Just because "MASE" sets your AFR to 11.5 and timing to 16 degrees, it doesnt mean it is going to make more power than if some guy down the road does the same thing.
Just because "MASE" sets your AFR to 11.5 and timing to 16 degrees, it doesnt mean it is going to make more power than if some guy down the road does the same thing.
Block tuning is for beginners... MASE is no beginner.
BV...big shout out here in your thread to say you were right. Should have listened long ago and retrieved my car and parts. I wanted to believe in the good and the promises from "he who shall never be named again" made but they turned out to be empty.
Originally posted by johnyrottin: BV...big shout out here in your thread to say you were right. Should have listened long ago and retrieved my car and parts. I wanted to believe in the good and the promises from "he who shall never be named again" made but they turned out to be empty.
You where not the only one that fell for Dean's narcissistic lies and it didn't help with his cheerleaders backing him. Where are they now? with their tails between their legs.
BV...big shout out here in your thread to say you were right. Should have listened long ago and retrieved my car and parts. I wanted to believe in the good and the promises from "he who shall never be named again" made but they turned out to be empty.
It's all good. I'm sorry you got screwed like the other Whodumbass customers.
So you had it in your house two hours ago, why isn't it on the car yet? Slacker!
LOL I know.. just not all that excited about the car anymore. I need to install it, verify the downpipe length and how much needs trimmed before the flex joint. Thats why that part wasnt welded on yet. Then its a matter of removing the downpipe and welding on the Vband.. and adding a bung for the wb02.
I'd assume you already purchased your gauges but ill throw this out there anyway. PLX makes a very thin digital gauge about 1/2" thick, and it can monitor 16 different sensors. It's called a DM-6, I used a very thin double stick tape and installed it on the flat part of the dash under the RPM tach. Im currently using it for wideband AFR and boost but plan on adding additional sensors, it works well.
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I have a Aeroforce Interceptor and a LC1 wb02. Granted, the aeroforce has an .5v input for the wbo2 but, since I have the gauge, I might as well run it.
I drove the car to the exhaust shop today. It actually ran fairly well! The alignment makes it feel really loose though. They are going to fit the exhaust and weld it all up and do an alignment on it. I really dont think they are going to be able to do that last job, so I may end up taking it to Lamar's. Then, if all goes well (oh, please not ANOTHER jinx) its off to be tuned.....
So I noticed a few things while driving around today. Here they are:
Doesn't like to hot start. It will start, it just struggles. It has a new battery and is kept on a battery tender at night. IIRC it has 700cca. I think it may be in the tune though.
1st & 3rd are difficult to engage. It feels like a throw issue. I have played with the custom cables a bit but haven't quite got them right yet. They are the new cables from California Push Pull specifically for the F23 swap.
Something doesn't feel right with the engine/trans mounts. it feels like the engine is trying to move around. I need to double check it. I know I check eveything while the cradle was out. I guess I may need to upgrade the trans mounts, they are the stock items.
Hey man at least you are driving it finally LOL... The little issues can be dealt with as you go along. It looks pretty good too. Hows the power dept.? enjoy it man you've earned it. Wish you were closer I'd love to go for a ride in that bad boy. Peace
Pete
------------------ "May the grins begin when you turn the key and hear the engine roar over your shoulder" ......Gall57 (slightly modified LOL)
IDK, I havent got on it yet. It only has a base map from ZZP in it. Once the exhaust is fitted and a bung is added for the wbo2 I can start datalogging. Then ZZP (Turbo Tim) should be able to dial her in a bit.
IDK, I havent got on it yet. It only has a base map from ZZP in it. Once the exhaust is fitted and a bung is added for the wbo2 I can start datalogging. Then ZZP (Turbo Tim) should be able to dial her in a bit.
I wouldnt expect much if any tuning needed afterwards... You are really used to running jank speed density systems or something because maf cars like this are cake.
If there ever were a time when I wished you were right, this would be it. Though what about the hard start when hot issue? I know you looked at the datalogs, and I haven't done any adjustments like you suggested. Mostly because I didnt understand what I was looking at in HPT (hey atleast I am honest!). It acts like there is too much timing during cranking. But only when its hot. Also, the coolant temps were pretty much dead on 185 all day.
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Turbo Tim suggested something really cool. My HPT is the basic kit. It doesnt have the input on the side of the controller for the wbo2 input. Had I paid attention when I bought the damn thing, I would have got the deluxe version... Anyway, he suggested I take the 5v sensor lead from my LC1 (white or green, I cant remember) and run the wire to the EGR pin of the ECU. That way it will log the wbo2. Pretty neat huh?
