NO FOOLIN!! i love this car and was about to post it!! but you already did in 2004!! this seems fair game or is this cross posting? do i care?? not really cuz that Plazma is friggin sweet in that blue!! kinda freeky tho.....
in my color too!!! these are from a sales add so they are game too.....no??
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This thread is titled PFF Kit Car Registry, Curly posted pictures of cars with the Mad arch wide-body kit on them in this thread. To me this says he thinks cars with the wide-body kit should be considered Kit Cars. His car has a wide-body kit on it......it's just tweaked a little more. I think this thread was made to showcase Kit Cars and Rebody Replicas that members have. To me that means cars built to look like another car, not custom Fieros with Mad-arch kits.
Maybe the OP should clarify who is allowed to post in this thread and what his definition of a kit is. If your car has to be a replica maybe you guys should rename this thread to PFF Replica Registry, this way guys with kit cars can start a kit car registry........ Doesn't this all sound silly! Am I allowed to post pics of my IMSA kit car it is a replica of a IMSA fiero just tweaked. What about my wife's Enterra ?
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Ferrari 308 replica. I am rebuilding this one and changing up the front hood to look closer to oem as well as added in side air scoops, extended windshield. It is now in primer and my painter is in the process of high build sanding the removable parts and will be starting on the remaining car later in January. I also just got my interior done and it turned out very nicely.
Pics of the 308:
308 Interior
Other replica, in progress is a Ferrari 355 replica. I have been working/not working on this one for way too many years. I needed to take a break from it and started the 308 build above. Once 308 is done, I will be going back to finish this one off. Panels were terrible when I got them and have pretty much cut and reshaped everything and made a number of new panels as the old ones just didn't work.
I also have a Lamborghini Countach body but I am not sure if it will be put on a redone Fiero frame like motoracer838 did or on a custom frame so won't add it here yet.
Maybe the OP should clarify who is allowed to post in this thread and what his definition of a kit is. If your car has to be a replica maybe you guys should rename this thread to PFF Replica Registry, this way guys with kit cars can start a kit car registry........ Doesn't this all sound silly! Am I allowed to post pics of my IMSA kit car it is a replica of a IMSA fiero just tweaked. What about my wife's Enterra ?
This will my last post in the thread as I am not looking to be negative. The OP said he was looking for Fiero based kit car and replicas........I don't fell putting a Mad Arch kit on a Fiero makes it a kit car. I guess you could call it a original design re-body like I would call your wife's car. Your car could also be in this thread as it is a Replica re-body of the IMSA Fiero. To me kit cars have titles that say something other than Fiero on them, if your car is still titled as a Fiero but has a body kit that looks like something else, either a replica or original design it's a Fiero re-body. If any of the cars Curly showed were placed in a Fiero show I'm pretty sure they would be classed as custom or modifed Fieros not kit or rebody. I have seen IMSA replicas placed in both rebody and custom classes...depends on the show.
People that know me, know that I never post in Color, but I Had to this time.
This thread is a Candy Store, I love it.
It reminds me of why I was so attracted to the Fiero in the first place.
Archie
Thats funny! ME TOO! This is the sole reason I was attracted to them. My dad and I looked at this as a father son project. He passed way before it was even possible, but we looked at a bunch of them. LOL
This will my last post in the thread as I am not looking to be negative. The OP said he was looking for Fiero based kit car and replicas........I don't fell putting a Mad Arch kit on a Fiero makes it a kit car. I guess you could call it a original design re-body like I would call your wife's car. Your car could also be in this thread as it is a Replica re-body of the IMSA Fiero. To me kit cars have titles that say something other than Fiero on them, if your car is still titled as a Fiero but has a body kit that looks like something else, either a replica or original design it's a Fiero re-body. If any of the cars Curly showed were placed in a Fiero show I'm pretty sure they would be classed as custom or modifed Fieros not kit or rebody. I have seen IMSA replicas placed in both rebody and custom classes...depends on the show.
355Fiero: What kit did you start with for your 308? What kind of reinforcement did you use under the passenger tub before cutting out the targa? Really like the hood mod and your interior looks great as well. Is it one of Amida's interiors, or scratch built, or some other supplier? Car looks great to me so far, looking forward to pics of the finished product.
Hoping Doc John shows up for this thread sooner or later.
Really hope we can stay on track in this thread, be a shame to gum it all up with personal politics! JMHO
Also enjoying seeing everybody's pics of kits! Keep em' comin'!
The kit was already mounted to the car many years ago. It was a run down mera splash/clone is my guess. The interior is a PISA Euro interior with a couple extra parts added to it. The dash and centre console were reconfigured quite a bit to fit my car and tastes.
Reinforcing is the common way of 2x2 thick square tube under the cooling tube tracks and reinforcing going up b pillar and front dash area. No movement so far.
