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Seatbelt Neck by 1MohrFiero
Started on | : 11-22-2016 10:32 AM |
Replies | : 18 (656 views) |
Last post by | : PK on 12-05-2016 11:44 AM |
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Nov 22nd, 2016
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1MohrFiero Member Posts: 4363 From: Paducah, Ky Registered: Apr 2003
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Does anybody have a good way of stopping the seatbelt from wearing a hole in your neck? Just wondering if there is something to adjust or a device to add that prevents this. I havent tried the pads yet because they seem to be more about pressure on the shoulder. Thanks Dwayne ------------------
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10:32 AM
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PFF
System Bot
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jaskispyder Member Posts: 21510 From: Northern MI Registered: Jun 2002
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could try one of these (many places sell)
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12:23 PM
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jaredmurray88 Member Posts: 1153 From: wellersburg pa Registered: Mar 2011
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Pull a little slack in the belt to where it's comfortable and snap a "bulldog" paper binder at the opening so it doesn't retract back in. Or you could use a nail/pin so it's not so noticeable. Just don't shut the belt in the door when you get out.
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01:23 PM
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fierofool Member Posts: 12954 From: Auburn, Georgia USA Registered: Jan 2002
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Russ88TTop Member Posts: 805 From: Denver, IN, USA Registered: Jul 2004
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I still make them, you have a PM  Russ ------------------
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07:19 PM
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Nov 23rd, 2016
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1MohrFiero Member Posts: 4363 From: Paducah, Ky Registered: Apr 2003
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I ordered a set of the clip things last night. I will try that first. I think the padded strap might help with pressure on the shoulder but not much with the neck.
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10:30 AM
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fierofool Member Posts: 12954 From: Auburn, Georgia USA Registered: Jan 2002
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The ones I have are actually quite comfortable on the neck. Takes away that cutting edge of the belt. If they're still uncomfortable, you can always do the Gangsta Lean thing. Whatever you use, in order to be effective, the seatbelt shoulder strap needs to stay snug against the chest. No slack.
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07:28 PM
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David Hambleton Member Posts: 1593 From: Stoney Creek Ontario Canada Registered: Nov 2012
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Fiero seatbelts are adjustable for tension. Pull the seatbelt just slightly away from your chest and allow it to 'catch' by slowly returning your thumb to your chest. The owner's manual specifies a maximum of 1" of slack. That'll keep it off your neck.
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09:05 PM
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Nov 24th, 2016
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fierosound Member Posts: 15207 From: Calgary, Canada Registered: Nov 1999
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Nov 29th, 2016
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PontiacTate Member Posts: 56 From: Goldsboro, NC, USA Registered: Oct 2015
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I wish there was some form of a seat belt guide that we could incorporate for the Fiero so it wouldn't be cutting necks off. lol. I've tried the clips and they're a pain in the rear when trying to actually take the seat belt off or put on cause they bunch up the belt. Tate
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09:07 PM
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Nov 30th, 2016
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theogre Member Posts: 32520 From: USA Registered: Mar 99
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| quote | Originally posted by David Hambleton: Fiero seatbelts are adjustable for tension. Pull the seatbelt just slightly away from your chest and allow it to 'catch' by slowly returning your thumb to your chest. The owner's manual specifies a maximum of 1" of slack. That'll keep it off your neck.  |
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Sorry... Fiero Seat belt isn't really made to adjust regardless whatever OM says. Springs for many cars keep the belt a little tight all the time. Is design to Allow you to move around but Locks when you hit the brake enough to move the pendulum(s) in the belt assembly. Releases the lock automatically when driving on level ground or low hills. (Steep hills can lock them too.) You might get it to give a bit of slack to start but will soon loose that when you move to drive, back up, etc. If you car won't keep some pressure on the belt then belt likely has problems. Example: Many Fiero and other old cars have dirty belts and that alone can cause enough binding to keep the belt too loose or too tight while driving. Many new cars have adjustable brackets on upper B pillar (C pillar too for some) to stop cutting necks. Too bad is not an easy or safe way to upgrade to this in a Fiero. Many New cars use same setup and adds pretension parts so air bags goes off the belt tightens too. Pretension parts maybe part of the belt ratchet, the latch, or both. (I had to replace a latch because pretensioner made AB light on even tho didn't blow the pretension piston or anything else.) ------------------ Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should. (Jurassic Park)The Ogre's Fiero Cave[This message has been edited by theogre (edited 11-30-2016).]
