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Fake 84 GT for sale by 92wastheyear
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I was just doing my daily Fiero hunt on Craigslist and found this "84 Fiero GT". I suspect this began life as an 84 and then was turned into a "GT" (the gauges are for a 4 cyl car).
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I can see parts from an 85 GT as well. I like the shift knob/boot. The gauges are for an 85 SE/GT or 86 SE

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Originally posted by Dburger:

I can see parts from an 85 GT as well. I like the shift knob/boot. The gauges are for an 85 SE/GT or 86 SE



And no Fastback until 86, right?

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Originally posted by 92wastheyear:


And no Fastback until 86, right?


It's got smooth moldings so I think the fastback panels were taken from an 87 or 88.
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It's got smooth moldings so I think the fastback panels were taken from an 87 or 88.


I think this car may have been built by Johnny Cash
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It's having an identity crisis
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I think this car may have been built by Johnny Cash


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Carfax says it's an 85 GT.
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No fastback in 84 or even 85...........................................
Shouldn't it have a 4 cylinder?
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I can tell buy the seats and interior it's an 85GT that had someone put a fastback clip on. Nice car!
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It's got smooth moldings so I think the fastback panels were taken from an 87 or 88.


the 86 gt's had the smooth molding also.
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One of the funnier bits is his touting of the low miles.....he mashed 2 or 3 cars together and expects people to trust the odometer reading on the non GT gauge
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Originally posted by 92wastheyear:

One of the funnier bits is his touting of the low miles.....he mashed 2 or 3 cars together and expects people to trust the odometer reading on the non GT gauge


those are probably the stock gauges since it's an 85 GT.

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No fastback in 84 or even 85...........................................
Shouldn't it have a 4 cylinder?


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Originally posted by chorcob:

No fastback in 84 or even 85...........................................
Shouldn't it have a 4 cylinder?


Well....it could have a V-6 in 85 I think.....but not a fastback w/V-6

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those are probably the stock gauges since it's an 85 GT.



BUT IT IS AN 84!! TRUST ME!!!

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BUT IT IS AN 84!! TRUST ME!!!


It's an 85...because carfax.
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Do you think he just screwed the front tag into the bumper?
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Do you think he just screwed the front tag into the bumper?


Yup.
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if its all original its an 86.... look at the plenum
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Originally posted by pontiackid86:

if its all original its an 86.... look at the plenum


It's not an 86. 86 GT would have had 120 MPH speedo. It's an 85 GT with a fastback swap.
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It's not an 86. 86 GT would have had 120 MPH speedo. It's an 85 GT with a fastback swap.


Being touted as an 84...smh

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yup, looks like 85 GT with replacement body panels.

Not sure why the owner is calling it an 84, but I guess he found the manufacturer's date and went by that? Who knows.... it isn't a stock fastback nor is it an '84.
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The add says all original interior.

Its an 85 GT with a fastback swap. Only way to tell is the VIN.

Please tell me why you say its an 86 by looking at the plenum?
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I told my wife (who knows very little about Fieros) to look at this 84 GT on craigslist.

She looked at me and said; "The didn't make a GT in 84."

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Originally posted by Dotrenrew:

I told my wife (who knows very little about Fieros) to look at this 84 GT on craigslist.

She looked at me and said; "The didn't make a GT in 84."

She's all mine.



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Originally posted by olejoedad:
Please tell me why you say its an 86 by looking at the plenum?


I believe the plenum on an 87 or 88 would be engraved. An 85 would be a notchie. Assuming it wasn't converted, that narrows it to 86.

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You need the vin to check year. There was no 84 GT period. 85 GT did not have a fastback. Pretty sure that nose wasnt available till 86. Also no V6 till 85 that I know of. In this case 'basicly brand new' depends on when he put all the parts together. Its definately not a factory car...its put together from several cars. Rare? not, there are 10s of thousands running around...theres thousands right here in this forum.
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no speakers in the sail panels..... this has a pre-86 interior, so I am going to say there was a body swap on an '85 GT (or SE... but probably GT, as the exhaust wouldn't have the trumpets on an SE).
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

Pretty sure that nose wasnt available till 86..


Didn't they use that nose on the 84 Indy?

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Looks like it does 10 mph standing still.
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Originally posted by 92wastheyear:


Didn't they use that nose on the 84 Indy?


The Indy, all GTs, and '86 SE models...

 
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Looks like it does 10 mph standing still.


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The round molding nose was only used on the 86-88 GT.
The ribbed molding nose was used on the Indy, 85 GT, and 86-87 SE.
They appear the same, but they are different in the area of the side marker lights.
The 85 SE was a bumperpad only.
The 85-86 V-6 was the same upper plenum with decal.
The 86-88 GT's had 120 mph speedos.

Did I miss any of the other misinformation on this thread?

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Originally posted by no2pencil:


I believe the plenum on an 87 or 88 would be engraved. An 85 would be a notchie. Assuming it wasn't converted, that narrows it to 86.



Big assumption on the no-conversion.

My money says that it's an 85GT with a fastback conversion. Simplest answer to all the evidence.

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The interior is pretty nice, I'd have that. Rest of the car looks like the bastard son of god knows how many other Fieros.
Bet the a/c don't work though (look at 5th pic) LOL!

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Could've even passed it off as an 88 to someone that doesn't have a lot of knowledge
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Didn't they also decide to discontinue the rear defrost?
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The base car for all this parts-swapping is definitely either a 1984 or 1985. In 1986 and up, they switched to the whole-gallon wiper wash bottle, rather than the half-gallon size here.

It was likely a 4 cylinder car to start. The 4 cylinder cars have gauge cluster indicator lamps have the orange logos printed on the lens, instead of having the colored transparent film with the logos on them (i.e. you can always see the logos on a 4 cyl gauge cluser, whereas the V6 ones have to be illuminated to see the icons).

My guess is the base car is a 1985 4 cylinder. 1984's would have had black switches for all the electronics inside, whereas this has the correct 1985+ grey.
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Originally posted by ManMadeChickens:

The base car for all this parts-swapping is definitely either a 1984 or 1985. In 1986 and up, they switched to the whole-gallon wiper wash bottle, rather than the half-gallon size here.

It was likely a 4 cylinder car to start. The 4 cylinder cars have gauge cluster indicator lamps have the orange logos printed on the lens, instead of having the colored transparent film with the logos on them (i.e. you can always see the logos on a 4 cyl gauge cluser, whereas the V6 ones have to be illuminated to see the icons).

My guess is the base car is a 1985 4 cylinder. 1984's would have had black switches for all the electronics inside, whereas this has the correct 1985+ grey.


I believe its a 1985 GT as the VIN suggests. I never trust the cluster, they could have replaced it. The carfax probably shows a mileage issue. Unfortunately, this Fiero is a victim of the owner not knowing what they have.
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Didn't they also decide to discontinue the rear defrost?


Rear defrost is pretty uncommon. It appears this one has it. My 87 GT had it.
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