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Reproduction TAIL LIGHTS coming soon by Slammed
Started on | : 04-20-2015 03:18 PM |
Replies | : 575 (27186 views) |
Last post by | : E.Furgal on 04-24-2016 01:14 PM |
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Nov 6th, 2015
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Rodney Member Posts: 4715 From: Caledonia, WI USA Registered: Feb 2000
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Like I said. More silliness. This person needs to put out or shut up. All one big joke IMO. For someone to under take such a large project like this and then live in total secrecy and leave everyone totally in the dark about everything is in my opinion very odd. IMO something is very wrong here. ------------------ Rodney Dickman
Fiero Parts And Acc's Web Page: All new web page!:www.rodneydickman.com Rodney Dickman's Fiero accessories 7604 Treeview Drive Caledonia, WI 53108 Phone/Fax (262) 835-9575
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05:40 PM
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David Hambleton Member Posts: 1593 From: Stoney Creek Ontario Canada Registered: Nov 2012
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| quote | Originally posted by David Hambleton:
Hey Slammed! Don't adopt the negative, self defeatist mentality.
Lots of guys trying to make horse-less carriages heard a lot of negative comments. Lots failed, some obviously didn't. There will always be people predicting failure - sometimes they get to say "see I told you". The only way to avoid negative comments is to keep development secret.
Lots of people with successful ventures have a history of failures. Unanticipated hurdles frequently delay success. Persistence may be required. Hopefully you'll overcome the obstacles. If not, thanks for trying!
p.s. I'm a notchback aficionado, so I won't be a customer for this product. Maybe your next though!
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Hey Slammed: I'm surprised by the continued vitriol from several sources that are typically very helpful in the Fiero community. I can't imagine it serving any constructive purpose to any of the participants or the recipient. As some have said, if your valiant efforts come to fruition a market awaits; likely including some of the nay-sayers. Don't worry about the timing... get a good quality product before it's put 'out there'. Good luck!
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05:58 PM
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NEVERDONE Member Posts: 1088 From: ft worth, tx Registered: Sep 2011
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I have a question. And this is just something that popped in my head just now. I see from time to time that the fiero store sometimes puts up a side box that says something to the effect of "r & d" or "coming g soon". Do they ever post photos of the products before they are ready? Again, I'm not on either side. Just curious.
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07:57 PM
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Patrick Member Posts: 38332 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
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| quote | Originally posted by NEVERDONE:
Do they ever post photos of the products before they are ready?
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Do they ever say they're going to "post photos of the products"... repeatedly... and then disappear each time? No one's twisting the arm of Slammed to make these promises. This is all so weird.
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08:06 PM
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NEVERDONE Member Posts: 1088 From: ft worth, tx Registered: Sep 2011
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Do they ever say they're going to "post photos of the products"... repeatedly... and then disappear each time. |
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Well put.
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08:15 PM
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jscott1 Member Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
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| quote | Originally posted by David Hambleton:
Hey Slammed: I'm surprised by the continued vitriol from several sources that are typically very helpful in the Fiero community. I can't imagine it serving any constructive purpose to any of the participants or the recipient. As some have said, if your valiant efforts come to fruition a market awaits; likely including some of the nay-sayers. Don't worry about the timing... get a good quality product before it's put 'out there'. Good luck!
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We just are not enamored with false prophets. Don't come in here making promises you can't deliver on.
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10:19 PM
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David Hambleton Member Posts: 1593 From: Stoney Creek Ontario Canada Registered: Nov 2012
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| quote | Originally posted by jscott1: We just are not enamored with false prophets. Don't come in here making promises you can't deliver on. |
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Ok, lol! When I embark on a Fiero project I usually considerably underestimate the time it will take. Why? Fiero!  Fortunately, I have two other Fieros to drive if one is down and a 'real' car too, and nobody else cares anyway!  In Slammed's case, maybe it's youthful exuberance... Maybe inexperience... Maybe unfounded optimism... Maybe wishful thinking... Maybe excitement of a new venture... Maybe project participants encountering unanticipated difficulties...  Whatever it is, does it justify 11 pages of condescension & harassment? Seems a little excessive. We have the option to wait & see. What's to be gained by all the chastising? Are we 'putting someone in their place'?  The pointedly uncomplimentary reactions have the potential to squelch future ambitious projects; at the very least to discourage the discussion of ideas on PFF with the very people who one would think would be interested.
