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Y'up, another one bites the dust. It seams to me that Ferrari and Lamborghini lose a car or two every year, but I don't ever hear from the "ignorant as hell" types, "Isn't that the car that had all the engine fires?"

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Well, when one buys a car for that many zeros, a little censorship in the stupid comment section of the peanut crowd is included.

quote Originally posted by no2pencil: Well, when one buys a car for that many zeros, a little censorship in the stupid comment section of the peanut crowd is included.

Yeah, I here what you are saying and I guess when you put it that way... I just want one year (with me in the country driving my Fiero) with no stupid engine fire comments. This gave me an idea though. I think I'm going to search through the web and print out every article I can find on exotic European sports cars catching fire, put them in a binder and put the binder in my car. Then when the seemingly inevitable happens pull out said binder and hand it to the offending party and say, "y'up, just like those European cars"...

Don't argue with idiots because they will drag you down to their level & beat you with experience.

I just as soon don't bother taking my time to educate everyone. If they want to think they all burned, great. I'm not trying to sell it to them, & I'm not asking for their approval.

quote Originally posted by no2pencil: Don't argue with idiots because they will drag you down to their level & beat you with experience. I just as soon don't bother taking my time to educate everyone. If they want to think they all burned, great. I'm not trying to sell it to them, & I'm not asking for their approval.

Yeah, I know you are right. The wise course of action is always to ignore them. But, sometimes I just want to...

The last time I had some idiot telling me about all the fieros that burnt up I told him, yea I know,this car I have I had to rebuild 4 times due to fires.The moron believed me! He's probably still running around telling this fictional story.

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porshe recently issued a recall on all 900 or so 911gt3-2.1 mark5 whatever it is they are on for possible engine fires, they replaced every single engine, because 1 of 900 or so may have had an issue, guess those zeroes are good for something

quote Originally posted by no2pencil: Don't argue with idiots because they will drag you down to their level & beat you with experience. I just as soon don't bother taking my time to educate everyone. If they want to think they all burned, great. I'm not trying to sell it to them, & I'm not asking for their approval.

Getting beat-down by idiot experience is real. Sometimes all you can do is look at them in amazement. Educating them IS an exercise in futility. Just agree with them and tell them that yours is the only one that is left. Then walk away.

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quote Originally posted by fierofinatic84se: porshe recently issued a recall on all 900 or so 911gt3-2.1 mark5 whatever it is they are on for possible engine fires, they replaced every single engine, because 1 of 900 or so may have had an issue, guess those zeroes are good for something

Normally, I would concede you make a good point on this one. However, GM is currently recalling, what's the count up to now? 3 million plus vehicles? And those vehicles don't have all of those zero's in the price tag. I think this is a German company ran by Germans doing what they do no matter how many zero's are involved in cost. I lived in Germany for seven years and I figured out why they make good cars and it is NOT superior engineering. It's the nit-noid attention to detail stuff in the assembly process. I have been all over this planet and have never seen an entire culture of people so fixated on attention to detail and uniformity. They take it to OCD levels and once they settle on a "standard" for doing something, that is how it's done: PERIOD. (And that is not a liberal politician period either

Ok so seriously are fieros a fire hazard as compared to say the same year model firebird ?? Don't get me wrong even if they are in going to keep my new found fiero. But do they have common fire issues. I know a guy who had 2 and both caught fire. So don't get upset or anything. I'd just like an honest answer from all you dedicated fiero lovers with more knowledge than my apprentiance ship of these fantastic cars

quote Originally posted by Vesquar: Ok so seriously are fieros a fire hazard as compared to say the same year model firebird ?? Don't get me wrong even if they are in going to keep my new found fiero. But do they have common fire issues. I know a guy who had 2 and both caught fire. So don't get upset or anything. I'd just like an honest answer from all you dedicated fiero lovers with more knowledge than my apprentiance ship of these fantastic cars

Only the 84 year fieros had the fire issues and most of them were recalled and fixed.

All mid engine cars Fiero included generate a lot of heat into the engine compartment because of the exhaust components and catalytic converter being clustered underneath the engine. Make sure there are no oil leaks onto the exhaust manifold from the valve covers or anything else, use the most expensive fel-pro valve cover gasket on the duke. Make sure all of the ignition wire separators are in place, they were missing on my duke when I got it and a wire touched the exhaust and caught on fire. Something for just our cars is the blower housing having a mouse nest or leaves inside it which can catch fire, make sure that is clean inside.

