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Chop top widebody mera project. by Custom2M4
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Originally posted by steve308:

I’d be very careful about advertising the reproduction of “308-328” kits. Why invite the legal staff of Ferrari to your door. Perhaps if you were producing” Mera Modification Kits” without any mention or use of 308 /328 that are tied to the Ferrari group there would be less chance of legal problems. Let’s face it, that’s why those molds have not seen the light of day for so long.


I was working on the Mera

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Ding ding ding. This is why I called it a Choptop widebody Mera Project, not the Choptop Widebody 328 FerrarE project

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Just learning GIMP..

Here is a modified version of EVMRob's Mera rebody. The roof is angled back, extended windshield, integrated bumpers, and new wheels.



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Just learning GIMP..

Here is a modified version of EVMRob's Mera rebody. The roof is angled back, extended windshield, integrated bumpers, and new wheels.



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Nice job on the photo chop I use GIMP if you have any questions with how to use GIMP I may be able to help just PM me

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Originally posted by steve308:

I’d be very careful about advertising the reproduction of “308-328” kits. Why invite the legal staff of Ferrari to your door. Perhaps if you were producing” Mera Modification Kits” without any mention or use of 308 /328 that are tied to the Ferrari group there would be less chance of legal problems. Let’s face it, that’s why those molds have not seen the light of day for so long.


Indeed!! heavy on the Mera "Modification" side too.
i would like to perserve the Mera collector Market so i/we in the Mera community would not like to see spot on 'Mera" reproductions
and the Wide body covers that, nicely. i only want to keep the Fiero Mera in its special spot in Pontiac history i do love 'em
1987-Mera X ----------------------------1986#6001 ProtoType--------------------------- Mera #8086

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In due time...




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That's the Koenig Widebody for the Ferrari 308.
There was one on Barret-Jackson:

http://www.barrett-jackson....s.aspx?ln=632&aid=45

The shop that built the one pictured:

http://www.stancenation.com...99s-ferrari-308-gto/

More photos:

http://www.garaget.org/?car=79986

Here's one that may still be for sale:

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C161047
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One more with ground effects...



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I was working on the Mera





Dude, you got skills.
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Dude, you got skills.


Thanks man after doing this one I want one now

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How much of the rear window shows above the decklid on a stock Mera? On my Stinger kit there's only 5-1/2", so if it's similar on the Mera, then dropping the roof 2" to 3" might look great from the side view, but I wonder what a 2-1/2" tall rear window would look like.
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I own a 308 (bought without engine/trans and not on the road yet), and it has a much lower roofline than a Fiero, to the extent that I'm going to have to put significant effort into the seat just to be able to drive it.

A chopped Mera might look almost right next to a real 308.
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i like the way a chopped fiero looks, but i like the 308 and mera just fine stock. just my .02
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I should get serious about making reproduction Mera tail lights.



evm_rob already makes new f308/mera style taillights, i think he charges something like 400.00 a set, basically 100.00 a light. you might pm him rod to make sure tho as i have never bought anything from him. it appears he does very nice work tho.
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Originally posted by Bloozberry:

How much of the rear window shows above the decklid on a stock Mera? On my Stinger kit there's only 5-1/2", so if it's similar on the Mera, then dropping the roof 2" to 3" might look great from the side view, but I wonder what a 2-1/2" tall rear window would look like.


Thanks for the info on that this is about how much window would be left without modifying the decklid.



and a little more red


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I own a 308 (bought without engine/trans and not on the road yet), and it has a much lower roofline than a Fiero.


That depends on what you consider a "much lower". If you're talking about the distance from the black belt line to the top of the roof, then yes, there's a noticeable difference in height, especially in the door glass. On the other hand, if you mean the overall height of the car, then there's less than a one inch difference in the height of the 308 (44.0" (1120mm)) and a 2" lowered Fiero which is 44.9" tall. Considering these are two different platforms, they're pretty darn close, nevertheless I agree that a mild roof lowering would benefit the appearance of the Mera and Stinger bodies in the side view.