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11:11 PM
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rinselberg Member Posts: 16118 From: Sunnyvale, CA (USA) Registered: Mar 2010
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Where I was raised, we used to say: "Never write a check with your mouth you can't cash with your ass." ~Colonel Dexter Armstrong (Scott Glen) Click to show  [This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 11-10-2015).]
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11:12 PM
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Danyel Member Posts: 6089 From: Lévis, Québec, Canada Registered: Sep 2008
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Personally I think this thread should go to the trash can .... and if HE or SHE shows up with something to sell ( ya right) HE or SHE can make a new thread with pics and proof.... till then this is just some person's fantasy...
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11:58 PM
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Nov 7th, 2015
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steve308 Member Posts: 4025 From: Stafford VA Registered: Jan 2008
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Like I've said before ------ stop posting --let it die.
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08:16 AM
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Rodney Member Posts: 4715 From: Caledonia, WI USA Registered: Feb 2000
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Originally posted by Slammed:07-17-2015: As fun as it is having people assume I'm a crook, because we missed our own deadline, I am going to stop posting. 07-18-2015: This really is my last post until they are ready. I apologize if I ruffled any feathers, I did not mean to. Now if Slammed would stick her promises. Or is this Slammed just posting occasionally to keep the pot stirred up? ------------------ Rodney Dickman
Fiero Parts And Acc's Web Page: All new web page!:www.rodneydickman.com Rodney Dickman's Fiero accessories 7604 Treeview Drive Caledonia, WI 53108 Phone/Fax (262) 835-9575
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08:56 AM
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PFF
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fierofool Member Posts: 12955 From: Auburn, Georgia USA Registered: Jan 2002
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I need tail lights or lenses. Just like many of us posting in or watching this thread. I haven't put out any money. Just like those of us posting in or watching this thread. If the promised lenses come to be, I'll buy a pair if I can afford them. Just like those of us posting in or watching this thread. If they are never produced, I'm no worse than I am at the present time. Just like everyone else posting in or watching this thread. So, why all the bellyaching?
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03:08 PM
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Nov 8th, 2015
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cyrus88 Member Posts: 406 From: Registered: Jun 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by fierofool:
. . . . So, why all the bellyaching?
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Is that a rhetorical question or are you complaining about something?
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03:29 AM
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Patrick Member Posts: 38332 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
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| quote | Originally posted by Slammed 11-04-2015 04:38 PM:
I will be posting an update later this week with pictures...
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Another self-imposed deadline has come and gone... and still nothing. How anyone can take this person seriously is beyond me. [This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 11-08-2015).]
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03:58 AM
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Danyel Member Posts: 6089 From: Lévis, Québec, Canada Registered: Sep 2008
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jscott1 Member Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
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| quote | Originally posted by David Hambleton:
Whatever it is, does it justify 11 pages of condescension & harassment? Seems a little excessive. We have the option to wait & see. What's to be gained by all the chastising? Are we 'putting someone in their place'? 
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In my opinion...yes. What else do we have to talk about except the false prophets who claim to be able to make all the un-makeable parts and over-promise and under deliver?
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09:36 PM
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Nov 9th, 2015
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jon m Member Posts: 1194 From: ENGLAND Registered: Apr 2004
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So why don't we let this thread go and if slammed does come up with the goods then I am sure he/she will resurrect it
jon
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05:33 AM
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jmbishop Member Posts: 4484 From: Probably Texas Registered: Jul 2006
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| quote | Originally posted by jon m:
So why don't we let this thread go and if slammed does come up with the goods then I am sure he/she will resurrect it
jon |
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That's what I'm thinking....
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09:37 AM
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cyrus88 Member Posts: 406 From: Registered: Jun 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by jon m:
So why don't we let this thread go and if slammed does come up with the goods then I am sure he/she will resurrect it
jon |
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There is no "if." There never was, or is, anything! There will be nothing but nonsense from Slammed. Early on I joked about the cult of GT lenses, but I never expected it to be a real thing. Everyone here that keeps thinking Slammed will deliver is falling for a cult. I don't know how else to make sense of this fiasco in any other terms.
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05:02 PM
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Nov 10th, 2015
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jon m Member Posts: 1194 From: ENGLAND Registered: Apr 2004
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| quote | Originally posted by cyrus88:
There is no "if." There never was, or is, anything! There will be nothing but nonsense from Slammed.