If there ever were a time when I wished you were right, this would be it. Though what about the hard start when hot issue? I know you looked at the datalogs, and I haven't done any adjustments like you suggested. Mostly because I didnt understand what I was looking at in HPT (hey atleast I am honest!). It acts like there is too much timing during cranking. But only when its hot. Also, the coolant temps were pretty much dead on 185 all day.
I have never had a car not start on me... Typically any idle issues are related to lack of timing with the st5 cam, but unlikely to cause starting issues. Most long crank situations would be related to fuel pressure issues.
Its not a long crank, its a hard crank.. Ever take a distributor car and give it too much/little advance? It will hit, then pause, then crank. That is exactly what mine is doing.
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Turbo Tim suggested something really cool. My HPT is the basic kit. It doesnt have the input on the side of the controller for the wbo2 input. Had I paid attention when I bought the damn thing, I would have got the deluxe version... Anyway, he suggested I take the 5v sensor lead from my LC1 (white or green, I cant remember) and run the wire to the EGR pin of the ECU. That way it will log the wbo2. Pretty neat huh?
That sounds like a great idea. I'm in your same situation, basic kit and I want a wideband sensor. Be sure to post how it turns out!
Its not a long crank, its a hard crank.. Ever take a distributor car and give it too much/little advance? It will hit, then pause, then crank. That is exactly what mine is doing.
Front mount battery? I hate to say "check your grounds", but...
What about your cable size? What about your connections, especially at the starter?
I'm running at least a #2 wire from the battery to the starter. My grounds are two #4s from the engine to the frame, and one #4 from the battery to the stud where the brake booster mounts. I have no difficulties whatsoever starting a 4.9. Hot or not.
I'm using a gear reduction starter (from an Allante) now. I used to have heat soak issues with the stock 4.9 starter. Make sure you've got the correct starter. (I understand that L67s were supposed to have a gear reduction starter) and that it's good. If it looks like a stock Fiero starter, I'll bet it probably is. I understand they'll interchange.
Turbo Tim suggested something really cool. My HPT is the basic kit. It doesnt have the input on the side of the controller for the wbo2 input. Had I paid attention when I bought the damn thing, I would have got the deluxe version... Anyway, he suggested I take the 5v sensor lead from my LC1 (white or green, I cant remember) and run the wire to the EGR pin of the ECU. That way it will log the wbo2. Pretty neat huh?
You will need to create a custom PID to make the wideband read from the EGR. I can pm you the details if you need assistance setting it up. I've set them up to read the LC1 and the AEM widebands.
Great work bro... You should have done this all yourself from the beginning and saved yourself the headache and $$$$! Awesome car, I'm waiting on a dyno video then a road video.
Front mount battery? I hate to say "check your grounds", but...
What about your cable size? What about your connections, especially at the starter?
I'm running at least a #2 wire from the battery to the starter. My grounds are two #4s from the engine to the frame, and one #4 from the battery to the stud where the brake booster mounts. I have no difficulties whatsoever starting a 4.9. Hot or not.
I'm using a gear reduction starter (from an Allante) now. I used to have heat soak issues with the stock 4.9 starter. Make sure you've got the correct starter. (I understand that L67s were supposed to have a gear reduction starter) and that it's good. If it looks like a stock Fiero starter, I'll bet it probably is. I understand they'll interchange.
It is a FMB! Not sure on the cables, they actually look like the Norms kit I have. Both cables are ran to the engine. However, I am going to add a few additional grounds since it can hurt. It also has the gear reduction starter. I am so used to Fiero's, that was one of the first things I went to upgrade. LOL.
BMWGuru, I'd love to see what you did! Definitely PM me the info please.
Gadjet, I know, I know.. Hindsight and all. She is getting there.
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I just stopped at the muffler shop to pay the bill during my lunch break. WOW!!! This thing sounds amazing. I cant really explain it. It doesnt have that typical 3800 "tractor" sound. It has a very unusual, flat plane crank Ferrari sound.
I have to pick it up tonight and then drop it off at Lamar's Alignment shop. Expect pics and vids in the next day or so. Its really killing me now. I cant wait to get this thing tuned and driving on a regular basis. WOOOHOOO .... Yeah, I am a bit excited.
Though what about the hard start when hot issue? I know you looked at the datalogs, and I haven't done any adjustments like you suggested. Mostly because I didnt understand what I was looking at in HPT (hey atleast I am honest!). It acts like there is too much timing during cranking. But only when its hot. Also, the coolant temps were pretty much dead on 185 all day. 