On the other hand, I have a friend with a 308 GTSi and while his car is sleeker from the side view, it's also narrower overall by 3" in the front and rear views. Compared side by each, I find the rebody looks more muscular and lower than the stock bodied real car from these views because it's noticeably wider. That obviously changes when you start adding the extra width like the wide-bodied cars above.

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One more with ground effects...



Bob


I really like the ground effects on that one ! Did you chop it an inch I think you did but it's hard to tell from that distance?

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Originally posted by Bloozberry:

That depends on what you consider a "much lower". If you're talking about the distance from the black belt line to the top of the roof, then yes, there's a noticeable difference in height, especially in the door glass. On the other hand, if you mean the overall height of the car, then there's less than a one inch difference in the height of the 308 (44.0" (1120mm)) and a 2" lowered Fiero which is 44.9" tall. Considering these are two different platforms, they're pretty darn close, nevertheless I agree that a mild roof lowering would benefit the appearance of the Mera and Stinger bodies in the side view.

On the other hand, I have a friend with a 308 GTSi and while his car is sleeker from the side view, it's also narrower overall by 3" in the front and rear views. Compared side by each, I find the rebody looks more muscular and lower than the stock bodied real car from these views because it's noticeably wider. That obviously changes when you start adding the extra width like the wide-bodied cars above.


I mean that I just barely fit in the Fiero with the stock seats (<1" headroom to the sunroof) and I lack 1-2" of headroom in the 308GTS with the stock seat. At stock ride height, the 308 doesn't have particularly slim ground clearance.

So from what you said, a Fiero lowered 2" still doesn't have quite as low a roof line as a 308.

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GM needs to start making this car!! Love it!



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I'm really surprising myself here. I can't believe that I'm thinking this car is better than the original 308, but I do. I still wouldn't alter a real Ferrari. How fortunate that we have the Mera which can be altered further to make such a beautiful car.
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we once knew of a rotted Fiero, with OEM Mera in HI.
wonder if its still there. the car rotted away around the panels from the sea salt and neglect.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...0219-1-067236-2.html

i got this too as a side step to the main topic unreal. for sale on ebay at one time




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I really like the ground effects on that one ! Did you chop it an inch I think you did but it's hard to tell from that distance?



Thanx...Yes, I lowered the back of the roof about an inch, but left the glass the same height. I was looking to tear-drop the back, more like the 308. I wish I had a better picture from Rob, but that's the best I had.
Anyway, It's kind of what I want to do when I get my re-body.

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i got this too as a side step to the main topic unreal. for sale on ebay at one time

EH??!!





https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...070315-2-078407.html

The strut tower tops in the above pics are my work. Vastly improved the suspension performance compared to the original hack job.
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Does anyone have a side mera picture without the deck lid or with the deck lid up? I'm curious what it looks like with the hips removed.
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the mera with the rear decklid removed from the side view wont change the look of the car. on a 308 or stinger yes, but not on a mera.
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Seriously, you know it's a problem when people start using rear Ferrari or 1/20 scale Ferrari in a thread were no Mera's are posted. Major failure right there.



Says the guy with the C6 headlights....
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the mera with the rear decklid removed from the side view wont change the look of the car. on a 308 or stinger yes, but not on a mera.



^^agreed!^^
the "tri-angles" if thats what you refer to as the "Hips" are a seperate peice, but i think its glued on the roof something major.
so that would be something someone would only know/see if they were to do a whole Mera restoration

