some on the road datalogs but I am not too sure about driving it with its current tune. Need to clean the idle up a bit to get rid of the lean surge.

Also, I don't know what Dean did to the brakes but the pedal is HORRIBLE! Lots of travel and its soft. I know he put something on. MC or booster? There was a recent "upgrade" everyone was talking about, and he did it to my car. But I think it was meant for cars with BBK's and not the stock brakes. I have got to get this figured out.

My 3" exhaust is being held up by a few tight bends that are required. Hopefully I'll get that soon.

Eric is working on a set of new hardlines for my chargecooler. I think that was reall nice of him to help out like that.

[This message has been edited by BV MotorSports (edited 04-24-2013).]

BV,
That beast is looking really good! Maybe just getting it into one color (paint hood/install red hood and scoop/vents) would make you feel a bit better about it. Its coming along nicely and the work you are doing is awesome and detailed. Just keep forging ahead...not long now!

Looking good Steve!

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'88 GT, 3800 SC II, IMSA/MadCurls widebody combo, Choptop, Borla exhaust, GT-One NSX Headlights, RX-8 mirrors.
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DAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Welcome back buddy!

Cool Dave's in da house

quote Robbie and I will start tuning this weekend. Tim @ ZZP wants some on the road datalogs but I am not too sure about driving it with its current tune. Need to clean the idle up a bit to get rid of the lean surge.

Its really leaner than like 20:1? Your idle should be up around an observed 18:1 or so on that cam for a "normal" idle, anything richer would probably be "too rich" in reality. Idle surge comes from cam surge which comes from improper timing and or too much fuel.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: Its really leaner than like 20:1? Your idle should be up around an observed 18:1 or so on that cam for a "normal" idle, anything richer would probably be "too rich" in reality. Idle surge comes from cam surge which comes from improper timing and or too much fuel.

PM me your email and I'll send you the most recent datalog

Started installing the WBo2 last night. Looks like if I use the yellow wire it will keep the ECU happy for the NBo2 reading. Hopefully we can get some tuning done this weekend. I got a lot going on this weekend so it will be interesting!

quote Looks like if I use the yellow wire it will keep the ECU happy for the NBo2 reading.

No, this will cause tons and tons of problems.

How so? The directions on the LC1 show that I can use the WBo2 in place of the stock o2. Use the yellow wire from the WBo2 (narrow feed) and tap it back into the original harness. Why would this cause a problem? I dont have a problem adding another bung, but it seems like this would be a simple option.

Not to hijack your thread BV but I have contacted Sgt Burns and Lt Sims. Things have been set in motion on my end.

quote Originally posted by johnyrottin: Not to hijack your thread BV but I have contacted Sgt Burns and Lt Sims. Things have been set in motion on my end.

Its all good. Better late than never!

Beautiful

quote Originally posted by nitroheadz28: Beautiful

I agree. Hands down one of the nicest bits for my car. Worth every single penny, if not much more.

That is Purty!

quote Originally posted by BV MotorSports: Custom made (made to order) T304SS 3" vband exhaust for the '88!!!!!!!!! <snip>

THAT is friggin' schweet!!

That exhaust is very nice!

Very sexy!

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Thanks Dave. I keep trying to organize time to start tuning the car. I guess the delays arent so bad. Hopefully my exhaust will be here soon. I so want to drop the hammer on this damn car!

quote Originally posted by BV MotorSports: Thanks Dave. I keep trying to organize time to start tuning the car. I guess the delays arent so bad. Hopefully my exhaust will be here soon. I so want to drop the hammer on this damn car!

There shouldnt be much if any tuning to do on it. Changing anything more than a few tweaks after a base tune is extremely uncommon on "normal" stuff.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: There shouldnt be much if any tuning to do on it. Changing anything more than a few tweaks after a base tune is extremely uncommon on "normal" stuff.

Of course you are right, I was trying to make me feel better about the delays! lol

Nice exhaust. Makes mine look like a kindergartner made it...

Now that is very nice!
No trunk cutting needed, right? i like the tips are they resonated?
al

No cutting or alteration from stock.

The exhaust has been shipped. If all goes well I'll get it installed and the car will be going in for a tune next week (locally, till I can get about 500 break-in miles then its off to MASE). I need to get a few minor things done before then. Alignment, wire the wb02 thats already installed, and pressure bleed the brakes and clutch. *fingers crossed*

If, and that's a BIG if, all goes well I plan on taking the car to a local upholstery shop and get all the leather and alcantara work on the interior. I figure next year I can get the car painted satin GMG.

What are you going to gain by taking it to MASE?

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quote Originally posted by Justinbart: What are you going to gain by taking it to MASE?

Get it dyno tuned by a professional that has tuned several of my previous cars.

Edit it clarify for you Justin. I plan on getting the tune cleaned up (locally) to be able to safely drive the car in order to break it in. I figure 400-500 miles should be enough to shake the car down and find any problems before I drive 5hrs to see MASE. I am sure the local guy could tune the car very well. I just trust MASE to do the best tune possible. MASE can take a well tuned car and typically make more power, with less boost, and make it so much more drivable (smooth). The guy is probably the 2nd best tuner I have ever worked with. First being Richard Bulmer of Tracktive Solutions UK. I choose to go this method to, hopefully, avoid hauling the car all the way to MASE only to find out there is a problem that could have been found if I took the time and got some miles on her first.

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Its impossible for any tuner to make more power than any other tuner... you are tuning 2 things... and GM has already tuned your normal driver type stuff. Doing any tuning on this is going to be a complete waste of time and money.

Having said that... Have you considered a pillar pod for the additional gauges?
Keep your stockers in place.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: Its impossible for any tuner to make more power than any other tuner... you are tuning 2 things... and GM has already tuned your normal driver type stuff. Doing any tuning on this is going to be a complete waste of time and money.

Say what????????

quote Originally posted by BV MotorSports: Say what????????

I had the exact same reaction.

quote Originally posted by Raydar: Having said that... Have you considered a pillar pod for the additional gauges? Keep your stockers in place.

I thought about it and it does seem to be a really good option. IIRC its the dual pillar pod from a mid 90's Neon, right?

quote Originally posted by BV MotorSports: I thought about it and it does seem to be a really good option. IIRC its the dual pillar pod from a mid 90's Neon, right?

Now that you mention it, you may be right. I haven't thought about it for a while, though.
It WAS mentioned here, I'm pretty sure.

Edit - https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...050119-2-053703.html

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