In the process of repairing the damage caused by being rear-ended I purchased a replacement deck lid. It has holes for a wing. After a bit of contemplating I purchased a wing.
I did some searching on this forum to determine how to get the spring force correct for the added weight of the wing. This is a '88 Coupe, original to the best of my knowledge.
Some of the threads seemed to indicate that the original springs could be adjusted to handle the extra weight. One thread said that there were different springs. None of the threads offered a definitive answer.
So, will the original springs be able to be adjusted or will I need to find different springs?
Some of the threads seemed to indicate that the original springs could be adjusted to handle the extra weight. One thread said that there were different springs. None of the threads offered a definitive answer.
So, will the original springs be able to be adjusted or will I need to find different springs?
There are different springs. There are adjustments which can be made.
The simplest thing to do is to adjust the ones you have and see if the tension is enough.
The Torque Rods come in different strengths and a spot of color on each rod identifies the deck lid configuration they were designed to support. If the paint is worn, faded or missing, you can also tell by the RPO code what torque rod should have been on the car.
Red = plain White = Spoiler (RPO code D80) Blue = Luggage carrier (RPO code V56)
There is also the adjustment holes to 'fine tune' them. The torque rod retaining pin seems to come from the factory in the center of the 3 available holes. The Shop Manual says "To increase tension on torque rod, move the pin rearward one hole." But, be VERY CAREFUL! There's a lot of tension there.
If you do a search of PFF, there are many threads on this topic. Since the PFF search engine isn't that good, I use google and enter the search string: "site:fiero.nl torque rod". I came up with 983 hits.
Search terms are critical. Most people call it a "decklid". And the "spring" can be called a "torque rod" or a "torsion rod" etc.
And look in all PFF categories/forums, both current and archived... and don't limit yourself to Subject/Username.
If you take another look at my post, please note that I didn't use PFF search. Instead I go to (Google) and enter the search string: "site:fiero.nl torque rod". Entering "site:fiero.nrl" and then the words you're looking for directs the search engine to search for the phase in the PFF website. That's how I came up with 983 hits.
If you take another look at my post, please note that I didn't use PFF search.
Oh, I didn't miss that. I was simply explaining to Craig why he might've only got 19 hits while using the search function here (as I've seen this mentioned by other people numerous times).
Bob, I like to use the method you've described when I'm trying to find a particular image posted at PFF. Other than that, I have pretty good success finding info here with the PFF search function.
The Torque Rods come in different strengths and a spot of color on each rod identifies the deck lid configuration they were designed to support. If the paint is worn, faded or missing, you can also tell by the RPO code what torque rod should have been on the car.
Red = plain White = Spoiler (RPO code D80) Blue = Luggage carrier (RPO code V56)
There is also the adjustment holes to 'fine tune' them. The torque rod retaining pin seems to come from the factory in the center of the 3 available holes. The Shop Manual says "To increase tension on torque rod, move the pin rearward one hole." But, be VERY CAREFUL! There's a lot of tension there.
If you do a search of PFF, there are many threads on this topic. Since the PFF search engine isn't that good, I use google and enter the search string: "site:fiero.nl torque rod". I came up with 983 hits.
Good Luck.
Bob
Hey guys, figured I'd hijack this old thread... couple of questions:
- Which torsion bar goes on first... the drivers side one, or the passenger side one (as in, which one attaches to the decklid first). - Anyone know exactly "where" the paint splotch would be located on these torsion bars? My daugther repainted hers, and we want to add the paint color back in the proper location... just curious. - Can anyone here confirm that with a decklid, the dowel pin is located in the CENTER of the three holes?
Would anyone mind taking a picture of both sides of the hinges to show how they are installed? I more or less know how it goes... but a picture helps. The one in the FAQ / How To Section, the pictures are all missing except one.
Thank you!
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If you wanna make it easy, I removed the springs on my decklid for a eventual replacement with a electronic actuator, I have a 86GT with a wing, these are the original spring in good shape. Id let em go for the right price
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Hey guys, figured I'd hijack this old thread... couple of questions:
- Which torsion bar goes on first... the drivers side one, or the passenger side one (as in, which one attaches to the decklid first). - Anyone know exactly "where" the paint splotch would be located on these torsion bars? My daugther repainted hers, and we want to add the paint color back in the proper location... just curious. - Can anyone here confirm that with a decklid, the dowel pin is located in the CENTER of the three holes?
Would anyone mind taking a picture of both sides of the hinges to show how they are installed? I more or less know how it goes... but a picture helps. The one in the FAQ / How To Section, the pictures are all missing except one.
Thank you!
The torsion rods we took off my 87 Fiero GT (with spoiler) were in the middle hole when we removed them. If you'd need a set, I still have them, let me know.
The torsion rods we took off my 87 Fiero GT (with spoiler) were in the middle hole when we removed them. If you'd need a set, I still have them, let me know.
Thanks! After a LOT of struggle... I mean, a lot... I managed to get them on. But I could only get them on (by hand) in the first notch. It's enough for me to easily lift the decklid with it unlocked, but not enough to hold it up. It falls just as easily, just without the full weight of the decklid.
I'm thinking I definitely need it to be in the middle as well.
I also noticed that on ONE of the torsion rods, the metal is starting to wear on the rod at the bend. I had one of these break years ago on my own 87 Fiero, and had to order a replacement one from Ed Parks. So, at least I know now that this needs to be oiled on a regular basis to prevent it from wearing through the bar (it was a BRUTAL snap... I remember the day it broke, like over a decade ago).
I'm definitely good on the torsion bars (thank you!) but now I need to get them into the second slight. I saw a post from someone (maybe Raydar) who used a come-along or ratchet-strap to pull them forward (after already being installed, just enough to move the pin to the second slot.
EDIT: This is someone else's image I just edited, but I noticed on the image you can see a ton of rust "dust." It's this driver's side hook that always ends up being the one that wears out (from what I remember Ed Parks telling me). The one on the right (passenger side) never takes any wear at all like this... not sure why. But you can see where this corner needs to be lubricated regularly... right where it rotates in that hook.
[This message has been edited by 82-T/A [At Work] (edited 12-08-2024).]
