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Question - Modified 88 Pontiac Fiero Formula *Rare* - $5500 by Jake_Dragon
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Report this Post01-23-2019 12:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
So apart from this not looking like a Formula anyone recognize this car?

https://losangeles.craigsli...iero/6784546127.html
 
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1988 Pontiac Fiero
VIN: 1G2PE1190JP216527
condition: good
cylinders: 6 cylinders
drive: rwd
fuel: gas
odometer: 91200
paint color: custom
size: sub-compact
title status: clean
transmission: automatic
type: coupe
Up for sale is my 88 formula semi-converted to the body style of an 85 GT. Almost everything mechanical as well as cosmetic has either been changed, upgraded, or modified on this fine example of 80's auto lore. This car runs great, stops great, and cools well (ice cold a/c). The following is a list of mods associated with this car;

1. Upgraded suspension w/ Polyurethane dog bone engine mounts
2. Recent tune up with MSD 8.5mm wires and ST Streetfire MSD coil and fresh Mobil1 synthetic oil, new fuel
pump, K&N air filter, new transmission fluid and gasket, new oil pan gasket change, new EGR valve
3. Spin-tech exhaust w/ tips
4. F-I-E-R-O Rare over head scoops and trunk lid hood scoop
5. Chrome 15" aftermarket wheels on Eagle GT 91V rated tires (80% life)
6. Fiero aftermarket side scoop
7. 85 front GT facia
8. Champion 3 row aluminium radiator and entire coolant hoses changed, 160 degree Hypertech thermostat install
9. Custom embroidered interior
10. GT Grant racing steering wheel
11. Pioneer detachable face stereo CD
12. New headliner
13. Custom glove box
14. RAZR racing seats conversion (orig. available w/ sale)
...plus more

Disclaimer: Price is firm please do not waste my time if not serious. No tire-kickers or lookie-loos. Looking for a quick sale so don't have the time for unending emails or calls. Thanks for respecting my request. Good luck!
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Report this Post01-23-2019 08:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
That's a lot of car for $5500.

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Hmmm... the Formula decal was applied to a part that doesn't exist on a Formula...
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Report this Post01-23-2019 03:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
So if you search for the VIN the second hit is a thread on here

I wouldn't buy it without a Carfax report CA it is easy to end up with a salvage title.
This car looks like an SE
But if I run the vin through Fiero.net vin decoder it does come back as a Formula

 
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VIN Number: 1G2PE1190JP216527
1988 Pontiac Fiero Formula (Notchback) 2.8L HO V6
Manufactured in the USA by General Motors in Pontiac, MI.

Fiero 16527 of 26402 produced in 1988.


Now it does look like a lot of car for the money. Having been around these cars for a while I would expect there is something lurking that they listed the car for that price.
Too good to be true?
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He said in reply to my text that he replaced the front facia to make it look like an 85 GT
But he did say I can see the car this weekend.
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Ask him if it passes California smog.
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Dallas to La in just 9 years..........blazing!
Does look like a nice modded car, tho. Some nice interior add-ons. No pic of odo.
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I actually like it. There are some changes I'd make (and would make some money in the process) but I like it.
The only thing that really kills it for me is that it's an automatic.

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Originally posted by Habanera Hal:
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No pic of odo.


The ad says ~91,000.
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Originally posted by Raydar:

I actually like it. There are some changes I'd make (and would make some money in the process) but I like it.
The only thing that really kills it for me is that it's an automatic.



Yes the scoops would go and give some return on the sale
For my driving the auto would be a good choice.
I have been watching for a Formula to pop up, too bad they turned this one into an SE
If I go look it will be Sunday, its about a 2 hour drive.
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
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I have been watching for a Formula to pop up, too bad they turned this one into an SE
If I go look it will be Sunday, its about a 2 hour drive.


This is done in a very similar manner to the yellow Formula that "alex4mula" built. One of my favorite Fieros ever.
It's a Formula with the GT aero bodywork added. (Different from an SE, because it has the round 88/GT moldings.)
This was Alex's car.


Two hours?! Weren't you in Florida? Didn't realize you had moved.

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I love the fyrhzrd plate. It's great when people can have a sense of humor at their own expense.
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Report this Post01-24-2019 12:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I left Florida March 2016 I have been in CA for 7 months

So CA smog is not required for cars 30 years and older
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

I left Florida March 2016 I have been in CA for 7 months

So CA smog is not required for cars 30 years and older


Nope.

