Luckily I know my way around these setups enough that I can do phone tuning with some degree of accuracy. BV knows his way around a laptop well enough to make it a painless process and we hardly spent 2 hours working on it from start to finish. I sent over a file to import for a base setup, then I just told him ~10 other tables that needed to be changed and cranked it up to a perfect cold start and cold idle, drove around, made a few boost runs, then cranked up the timing and leaned it out a bit... Couldn't have been easier!
Trick is knowing what these cars dont need to have changed, more so than knowing what to change.
oh, and try another oil filter... could be something stupid killing off your pressure when warm.
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You are the 3rd person to tell me to try an oil & filter change before ripping it apart. I honestly think its going to be a loose rod bolt. But, it couldn't hurt to try. I'll go get some 15w40 Rotella and a ACDelco filter.
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I'm sorry to hear the bad newz. Great job tuning as DH obviously knows his $h!t and is usually pretty darn helpful. But to bust his ballz ...
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I suggest you stop saying "hits".. It is completely non descriptive and pointless information.
Give some real data, psi/afr, logs, spool rpm, observed lag, timing, etc. Also suggest going open loop unless you really know what you are doing with that setup.
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FIrst hit under boost pulled up 13 degrees of timing at 11.1 afr with a good rich spike during spool .
Well Bravo to Darkhorizon for getting it setup right finally it only sucks it has a problem now. May be something may be nothing. If the setup maxed at 14.7 you might have been much higher without knowing possibly I guess. I am quite sure it hauls ass tho. I rode in and drove a supercharged fiero with several mods and it was insane I can only imagine what the turbo setup with higher boost and less drag will do. Color me jealous man... Good luck with it hope you get it sorted and get to enjoy that boost without drama for awhile once you do. peace
Pete
------------------ "May the grins begin when you turn the key and hear the engine roar over your shoulder" ......Gall57 (slightly modified LOL)
P/N 886 on the MAP sensor, so its a 2BAR. I ordered a 3BAR p/n 12223861 & matching pigtail. On a side note, I said screw it and started pulling it apart.
Got some work done tonight. I started the long process of pulling the drivetrain. I have a lead on a new GM crate engine. Now if only I can work out a good price! I also think I am going to send my y-pipe & DP to Fierobsessed and have them remade in stainless. If not I am going to send them and the headers off to get coated inside and out. I also have an idea on how to re-route the chargecooler lines as well as a few other things I want to "fix". Might as well make some improvements while I am in there.
P/N 886 on the MAP sensor, so its a 2BAR. I ordered a 3BAR p/n 12223861 & matching pigtail. On a side note, I said screw it and started pulling it apart.
3bars dont work... and never will work. You can wire it to the EGR or aeroforce and create a custom readout.
i assumed you had a mechanical gauge Luckily I see from the scan it never really got much over 15 judging by fuel flow.
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Whats the problem with the 3bar MAP? As for the EGR pin on the ECU, I was thinking of running the aux output of the LC1 to it so we can datalog it. What do you think?
Whats the problem with the 3bar MAP? As for the EGR pin on the ECU, I was thinking of running the aux output of the LC1 to it so we can datalog it. What do you think?
The 3bar can not be read by the PCM in any way other than raw voltage. You would just be using it as a gauge, the PCM will never read it.
The 3bar can not be read by the PCM in any way other than raw voltage. You would just be using it as a gauge, the PCM will never read it.
Oh, well that blows. I guess there is no re-scaling for it? I really hate multiple gauges, I guess I am going to have to order a boost gauge now as well. Well, atleast I have a use for that 3 gauge panel that goes in the aux location.
Oh, well that blows. I guess there is no re-scaling for it? I really hate multiple gauges, I guess I am going to have to order a boost gauge now as well. Well, atleast I have a use for that 3 gauge panel that goes in the aux location.
you can wire a 3bar to an areoforce or the a/c pressure input on the ecu if you are not using it.
Well....He did actually, he got to feel the rush of a 3800 turbo motor if not for just a little while anyways LOL... I have faith in the man, he is gonna get it sorted here soon. Then he is gonna drive it up here and let me do some boost runs in the bad boy...!! peace
Still no idea on the shipping yet. I hope we can reach a deal on this GM crate motor. I want to get this turkey back up and prowling the streets instead of my garage!
I did do some porting/cleanup on my downpipe. I received a few spings for the BOV & EWG and a MLS gasket for my leaking v-band flange at the turbo to DP surface. I am goign to mail out the headers, y-pipe and DP to get ceramic coated this week.
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I spoke with Jeff in Atlanta. We are talking about the motor in his Bonny. Good thing, he is willing to meet me 1/2 way so it will cost me a tank of gas to get it. I still prefer the new GM crate motor but the cheapest shipping quote has been $440.
I spoke with Jeff in Atlanta. We are talking about the motor in his Bonny. Good thing, he is willing to meet me 1/2 way so it will cost me a tank of gas to get it. I still prefer the new GM crate motor but the cheapest shipping quote has been $440.
Bummer, how does jasper and junkyards manage to do it? I can get a motor from japan for comparitively cheaper than florida I guess.
Bummer, how does jasper and junkyards manage to do it? I can get a motor from japan for comparitively cheaper than florida I guess.
Can you help your friend find a shipping company? Dude, we spoke, you know where I am on this. I dont want to have to do this again anytime soon. Help a brother out!
Nothing new to report. Still trying to find a good deal for shipping. Now we are going to go with business to business shipping method. I had my friend Rob see what he could find for me. Since he is a regional manager for Tuffy, I figured his automotive contacts could find me a good L67 @ trade price. What did he find? A 99k mile 2001 GTP motor, complete, for $1000. No way!!!!
Edit Oh yeah, since I am going to part out Garths old '87GT, I am going to pull the new brake booster off and install it on my 88. This way I can get rid of the S10 booster and get my pedal back to the way it should feel!
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Not sure. I didn't get to drive the car before Dean got his hands on it. It stops fine, but the pedal has a lot of travel and goes to the floor. I have pressure bled the brakes and it helped a bit with feel.
Yeah, the pedal in my car does not go to the floor, it's nice and firm. Can you pump the brake pedal solid with the engine off? Maybe you got a bad brake booster. You're not the first person to complain about a soft pedal after the s10 booster swap.
Luckily I see from the scan it never really got much over 15 judging by fuel flow.