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12:44 AM
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PFF
System Bot
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2.5 Member Posts: 43235 From: Southern MN Registered: May 2007
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theogre Member Posts: 32520 From: USA Registered: Mar 99
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5: Its seems it would be a driver height /distance from the wheel issue? |
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Mostly height and weight. Short people has problems because of "neck cutting." Many ER see this after wrecks as broken collar bone etc on short drivers. Large people often have problem w/ lower belt... Not enough belt. This is what extender are mostly made for. (Many experts say seat belt should rest on your shoulder and gives 10 to 12 inches between you and the air bag and steering wheel.) Most belts for cars sold in the US are design & built for ~ 5' 5"-5' 9" and ~160lb max. Some cars as noted above have adjustable brackets for upper body restraint to help shorter/taller people but often doesn't help pregnant women etc because belt in simply too short. Even people w/in that range... wearing big winter clothing, tool/police belts, etc, can have same problems or worse. Coats etc can move the belt off where there should be and belt is unless or even cause fatal injuries. Why don't they make a longer belt for all cars?They could but is not a simple to make. Longer belt then the more belt the retractor(s) must wind up etc. This means compete redesign and where to fit the bigger belt assemble in B or C pillar. Many are a tight fit now. Worse, Longer belt often will drag more dirt into the retractor causing big problems.
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03:11 PM
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theogre Member Posts: 32520 From: USA Registered: Mar 99
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Here's Fiero Seat Belt Assembly... (Under black plastic to keep trash out of it.)  Picture is a little small then full size. Notes: Locking arm hits teeth on each side of belt reel. (You only see 1 side of both reel here.) Belt is over filling the reel because whole belt was out of car at the time. This stops locking parts to work. In Normal operation the belts retract below locking teeth on the reels. Not sure about left side cover because didn't want risk wreck the part. Is my daily ride. (Took this a couple years ago when had to pull interior trim.) Seat Belt Waring switch is in the D side Latch. Again Many cars are same or close to this setup. Some only use 1 big reel and other end is bolted to frame near floor and latch just move on the one belt.
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04:00 PM
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Dec 2nd, 2016
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David Hambleton Member Posts: 1593 From: Stoney Creek Ontario Canada Registered: Nov 2012
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| quote | [B]Originally posted by theogre:
Sorry... Fiero Seat belt isn't really made to adjust regardless whatever OM says.
Many new cars have adjustable brackets on upper B pillar (C pillar too for some) to stop cutting necks. Too bad is not an easy or safe way to upgrade to this in a Fiero. |
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I've been driving my '84 SE since it was new in May '84, and it's still a daily driver. I automatically adjust the shoulder belt so it doesn't rub my neck just as the owner's manual suggests. My '86 coupe and '88 Formula have the same feature. Abrupt vehicle motions such as panic stops or collisions trigger the lock mechanism to ensure the wearer is restrained. I can personally attest to the functionality being effective in both of those events on several occasions. Of course, the restraint system needs to be performing according to its designed function; malfunctioning restraint systems aren't reliable restraints. That feature was introduced to encourage seat belt use by people complaining about the discomfort that a snug belt induced. It was discontinued when it became apparent that too many people were not abiding by the 'hand width' limit, thereby compromising the effectiveness of the restraint. Generally speaking, a properly functioning seatbelt mechanism operating as designed may be safer than a seatbelt with some other non-original attachment. Using devices not originally provided by the manufacturer may impair the intended function and reduce the manufacturer's liability exposure in event of a failure to restrain. My suggestion is to try the provided solution before fiddling with an attachment. It's a 'no-fuss', 'no-cost', 'no-loss', 'no harm in trying' solution to the belt rubbing your neck.
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10:17 PM
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Dec 3rd, 2016
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Australian Member Posts: 4701 From: Sydney Australia Registered: Sep 2004
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How tall are you?
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12:19 AM
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David Hambleton Member Posts: 1593 From: Stoney Creek Ontario Canada Registered: Nov 2012
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6 feet 1 inch
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08:13 AM
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Dec 4th, 2016
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maryjane Member Posts: 70037 From: Copperas Cove Texas Registered: Apr 2001
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| quote | Originally posted by Russ88TTop:
I still make them, you have a PM

Russ
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I don't remember who I bought mine from years ago (looked similar to that picture) but they do work!!
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05:03 PM
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Dec 5th, 2016
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PK Member Posts: 1249 From: Oxford, England Registered: Sep 2001
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Orief used to make them. Still doing the job maybe 10years on??
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11:44 AM
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