Thanks will look into a full shake down

quote Originally posted by FieroCanada: Only the 84 year fieros had the fire issues and most of them were recalled and fixed.

.......is my understanding as well. like I never heard that the V6 caught fire??
that's all I have to say when confronted with the topic of fire....."it was only the 4 cly and the 1984 Fiero, only"
they usually go....."oh" and that's that!
til I mention I have a 350 SBC and a 3800 SC in my Fiero's.
well then the talk is all about the pavement fires and burnouts!! yeeeehaw!

All the affected Fieros should long since have had the recall maintenance performed on them. That having been said, proper maintenance is VERY important on mid-engined cars. Proper cooling, no fluid leaks, etc. Also, don't park where dry leaves can collect above your decklid vents. Keep your oil full. Watch for leaks, as mentioned. Keep an eye on your gauges while driving, after verifying that your gauges are accurate.

Some 2.5 '85s were also affected. I once drove 298 miles in a 2.8 V6 that leaked about a quart every 50 miles. What a mess! The o-ring, some gaskets, the oil pressure sending unit, who knows what else leaked. It sure smoked, but no fire. Not my brightest moment.

Oh. I also carry a fire extinguisher in my car. Not just the Fiero. Old habit from a job that required my to carry one, as well as other emergency items.

When people spout off to me about them all catching fires, I tell them it was only the green ones that caught fire. It is priceless to see them pause and actually try to rationalize that statement with their little brains. If it goes any further, I continue to explain that that is why you never see any of the factory green ones on the road any longer, and ask when was the last time they saw a green Fiero on the road

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quote Originally posted by JohnWPB: When people spout off to me about them all catching fires, I tell them it was only the green ones that caught fire. It is priceless to see them pause and actually try to rationalize that statement with their little brains. If it goes any further, I continue to explain that that is why you never see any of the factory green ones on the road any longer, and ask when was the last time they saw a green Fiero on the road

LMAO! I hope you don't mind if I use that one. Maybe I should paint one green and pass it off as very rare model

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The urban legend of the "green fiero" starts here! From now on when someone asks about engine fires, it was only the green ones!

My friend painted his '85 2.5 green.

Situation just got dangerous for him!

quote Originally posted by no2pencil: My friend painted his '85 2.5 green. Situation just got dangerous for him!

quote Originally posted by JohnWPB: that is why you never see any of the factory green ones on the road any longer

I just look very serious and matter of factly when I say it was only the green ones. It is just so entertaining to me to watch their face go kinda blank, and they really do just try to figure some sort of reason or meaning to this. Better yet when they nod as if they already knew that, or that they believe what you are saying LOL

Well now maybe I just decided on the color to pant mine! Tell then is was only the green ones and walk away.

quote Originally posted by JohnWPB: When people spout off to me about them all catching fires, I tell them it was only the green ones that caught fire. It is priceless to see them pause and actually try to rationalize that statement with their little brains. If it goes any further, I continue to explain that that is why you never see any of the factory green ones on the road any longer, and ask when was the last time they saw a green Fiero on the road

You really like messing with strangers about the fire issue, don't you?

quote Originally posted by Ang84Indy: You really like messing with strangers about the fire issue, don't you?

They started it!

Everyone knows they catch on fire. They always have.
Most haters just spit on them since they can't afford one, even after it's burned up.

quote Originally posted by jediperk: Normally, I would concede you make a good point on this one. However, GM is currently recalling, what's the count up to now? 3 million plus vehicles? And those vehicles don't have all of those zero's in the price tag. I think this is a German company ran by Germans doing what they do no matter how many zero's are involved in cost. I lived in Germany for seven years and I figured out why they make good cars and it is NOT superior engineering. It's the nit-noid attention to detail stuff in the assembly process. I have been all over this planet and have never seen an entire culture of people so fixated on attention to detail and uniformity. They take it to OCD levels and once they settle on a "standard" for doing something, that is how it's done: PERIOD. (And that is not a liberal politician period either

I saw this first hand in Germany. .. they won't even cross the street unless the walk sign is lit.

quote Originally posted by jscott1: I saw this first hand in Germany. .. they won't even cross the street unless the walk sign is lit.

Why have rules if nobody follows them?