Gasoline powered cars 1975 and older are exempt. There is no rolling period in California and probably never will be. California Fieros will require smog checks until they finally force them off the road.

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Copied from the DMV site.....

Does my vehicle qualify for a smog exemption?

Smog inspections are required unless your vehicle is:

Gasoline powered 1975 year model or older
Diesel powered 1997 year model and older or with a Gross Vehicle Weight rating (GVWR) of more than 14,000 lbs
Electric
Natural gas powered with a GVWR rating of more than 14,000 lbs.
Motorcycle
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Originally posted by Rsvl-Rider:


Nope.

Gasoline powered cars 1975 and older are exempt. There is no rolling period in California and probably never will be. California Fieros will require smog checks until they finally force them off the road.


 
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As of April 1, 2005, exempt from smog check requirements are any motor vehicle manufactured prior to the 1976 model year. All vehicles 1976 and newer vehicles will be tested according to state emission law. This law repeals the 30-year rolling exemption.


I am wrong, I was looking at an older page.
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Originally posted by IMSA GT:

Ask him if it passes California smog.


Well that would be nice.
If I do go look at the car it would be to bring it back and put some faith into it.
Perhaps even make it a formula hybrid.
As for passing SMOG he didn't say but will ask when I talk to him.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

That's a lot of car for $5500.


This is the root of my question.
Even with the body panels and the auto transmission this is still a V6 1988 Fiero.
It has been well taken care of and other than a few bolt on modifications that don't fit well in a DD it would be a great car.
It does have to pass an inspection and it does have to have a clean title with no accidents.
I have a feeling that there is something lurking that keeps a car this nice under $7000 asking price that I see most other 88 cars are being asked for.
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
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I have a feeling that there is something lurking that keeps a car this nice under $7000 asking price that I see most other 88 cars are being asked for.


California has got you jaded.
I see lots of 88s for sale, for way less than $7K. (I paid $2500 for a very decent 88 coupe, including shipping from Vegas to West Atlanta. Spent another hundred or so rebuilding the suspension. It's going to make the perfect swap platform, if the Duke ever dies. Until then, I'm in no hurry to take it apart.)
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Originally posted by Raydar:


California has got you jaded.
I see lots of 88s for sale, for way less than $7K. (I paid $2500 for a very decent 88 coupe, including shipping from Vegas to West Atlanta. Spent another hundred or so rebuilding the suspension. It's going to make the perfect swap platform, if the Duke ever dies. Until then, I'm in no hurry to take it apart.)


There is a CA tax on everything out here.
But my point was that the car has had a lot of work done, the interior and exterior. It has lower miles for its age and cars that have had this much work usually start with a much higher asking price.
I wouldn't expect a stock 88 with normal ware and tear to get more than $2500

This was listed as an 88 Formula V6 with custom body work. 91200 miles on a car that looks this good and not "asking" for more does make me ask more questions.
I don't mind paying but I want to know what I am paying for.
The txt communication has not yielded the answers I have been expecting. Either the kid has not owned the car for long and just doesn't know or he doesn't want to tip his hand.
Either way I will have to let this one go as I am still waiting on a start date for work. But it would have been a great birthday gift if everyone wants to chip in
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

I have a feeling that there is something lurking that keeps a car this nice under $7000 asking price that I see most other 88 cars are being asked for.


Mechanically it sounds like a nice car with useful upgrades but unless the body and interior mods are EXACTLY what I'm looking for, I'd rather pay a premium for a stock Formula and not one with a bunch of mods I'm not interested in. If you like the mods though, more power to you. Consider it a $1500 discount.

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Originally posted by css9450:


Mechanically it sounds like a nice car with useful upgrades but unless the body and interior mods are EXACTLY what I'm looking for, I'd rather pay a premium for a stock Formula and not one with a bunch of mods I'm not interested in. If you like the mods though, more power to you. Consider it a $1500 discount.



I have been wanting a Formula for a while and will continue to keep my eyes open for one. This "SE" is not exactly what I am looking for but it is nice.
The scoops are easy enough to remove and sell, the mods to the interior are nice and I wouldn't change them.
But the fact that its now in SE trim and not a Formula anymore I will pass.
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Report this Post02-10-2019 12:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for NotorioSend a Private Message to NotorioEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Have you seen this car yet? (And here's a belated 'Welcome' to the People's Republic of California.')
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