quote Originally posted by tshark: Other than the interior, anything else different?

Since its an 88 Pilot car, I believe it has the power steering that 88's were going to get.

Well, power steering. Also Fred said he has found various things different from a factory 88. I did notice more than one type of bolt on the valvecover, a black one and a chrome one. Also it has factory fog lights, I,'ll post a pic...

Did I see a factory ”dogbone cover”?

I wonder if the fog lights interfere with airflow/cause overheating.

Does it run now? I mean, I know it's not street legal, but is as driveable as say, his pace car?

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quote Originally posted by tshark: Did I see a factory ”dogbone cover”? Does it run now? I mean, I know it's not street legal, but is as driveable as say, his pace car?

It has the triangle-shaped plastic thing, yes. Being built so early (Mar. '87), it has a lot of '87 characteristics. But it also has the '88-style engine-vent stands, the '88 oil pressure switch, the '88 alternator, the '88 exhaust shields, etc.

Its not driveable; if I understand correctly it hasn't even been started since 1991. It needs a lot of TLC first.

quote Originally posted by tshark: I wonder if the fog lights interfere with airflow/cause overheating.

Fieros are bottom breathers, as far as airflow to the radiator is concerned, so you could completely block off the open "grille" area and not overheat.

There was a guy in Phoenix who installed driving lights in that same area.....he covered all of the opening up with 4 lights and never had overheating issues in the Arizona heat.


Another small thing about this car were the seat skins. They were '88 GT pleated gray cloth seats, but the bottoms had the welting/piping that is found on the '86-'88 GT's. The heat shield on the y-pipe was attached differently too.....lots of small details are different since it is such an early car. It'll be fun finding out about all these differences once Fred restores this GT.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by mrfiero:


Fieros are bottom breathers, as far as airflow to the radiator is concerned, so you could completely block off the open "grille" area and not overheat.

There was a guy in Phoenix who installed driving lights in that same area.....he covered all of the opening up with 4 lights and never had overheating issues in the Arizona heat.

Mike,

Fred and I had this discussion this past weekend. I have the Pontiac dealer aftermarket / accessory Fiero drive lights on my 88GT. While not overheating, the car definitely runs cooler when the front plate is off versus when it is on. There is some air offering going through the upper opening. Note the bug debris that accumulates in the area.

Jeff

quote Originally posted by GTGeff: Mike, Fred and I had this discussion this past weekend. I have the Pontiac dealer aftermarket / accessory Fiero drive lights on my 88GT. While not overheating, the car definitely runs cooler when the front plate is off versus when it is on. There is some air offering going through the upper opening. Note the bug debris that accumulates in the area. Jeff

I don't disagree with you. My example was anecdotal....I have no direct experience with blocking off the air opening. I do remember thinking the same thing when I saw his car, but he insisted there were no overheating issues. This was back in 1998 though......he may have had issues later that I'm not aware of....who knows?

quote Originally posted by mrfiero: I don't disagree with you. My example was anecdotal....I have no direct experience with blocking off the air opening. I do remember thinking the same thing when I saw his car, but he insisted there were no overheating issues. This was back in 1998 though......he may have had issues later that I'm not aware of....who knows?

All I know is that when the cop stops me and asks me why I don't have a front plate, I tell him it will overheat and catch fire and explode if I have front plate

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