YellowArtero: LOL! 355Fiero: Thanks for the response, just curious if you knew what body your car started with. Basically wondering if it was a Fejer kit, being that you are basically also in Canada. As I said before, looking forward to seeing the finished project, but I do realize how long these things can take, and it's not like any of us can work on them full time. Your 355 looks like it will also be a beauty when finished. But they are all a "labor of love", yes?
diabloroadster: hard to imagine that was ever a Fiero! Looks fantastic to me. Did you put it together yourself? If so, how long did it take you? Must be a great feeling to take it out and enjoy driving it as well as looking at it.
These cars, TO ME, are "car art" as well as machines with a purpose. Even though those who have them haven't spent more than a fraction of what a "real" one costs, I can't help but believe, they get most of the feeling that a "real" one would provide.
The design, the form is part of what they are, even if the mechanics are not absolutly "state of the art". JMHO
I like a nice tricked out Fiero too, but that, TO ME, is a different animal. A sheep in wolves clothing...maybe, but who cares if you're having a good time!
I have a Scorpion.Mine is the one in the background, not the ferrari. I just bought it this summer, not running of course. I am in the process of swapping a 3800 NA.It has a custom interior,digital dash and was an 88 gt automatic. I am converting to a 4 speed. second pic is in the shop. I hope to drive it this spring.
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I have been asked as the originator of the thread as to decide what is or is not a kit car. I turned to wikipedia which states...
A kit car, also known as a "component car", is an automobile that is available as a set of parts that a manufacturer sells and the buyer then either assembles into a car themselves, or retains a third party to do part or all of the work on their behalf. Usually, many of the major mechanical systems such as the engine and transmission are sourced from donor vehicles or purchased from other vendors new. Kits vary in completeness ranging from as little as a book of plans to a complete set with all components included.
There is a sub-set of kit cars, commonly referred to as a "re-body" in which a commercially manufactured vehicle has a new (often fiberglass) body put on the running chassis. Most times, the existing drive gear and interior are retained. These kits require less technical knowledge from the builder and as the chassis and mechanical systems were designed, built and tested by a major automotive manufacturer can also lead to a much higher degree of safety and reliability.
The definition of a kit car usually indicates that a manufacturer constructs multiple kits of the same vehicle which they then in turn sell. This should not be confused with 'hand built cars' or 'Special' cars, which are typically built from scratch by an individual.
As I have stated I started this thread to to see what is type of cars are represented in this forum. For us to share pics and stories about the cars. I will not participate in a debate as to which car is or is not a kit car. I am not here to criticize or judge anyone's car or idea of what truly is a kit car. I hope this thread can showcase the vehicles and not turn into a platform for anyone's personal agenda.
The definition of a kit car usually indicates that a manufacturer constructs multiple kits of the same vehicle which they then in turn sell. This should not be confused with 'hand built cars' or 'Special' cars, which are typically built from scratch by an individual. what truly is a kit car. I hope this thread can showcase the vehicles and not turn into a platform for anyone's personal agenda.
THANK YOU SIR.
Now without future ado a closer look at a Madarch widebody notch back "kit"
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I hate to say it but body kits like ricer boys put on their cars all ground effects and big wings doesn't make a "kit car". I have no problem with body enhancement kits, but there are a lot of us who do not consider them to be kit cars. I consider a mad arch wide body kit to be way way above the ricer kits I've seen, but they are not kit cars in my opinion. If that is not what this thread is about, some of us are disappointed. Your thread Bomaze so you have every right to stipulate whatever you want. Maybe there is room for a third thread and then the kit car magazine thread could die and those who want it one way or the other could post in the thread of their choice. Although mad curl has never attacked my car personally as far as I know, I could do without his attitude. I personally would love a kit car/replica thread without all the criticism of other peoples builds. Just appreciation of something that we have in common and enjoy. I would promise to stay out of mad curls build threads although I would look at them. I like what he does. It's his attitude that drives me nuts. Someone stand up the plate and start a thread on Fiero kit car /replicas and nothing else . We won't criticize your cars if you won't criticize ours. I have a foot in all camps. Two Fieros and two replicas. One replica with badges and one without. I don't want to be criticized for the cars that I like, and I won't criticize other peoples cars. Constructive advice sure, and you can take it or leave it as just my opinion, but no criticism.
That's a real nice car you posted while I was typing my post mad curl. Looks really good! Your car is great too Max. There should be a thread where you can show them and we can appreciate them and nobody gets on anyone elses case. Maybe it should be this thread. I consider them to be very well done both in design and execution but they are not replicas of any thing. They are enhancements of Fieros. Although most "kit cars" are replicas, not all are. I do think though that there is a distinction between a kit car and a partially modified car. That's not bad. It's just a difference. It's also just my opinion.