Early on I joked about the cult of GT lenses, but I never expected it to be a real thing. Everyone here that keeps thinking Slammed will deliver is falling for a cult. I don't know how else to make sense of this fiasco in any other terms. |
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One should never under estimate or dis credit until there is proof then decide - yes everyone maybe thinking that slammed may deliver - because the tail lights if they could be reproduced would be everyone's dream come true. As I said earlier let the thread go and if slammed is a troll or a dreamer or whatever then the thread will go - If he is genuine then I am sure he/she will resurrect this thread for sure just to rub peoples noses in it. jon
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07:39 AM
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Tony Kania Member Posts: 20794 From: The Inland Northwest Registered: Dec 2008
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jaskispyder Member Posts: 21510 From: Northern MI Registered: Jun 2002
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Danyel Member Posts: 6089 From: Lévis, Québec, Canada Registered: Sep 2008
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| quote | Originally posted by jaskispyder: I've got some land in Florida... excellent price  |
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We have some companies up here that have for sale .. 1. Hammers to take dents out of windows. 2. Paints for the sound barrier. 3. Refrigerators for eskimos soon added New Fiero Fastback tailights
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02:44 PM
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slicknick Member Posts: 391 From: Jacksonville, FL Registered: Feb 2010
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Boy, this thread tells a lot more about the community than it does the OP.
Someone tried, someone (might have) failed, and now their name is dirt. And at no loss to anyone on this forum, not one red cent.
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03:56 PM
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cyrus88 Member Posts: 406 From: Registered: Jun 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by slicknick:
Boy, this thread tells a lot more about the community than it does the OP.
Someone tried, someone (might have) failed, and now their name is dirt. And at no loss to anyone on this forum, not one red cent. |
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It sure does say something about the community. It says that some believe anything based on exactly zero evidence, and others not so much. By the way what evidence do you have, which is not available to anyone else on this forum, that someone or anyone "tried" anything?
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05:34 PM
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dobey Member Posts: 11572 From: Registered: Sep 2001
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| quote | Originally posted by cyrus88: It sure does say something about the community. It says that some believe anything based on exactly zero evidence, and others not so much.
By the way what evidence do you have, which is not available to anyone else on this forum, that someone or anyone "tried" anything? |
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Some people in this thread have way overstepped their privilege. And what evidence do you have that OP hasn't been trying to create lenses? You're claiming the absence of evidence is the evidence of absence?
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05:50 PM
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rinselberg Member Posts: 16118 From: Sunnyvale, CA (USA) Registered: Mar 2010
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Someone's declared perception that there is an absence of evidence can also be evidence of absinthe (if they had any in the hours or minutes immediately prior to said declaration). Click to show
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06:19 PM
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Napoleon_Tanerite Member Posts: 683 From: Columbus, MS Registered: Sep 2015
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| quote | Originally posted by cyrus88:
It sure does say something about the community. It says that some believe anything based on exactly zero evidence, and others not so much.
By the way what evidence do you have, which is not available to anyone else on this forum, that someone or anyone "tried" anything? |
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Let's say I am the manufacturer of aftermarket car parts. I do my homework and see there is a need for GT tail light lenses for the 86-88 Fiero. I decide to start work on them, and post a thread regarding said work on the biggest Fiero community on the internet. And then, 34 minutes after posting the thread THE FIRST REPLY begins a wave of interrogation and negativity that ultimately leads to outright accusations of being a liar, a cheat, a troll, a scammer, etc. How welcoming is that for a prospective vendor? I've seen plenty of threads here and on Facebook lamenting the loss of vendors to the Fiero in recent years, but it's not hard to understand why. Whether Slammed delivers or not, there are several members who have posted in this thread who should be ashamed of how rude they were to someone for no good reason beyond they wanted to be the loudest voice in an internet pissing match. Facts (as I see them) 1. Slammed has made promises and deadlines that have consistently been missed (foul on her part, reason for concern) 2. ZERO money has been requested, transmitted, or received by any party for these lenses 3. Members hoping for reproduction lenses are in the same position they were five months ago, no better, no worse So fact 1 above is obviously less than ideal, but what reason does she have to produce ANY updates for you? In fact, given the level of vitriol sent her way, I wouldn't blame her if she just threw out the big F U and pulled the plug on any project she may be running if she is actually doing something. We may never know, but it certainly wasn't helped by a bunch of internet tough guys DEMANDING "proof" of a game they had no skin in. So unless someone can show demonstrable harm that Slammed has caused to someone, I say cool it with all the butthurt and name calling. If she delivers it will be one of the best days the Fiero has seen in a long time. If she doesn't deliver, there's no loss to the community beyond what someone makes of it.
