I put the car on 4 jack stands. Lower the cradle, about 6" on the pass side and rest the cradle on blocks. Remove trans mounts. Put jack under engine. Tip cradle down on drivers side and the trans will pop right off.
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Agree, hope it turns out running as good as it looks. That's a nice car! And speaking of looking back in the past on this build, I hope you don't break this engine in by jumping curbs and doing lawn jobs, lol ! Just thought I would bring that up for the last time.
I put the car on 4 jack stands. Lower the cradle, about 6" on the pass side and rest the cradle on blocks. Remove trans mounts. Put jack under engine. Tip cradle down on drivers side and the trans will pop right off.
Even on an 88 with solid mounted cradle? I was just going to support the engine and swing the cradle down on the front 2 bolts.
Agree, hope it turns out running as good as it looks. That's a nice car! And speaking of looking back in the past on this build, I hope you don't break this engine in by jumping curbs and doing lawn jobs, lol ! Just thought I would bring that up for the last time.
Nothing like full boost burnouts in your OWN front yard!
Took her out for a 30min ride today. WOOHOOO DOGGY she is gonna be fun. I got a few DTCs though. P0102, P0135, P0717. I have to check to see if the tune supports the ZZP fixed MAF doohicky and cheeck my o2 it seems. The VSS one...hmm gotta look into that one.
Nice car, sounds great and its good to see you still here after all these years. Nothing like feeling the excitement of a full throttle run as you pass a 45 MPH speed limit sign!! On rural roads when there is nothing around there shouldn't be any speed limit.
------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Powerlog manifold, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Flotech Afterburner Exhaust, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
Only about 1/2-3/4 throttle. Just shaking it down. Scott and I agreed I shouldnt beat on it quite yet. I need some seat time to fall in love with it again.
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Car is doing great. Though I did find a few issues:
RR caliper is leaking- ordered a new one. Random missfire(s) my MSD wires are junk. Looking for new wires online right now. Battery is dead. Just picked up a new one Alignment is off. She is nervous in the bends Right channel of the stock radio is dead I wired the gauges wrong. They are way too dim during the day. They also stay on if I turn the lights on then off. They wont shut off unless I turn the ign off.
I drove the car about 45min away to the farm. She is DIRTY!!!!!
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I have heat cracked many sets of wires on a 3800sc swap I had with some headers, and i didn't even drive the car that hard.
I swapped over to taylor monster 10.8mm wires I think, they were build your own style and worked great, they might have been 12mm if that is even offered I went with the biggest I could get to help insulate from the heat, and then used the fiberglass heat shields on any place that got really close to the headers. They were weird equal length headers that weren't built with a simple plug wire route in mind.
Good luck on fixing that it shouldn't be too bad, 3800s run a lot better without heat cracked wires
I got a set of Taylor Spiro-Pros. They seem to be working pretty well. I took the car to its first meet tonight. Everyone loved it. What a GREAT night. Man this has been a long time coming. The car is running AWESOME!!!!
I should have built the car in the 1st place, so now I am going to do just that. For those that DO care, its going to be a while before the 88 hits the streets.
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LOL never thought it would take this long. Look at the date posted!!! Anyone in the NW area want to check her out or go for a ride, LMK. ITS AWESOME!!!
To do list: Paint the modded panels Fill the super mega awesome badges Will made for me and make them side marker lights. I'd love advice how to do this! Alignment Have the AC line made and service the AC system. Its getting warm in Fl Get a head unit. The stock one looks awesome (so retro) but the R channel is out Headliner recovered Start wrapping the interior trim in Alcantera One of my LED side marker lights is dying. I need to get this swapped out. I wonder if thast forum member still makes them? I need to get started modding the spare set of damaged GT taillights I have 300 more miles of break-in and then its off to MASE Engineering to get dyno tuned.
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Pic from last night. I took her to its 1st meet. Everyone was really cool and loved the Fiero. 2 guys with NSX's hung out with me and it was such a great night.
Leaking front motor mount replaced and it was a bit of a pig to do. I found my oil filter housing is leaking a bit. I snugged the bolts up, lets hope that has it. I also had to trim off one of the "ears" on the bottom front of the F23 as it was bumping the cradle under load. I also think my serp belt is making contact with itself on the run from the AC comp to the tensioner pulley. I think it is making contact on that run where its REALLY close to the water pump pulley. I may add a simple idler (non-adjustible) to space it out a bit. And the minor tweaks continue.
