Hi guys I go on this forum many times a day and have recieved loads of help so I think its about time to show you what I've learned . First the car its a 86 SE auto that I picked up for 500 bucks, the interior is great but the body is a lil rough and the drivetrain sucked so I decided to do the swap! I'm only 17 and got all this money from my job as a tech in a Hyundai dealership. Ive been working on this for a year now well I was in highschool, but now I graduated I made some big progress that I hope is build thread material. here ya go... Im doing several things at once to the car since I have it toatlly apart...**Swap 3800sc and 4t65-HD
*Poly Suspension
*Cut Springs
*Shocks/struts
*Interior
*Wheels
*Brake Swap
*Tailight Mods
*Custom Decklid
*HeadLight Mod
*Paint Everything
and other misc..
Here's Pics sorry dont have many "Before Pics"



86 SE has just under 50,000 miles on her


Engine is a 99 GTP, with under 10,000 miles! totaled car

Trans is a 03 with 4,000 miles too!

Grand Am brake swap


Decklid, custom molded in, and has third brake light


new wheels, need to be cleaned up, 18x8.5? Front and rear

Engine out!

Engine bay painted
Thats it for now stay tuned....

[This message has been edited by IanT720 (edited 09-05-2012).]

Just Painted the cradle, then started to burn the bushings!

This one?



http://www.rockauto.com/cat...247600&parttype=4584

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Exhaust - https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...120111-2-112422.html

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What coolant passages?

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Great thanks! Oh you have a PM

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/114722.html

Okay thanks I was just wondering if there where more threads on the hoses

Got a lot done today, I cut a coil off the rear springs and repainted them bright yellow to go with the color my car will eventually be lol, finnaly got those control arms off and poly installed, cleaned and painted the tie rods, painted the grand am rotor hats, and other misc stuff.... I will take lots of pics tomorrow, and will be bolting the engine and trans onto the cradle if all goes well !

Looks great

Keep those pics rolling

Just curious about one thing - how do you plan to open the deck lid?

Thanks and as for the declid it uses hood pins at the moment, but I'm working on a simple hinge to lift it up and rest it on the roof, I will make a quick scetch for you

Just had some time so I got my trans bolted to the cradle

Alright well some of you may have heard but I broke the starter flange off the block from not lineing up the trans correctly I still have not got it welded but it is weldable, Im just spending my money on getting the hubs machined for now so I can at least get the front of the car done . heres what broke....


Anyway progress has been made I just finished cleaning/painting my kyb's and cut springs, they came out beautiful!.....

I also installed the new balljoints and controll arm poly into the cradle and will get shots tommorow, and will hopefully be finnaly done with the rear suspension tommorow also

Nice build! What does the scoop do? I am trying to figure out how you can use that as an intake for the S/C....but can't figure it out.

quote Originally posted by IanT720: Just some questions... Trans lines? Mine didnt come with fittings either? What is the black box by the shifter that wires plug into on the trans, and where can I get one? Do I need to blockoff a coolant passage and how? And what is a good muffler, prefferably a little louder that works with out cutting the trunk routed the way most swaps are? Thanks

I got my trans line fittings from a local LKQ junkyard and hose clamped hose to them. I plan to eventually do a trans cooler in the right rear quarter to eliminate the lines that go all the way to the front.

I have coolant info in my build thread.
I used a 3/4" tap and plugged the small water pump inlet (this is holding up well) This was the heater core return. On 88 Fieros a tee is in the right side coolan tube, but for your 86 you will have to tee it in down there, it looks cleaner. My LIM outlet was tapped to work with a 3/4" NPT brass fitting.. I would figure out a better solution than the pipe tap. I'm not happy with how mine came out. I have a slow leak in my LIM fitting. I would use the LIM outlet to feed your heater core though so the top of the engine gets cooled properly.
Some people use a modified Filler neck at the thermostat for that but I don't see how the heads get cooled properly if you block off the LIM outlet.

I used a Flotech Afterburner and it will fit in the stock location. It sounds very aggressive (loud) at the track which is nice. Im not going for comfort in my build as it is annoying on the high way.

Do you plan on addressing Bump Steer with you lowered springs? I don't know, is this an issue with one coil cut out? I was thinking about doing mine but i'm not sure.

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Project Genisis Lo Budget 3800SC swap

88 Coupe under construction.

quote Originally posted by cam-a-lot: Nice build! What does the scoop do? I am trying to figure out how you can use that as an intake for the S/C....but can't figure it out.

Thanks! It's comming along anyway, so it is an over roof scoop and the best way I figured to do it it would be more of a cold air intake and less of a ram air. I was planing on taking the bottom part of a square airbox and having it sealed in the base of the scoop then use flexible tubing to the throttle body, as for water maybe a J bend (water trap) and I can drain it after trips? That's the best idea I have so far, let me know what you think.

Alright heres a quick pic I snapped of the rear suspenion all done, Cut springs, KYB's, BallJoints, and Full Poly....

I also painted my old plenum and Holly TB to sell to a friend for his firebird, Came out great (PM If sale goes sour)...

quote Originally posted by IanT720: Thanks, and your still using the modified filler neck right?

No. I am using this with a stock L67 thermostat housing. You need to investigate the L67 cooling system more about the LIM outlet so you can make your own decision on how you want to plumb the coolant. The LIM outlet helps cool the heads. I ran it to the heater core and the return is Tee'd into the Passenger side lower coolant tube with one of these. http://www.jagsthatrun.com/...-TBI_Brass-Tees.html

it looks nice. I didn't get to see but are you keeping the same transmission?

quote Originally posted by hercimer01: I assume you're doing a low mount Alternator which would eliminate the bracket and plumbing through it for the heater core. ??

I'm on the fence about a low mount strictly due to budget, and I do plan on researching it a lot more when the time comes, thanks for the advice. And just clarifing if I follow your build thread I do not need a modified T-Stat, but if I do a low mount I have to buy it? thanks -Ian

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So I lied, I had a ton of work to do for my grad party and just gave them to the local machine shop yesterday. Quoted me only 40 bucks for both and will be done by tomorrow (Friday). However I did manage to fix my rims, They are Konig 18x8.5's came with 5 brand new performnce oriented tires 235 rear, 225 front, but the rims themselves were pretty beat up, all had curb rash, lots of corrosion, and one had a slight bend, I fixed em with a dremel and elbow grease and a family friend is fixing the bend for me , I used 320, 400 wetsand, then gunmetal rim paint, and clear. Anyway Im very excited with how they turned out....

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Here is my tailight build thread! https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/124484.html#lastpost

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Alright I so i recieved my hubs back but they were not machined enough so I should be able to grab em tommorow along with the caliper brackets. I also dropped my engine off at the welder to get the starter mount welded back on a 150 dollar mistake that im never going to do again :/. In the meantime I finished my 3rd wheel, The other has to get mounted back on the rim beforeIi want to paint it, here's a pic...

Nice linkin park poster!! Love there earlier stuff..

quote Originally posted by thismanyfieros: Nice linkin park poster!! Love there earlier stuff..

Thanks! Always cool to meet a fan, any yeah me too by far my favorites got to be Meteora.

Great news! I got my starter mount re-welded back on my block, a 150 dollar mistake I will never do again, I went to Alexander Welding in Milan MI, He's a great guy and has experience welding blocks. Here's a pic...

Lots of progress today! I got my machined caliper brackets back, they fit nice. I figured out why my torque converter wasnt seating but then got fixed that. I succesfully mated my engine and trans without the weld breaking! And I got my engine/trans mounts on from fiero X and did a test fit on the frame before I need them drilled! (nothing is level btw)