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07:37 PM
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Neils88 Member Posts: 4057 From: Jeddore,Nova Scotia Registered: Aug 2013
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| quote | Originally posted by Napoleon_Tanerite:
Let's say I am the manufacturer of aftermarket car parts. I do my homework and see there is a need for GT tail light lenses for the 86-88 Fiero. I decide to start work on them, and post a thread regarding said work on the biggest Fiero community on the internet. And then, 34 minutes after posting the thread THE FIRST REPLY begins a wave of interrogation and negativity that ultimately leads to outright accusations of being a liar, a cheat, a troll, a scammer, etc. How welcoming is that for a prospective vendor? I've seen plenty of threads here and on Facebook lamenting the loss of vendors to the Fiero in recent years, but it's not hard to understand why. Whether Slammed delivers or not, there are several members who have posted in this thread who should be ashamed of how rude they were to someone for no good reason beyond they wanted to be the loudest voice in an internet pissing match.
Facts (as I see them) 1. Slammed has made promises and deadlines that have consistently been missed (foul on her part, reason for concern) 2. ZERO money has been requested, transmitted, or received by any party for these lenses 3. Members hoping for reproduction lenses are in the same position they were five months ago, no better, no worse
So fact 1 above is obviously less than ideal, but what reason does she have to produce ANY updates for you? In fact, given the level of vitriol sent her way, I wouldn't blame her if she just threw out the big F U and pulled the plug on any project she may be running if she is actually doing something. We may never know, but it certainly wasn't helped by a bunch of internet tough guys DEMANDING "proof" of a game they had no skin in.
So unless someone can show demonstrable harm that Slammed has caused to someone, I say cool it with all the butthurt and name calling. If she delivers it will be one of the best days the Fiero has seen in a long time. If she doesn't deliver, there's no loss to the community beyond what someone makes of it. |
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08:13 PM
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Danyel Member Posts: 6089 From: Lévis, Québec, Canada Registered: Sep 2008
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I have been manufacturing and selling new products on this forum for years now and I NEVER promised something that I didn't complete .... presently I'm in the final stages of making and selling two new products which I think will sell like hotcakes .... have I said or made a thread on these?? NO ... WHY ?? ..... well its because of threads and people like this OP... if ya open your mouth then ya better show something for it .... therefore if you run into SNAGS or cant complete the product, well nothing said nothing expected and NO ONE BIATCHES !!!! PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS !!!! As to Slammed this thread is playin against him or her and makin members fight and argue ''probably what this Slammed is trying to do IMHO'' ... I only ask that he or she proves us wrong .. we're still waiting on pics Slammed !!
Danyel
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08:23 PM
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slicknick Member Posts: 391 From: Jacksonville, FL Registered: Feb 2010
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| quote | Originally posted by Danyel:
I have been manufacturing and selling new products on this forum for years now and I NEVER promised something that I didn't complete .... presently I'm in the final stages of making and selling two new products which I think will sell like hotcakes .... have I said or made a thread on these?? NO ... WHY ?? ..... well its because of threads and people like this OP... if ya open your mouth then ya better show something for it .... therefore if you run into SNAGS or cant complete the product, well nothing said nothing expected and NO ONE BIATCHES !!!! PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS !!!! As to Slammed this thread is playin against him or her and makin members fight and argue ''probably what this Slammed is trying to do IMHO'' ... I only ask that he or she proves us wrong .. we're still waiting on pics Slammed !!
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I don't see how it's any different than the hundreds of dead end builds on here. I was going to put a GTO cluster in my Fiero. Even got it mostly working, but quit. Noone ran me out of town over it.