Pic of how close the belt is:
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Originally posted by BV MotorSports: ... Pic of how close the belt is:
Too bad you can't rotate the entire tensioner about 45 degrees toward the firewall side of the engine. It would shorten up that hugely long span of belt, and also force it away from the WP pulley. It would also buy you some more room between the pulley and the decklid, if that's an issue. (Don't know that it is.) It would also allow more wrap on the alternator pulley. The negative is that there would be a few degrees less wrap on the A/C compressor. Not that either would be an issue. Just a thought.
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200 more miles till I have enough miles on it to feel confident to haul the car to MASE for a dyno tune. The car is running REALLY good. I am half tempted to do some full boost burnouts in my driveway and jump the speed bumps in my neighborhood. LMAO.
I still haven't done anything with the AC lines. I just don't have time but damn its getting hot outside.
This is probably a really dumb question (I don't know that style engine at all, and I don't want to review 47 pages in this thread for a possible answer ), but with that belt wrap... won't the water pump end up being rotated backwards?
This is probably a really dumb question (I don't know that style engine at all, and I don't want to review 47 pages in this thread for a possible answer ), but with that belt wrap... won't the water pump end up being rotated backwards?
Long answer... Any pulley that has the grooved side of the belt riding on it, will rotate in the same direction as the engine. Any pulley that has the flat side of the belt riding on it, will rotate in the opposite direction as the engine. This is by design.
The long span will allow it to flop and strike the WP pulley. To effect Raydar's suggestion of rotating the idler, you can use a belt about 1 inch shorter and it would cause the idler to tilt more, thereby raising the belt away from the WP. With the idler standing almost straight up, I can't see how it has a lot of effect.
Long answer... Any pulley that has the grooved side of the belt riding on it, will rotate in the same direction as the engine. Any pulley that has the flat side of the belt riding on it, will rotate in the opposite direction as the engine. This is by design.
Of course I can't see the water pump pulley well enough to determine whether there are grooves on it or not, but yes, I figured this must be the way this engine/water pump is designed, unlike any engine I've ever worked on... 2.5, 2.8, SBC, BBC, etc.
Thanks.
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The long span will allow it to flop and strike the WP pulley. To effect Raydar's suggestion of rotating the idler, you can use a belt about 1 inch shorter and it would cause the idler to tilt more, thereby raising the belt away from the WP. With the idler standing almost straight up, I can't see how it has a lot of effect.
Hmm, now I need to find my old 88, l67 build thread and see how I did the idler. What you see here is whodumbass' work.
Another way to cheat the belts being to close is just to get a larger pulley for the tensioner, its a little cheeky but it works just fine, I ended up with the largest ribbed pulley they had on my swap and it worked just fine, gave just enough clearance, you will probably have to get a slightly larger belt though.
Just tinkering a bit here and there. I am trying to figure out why whe is leaning out up top. I pulled the vac line off the RRFPR and set it to 50psi with the engine running. Once the vac line is back on, its got about 44psi. Now I need to see if I get 65psi at WOT (1# per 1psi of boost). Other than that, dyno tuning is not that much farther out.
I just picked up an original '82 Mustang hood scoop for the decklid. Hopefully that can help cool off the engine bay a bit. I am waiting on MASE to get back to me when he has an appt available to tune the car. Getting close now!
I slowly tinkering on bits here and there. I have and appt with Mase on the 14th to geet thee car tuned. Mase blocked out the entire day for the Fiero. He is keen to get his hands on it! I am working on the AC lines. Its just way too hot not to have working AC here in Florida. I found a guy that likes a challenge and wants to do the lines. RESULT! I love ppl that like a good challenge. Square peg in a round hole are my kind of ppl. My old boss Gary (of Garys Customs) is going to respray the modded panels in stock red. Once thats all done, all it really needs is a new headliner. I picked upa nice 1.5 din aftermarket HU and got that installed during the week. Still sounds like crap but it works.
Now for the big thing, I am REALLY thinking about selling the car. Why you ask? Because I really want another R32 Skyline GTR. Now that they slip under the 25yr import law, I got to have one. So the Fiero may be on the market very soon.
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), but with that belt wrap... won't the water pump end up being rotated backwards?