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I have been asked as the originator of the thread as to decide what is or is not a kit car. I turned to wikipedia which states...
A kit car, also known as a "component car", is an automobile that is available as a set of parts that a manufacturer sells and the buyer then either assembles into a car themselves, or retains a third party to do part or all of the work on their behalf. Usually, many of the major mechanical systems such as the engine and transmission are sourced from donor vehicles or purchased from other vendors new. Kits vary in completeness ranging from as little as a book of plans to a complete set with all components included.
There is a sub-set of kit cars, commonly referred to as a "re-body" in which a commercially manufactured vehicle has a new (often fiberglass) body put on the running chassis. Most times, the existing drive gear and interior are retained. These kits require less technical knowledge from the builder and as the chassis and mechanical systems were designed, built and tested by a major automotive manufacturer can also lead to a much higher degree of safety and reliability.
The definition of a kit car usually indicates that a manufacturer constructs multiple kits of the same vehicle which they then in turn sell. This should not be confused with 'hand built cars' or 'Special' cars, which are typically built from scratch by an individual.
As I have stated I started this thread to to see what is type of cars are represented in this forum. For us to share pics and stories about the cars. I will not participate in a debate as to which car is or is not a kit car. I am not here to criticize or judge anyone's car or idea of what truly is a kit car. I hope this thread can showcase the vehicles and not turn into a platform for anyone's personal agenda.
It's nice to have some definative definition of a 'kit car' but Wikipedia is not a recognized source by any refutable educational institution as the information has very low validation criteria. Therefore it is only used as 'rough' information that may or may not stand the scrutiny recognized publications must follow. Cite it in a article and it will be disregarded by teachers, professor and publishers. Sorry.
Here's one of the nicest "kits" ever made for the public , the IMSA widebody "kit." It too shares the same requirments as the ZR2 and the MadArch wide body "kit."
I tried but i can be silent no more, I agree with most of the other posters here. Angry Curl, GO AWAY!!!! your cars are AWESOME but they are not "kit cars". Just because you put quotes around the word "kit" when referring to your products does not mean that they are "kit cars". They are modified Fieros. Start your own thread and call it the "Modified Fieros Registry" or the "Angry Curl "kit" Cars Registry" or go back to the other thread and continue your mental reign there, but please leave this thread in peace.
And here, pay attention to the 2nd page for more interior pictures! Mind you, we've changed the steering wheel and the dash color from blue to silver, plus added a cool light up blue ball for the gear shift knob....Changed the rims over to the Beretta type that are on my car, and eventually Max will get around to painting Sno'ball after the body work is done... which I doubt will be before the 30th show in Indy...
We have a local guy who has done several sun visors for us in fabric, and we got the blue/silver & black leather from Mr. Mike when we got the seats and had the local guy sew them together for us onto the black leather after deciding the best placement with the arm rests and such.
Let me see if I have a nicer picture of Max's ZR2
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Madcurl you spent all this time in the KIT CAR thread fighting that the mad-arch body is not a kit car, just a modified fiero.
Now you ruin this thread fighting to say the mad-arch IS a kit car.
Madcurl wtf is wrong with you? Are you so childish you must pick on everyone that isn't doing the same thing you are? You should put on your superhero cape and fly away from PFF. Go start your own forum for choptops. Then you and yourself can discuss all the newest car features you saw at the auto show that you now want Archie to fit on your car. (What you call "design")
Madcurl you spent all this time in the KIT CAR thread fighting that the mad-arch body is not a kit car, just a modified fiero.
Now you ruin this thread fighting to say the mad-arch IS a kit car.
Madcurl wtf is wrong with you? Are you so childish you must pick on everyone that isn't doing the same thing you are? You should put on your superhero cape and fly away from PFF. Go start your own forum for choptops. Then you and yourself can discuss all the newest car features you saw at the auto show that you now want Archie to fit on your car. (What you call "design")
This. It is just sad that he is able to ruin all these threads with the "MadArch" kits. While I love his car, I really think that it out does the man. Several hundred pics of the same car bumped over and over agin gets old.
And this. V Look! Another picture of a "kit". Maybe you should "tweek" that kit. It would really "pop". Moron that later...
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#015 V8Archie Choptop using the MadArch widebody "kit." The car isn't a custom one off car like it's cousin #020 (more detail about #020 later), but the "kit" consist of a front fender, rocker, door caps, and matching rear bumper. The front nose is offered as a "kit" that matches the MadArch wide body "Kit" by Dan and JimmyS in FL. I'm not 100% sure it will remain as-is, but who knows, but for now I will enjoy the moment as a "kit." I spoken to Archie and it looks like #015 will be headed to his shop in JAN 2013! ------------------
"Friends don't let their friends drive stock."
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This. It is just sad that he is able to ruin all these threads with the "MadArch" kits. While I love his car, I really think that it out does the man. 