which i have someone in mind....wonder if they love taking pictures as much as i do
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i like my mera much better than the fcar it represents. i dont care that its not an exact spot on replica. i can customize it into what i want and it does not cost me a fortune. 1987 pontiac mera, gm 2010 5.3 L33 HO aluminum ls v8, f23 fy1 2010 cobalt trans, cradle out of car currently for custom mounts all around. custom afco adjustable billet coilovers on all fours, fcar f430 19" wheels and tires, fcar f430/f355 4 piston brembos on all fours, still needs lotsa bodywork. only rough in done. interior is immaculate, low miles car. under 60k miles if i remember right, have to go look to be exact. i had big big plans in the beginning, but now just want it to run/drive and be simple... also took the sunroof roof clip off and made it a solid roof, so know its gtb like. also eliminated the mera gts style sail panels and am re engineering a lexan window to represent the similar of the gtb sail glass. also made the headlight covers more fcar like. prior owner had already installed new fcar badging all around, prior owner also installed a new fcar leather interior just before i got her, so on...i have subie sti 13" rotors all around on all fours too, crossdrilled with stainless brake hoses for the brembos. subie rotors have the same bolt pattern and very close hat height, works well with the brembos from the fcar. but who cares, build what you want and have fun. less than 5grand in her currently too isnt too bad.

danno, restoration hah...lol more like resurection/rebuild. if it wasnt a documented mera i would not have saved her.
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Got any pictures of your car LeeLizard?

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Custom, i apologize but i dont post pics too often. it gets "others" ppl curiousity up on some of my other projects in the background noise of the pics. i have more hobbies than i care to share details about. batouisai has most of my pics as he and i are friends. if he chooses to share with you privately that is fine. i just dont post many up to the forum for personal reasons. and yes to those that say well no pics means no car, whatever i dont care. lol been in the mera world too long to make this stuff up. i can tell you more details about how a mera is built more than anyone else, period. unless you find a corporate concepts employee themselves. but plz custom dont take offense to it at all. i have shared pics before here and it just burns me in the end. i will tell you my mera was crashed beyond belief and held together structurally very well. it was flipped upside down and went down an embankment on its roof. so its a total rebuild of the skin basically. some suspension was hurt, gas tank was punctured, so on. it is now and has been on the back burner for awhile as i lost interest in it a while back. wont sell it, but other hobbies/projects have taken the fore front lately.
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custom i will tell you the pic of the 1/20 scale model you posted has been on my computer for 4 or so yrs and is the vision of my car.
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Keepin' it fresh..



This is really the style I want to build, with some of the previous images thrown in...

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Doing some playing, using Rodney's Mera.



added rear qtr window:



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Keepin' it fresh..



This is really the style I want to build, with some of the previous images thrown in...

Bob



WOW! Any more shots of that, or is it a photoshop??
Very cool!

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Well... that's a 288 GTO with Cali license plate, and that pit lane is the pit garage at the Fuji Circuit in Japan.

So something is shopped somewhere
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JUST FOR FUN:


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WOW! Any more shots of that, or is it a photoshop??
Very cool!


I would imagine it's a 3d model, but I don't know for sure. I just found it online...

edit...

Here's a red version:


This may be the original, so I'm going Photoshop instead of model...


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Chopped MERA with GFX.



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Here is a car that I dreamed of from the 80s. Koenig Competition.

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Anybody have any idea whatever happened to/with this car? Just curious yaknow Did the owner ever do an engine swap? If so, what did he end up putting in? Is it on the road today?

For 308 lovers, this, IMO, is the best of both worlds: Ferrari styling with American power.

TIA for any info anybody has.

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Originally posted by 007DOUG:

Sage and I (along with my father) traveled in October to bring back kitcar moulds.The moulds were abandoned

These moulds produce kitcar bodies that appear to some folks to as 308 and 328 body lines. To our pleasant surprise there was an interior mould and this add-on widebody kit that appears to have the body lines of the car show in pictures above.

Blueprint of the finished kitcar with widebody kit.

and the real deal


In the distant future Fiero Warehouse will offer the 308, 328, and add-on widebody kit. All the parts we produce from these moulds (including the widebody parts) should also fit the Mera.

As the title of this thread ask "Choptop widebody mera"? We can cover the mera and widebody. The choptop will be upto V8Archie .First Sage and I must figure out these moulds,then clean/repair, then build a kit for ourselves


All I can say is WOW. I don't like the front end, but I love the back end! I would love to see that rear end with a Fiero aero front end... With the wide front fenders...

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-Brian

My 87 GT Poly Suspension Upgrade (all pics) thread
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