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08:35 PM
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jscott1 Member Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
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| quote | Originally posted by Danyel:
I have been manufacturing and selling new products on this forum for years now and I NEVER promised something that I didn't complete .... presently I'm in the final stages of making and selling two new products which I think will sell like hotcakes .... have I said or made a thread on these?? NO ... WHY ?? ..... well its because of threads and people like this OP... if ya open your mouth then ya better show something for it .... therefore if you run into SNAGS or cant complete the product, well nothing said nothing expected and NO ONE BIATCHES !!!! PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS !!!! As to Slammed this thread is playin against him or her and makin members fight and argue ''probably what this Slammed is trying to do IMHO'' ... I only ask that he or she proves us wrong .. we're still waiting on pics Slammed !!
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 This is just common sense and good business. What if Microsoft held press conferences and announced to the world that they had a Window 11 that was better than anything Apple could ever dream of, and 9 months later nothing ever materialized. You think there would be vitriol? They would be ridiculed mercilessly. You don't talk about a product unless you have a very strong idea you can produce it.
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08:39 PM
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Napoleon_Tanerite Member Posts: 683 From: Columbus, MS Registered: Sep 2015
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Lots of entitlement in this thread.... someone posts that they're working on a project and suddenly people are ENTITLED to updates, and they are ENTITLED to a finished product. There are PLENTY of products that were announced, marketed, and never produced-- tons of entertainment products (video games, movies, etc) as well as cars (Pontiac G8 ST), and plenty more. The lack of delivery on these products sure does hurt the short term credibility of the company, but doesn't necessarily torpedo the entire company.
Despite the term being thrown around, this isn't a scam. She never asked for any money, so nobody lost out on anything but maybe their own sense of entitlement.
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08:44 PM
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Tony Kania Member Posts: 20794 From: The Inland Northwest Registered: Dec 2008
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A pizzed off ex member created a thread knowing the dishonesty he was portraying while fooling sheep? I will apologize heavily if necessary. I will not laugh or say I told you so if I am correct. I will still be unhappy.
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10:19 PM
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fireboss Member Posts: 2248 From: hueytown ,alabama Registered: Apr 2011
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Yep... And did a great job of "poken the bear".
Yall know this thread was a totally mean JOKE....right?
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11:50 PM
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Nov 11th, 2015
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cyrus88 Member Posts: 406 From: Registered: Jun 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by Napoleon_Tanerite:
Lots of entitlement in this thread.... |
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I have no idea what thread you are referring to, but in this thread no one expressed entitlement to updates or anything else. Is the expectation that someone deliver on their promises considered an entitlement now? Again, as I've asked others on here who keep making excuses for slammed, what evidence have you seen that makes you believe slammed started any project whatsoever? I don't feel entitled to an answer to that question. The question is for you to answer to yourself (as long as it doesn't make you feel entitled, I guess). Finally, I will state it again: no one asked slammed to come here and make promises! [This message has been edited by cyrus88 (edited 11-11-2015).]
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04:52 AM
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cyrus88 Member Posts: 406 From: Registered: Jun 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by dobey:
Some people in this thread have way overstepped their privilege.
And what evidence do you have that OP hasn't been trying to create lenses?
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What privilege would that be? As far as evidence is concerned: that which can be established without evidence can be rejected without evidence. So I have given you all the evidence needed. [This message has been edited by cyrus88 (edited 11-11-2015).]
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04:57 AM
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cyrus88 Member Posts: 406 From: Registered: Jun 2003
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Okay, I guess I am starting to really piss off the cult. So I will not be posting anymore in this thread. I will not even look at it again. And yes, you the readers, are entitled to hold me to it.
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05:15 AM
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Raydar Member Posts: 41105 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
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To my complete amazement, this dumbass thread was at the top of the list, when I woke up this morning. Kind of reminds me of the "better car acquired" thread in the Trashcan. There's a thought...
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05:21 AM
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Rodney Member Posts: 4715 From: Caledonia, WI USA Registered: Feb 2000
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| quote | Originally posted by Raydar: Kind of reminds me of the "better car acquired" thread in the Trashcan. : |
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And the second post on page one of that topic is from someone named Slammed Fiero who was banned. Slammed here in this topic, Slammed Fiero in that topic. I wonder? Same person coming back for revenge?? ------------------ Rodney Dickman
Fiero Parts And Acc's Web Page: All new web page!:www.rodneydickman.com Rodney Dickman's Fiero accessories 7604 Treeview Drive Caledonia, WI 53108 Phone/Fax (262) 835-9575
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07:12 AM
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