All PMs have been replied to. Its been many years since these parts have been produced. There is a huge demand, I'm confident the next owner could very easily recoup the purchase price in the first year.
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Originally posted by zkhennings:Do you have any notchback chin spoilers still for sale? Would love to snag one.
Originally posted by hyperv6: The real danger here is a private person with big ideas get these and the fail then the molds get lost damage or worse destroyed.
The larger issue is that while these molds are obviously very awesome, there's a very limited number of Fieros out there. For over a decade, I saw 2-3 new Pontiac Fieros in one junkyard every week. Now there hasn't been one for 6 months. What good are cake toppers when there's no cake.
The larger issue is that while these molds are obviously very awesome, there's a very limited number of Fieros out there. For over a decade, I saw 2-3 new Pontiac Fieros in one junkyard every week. Now there hasn't been one for 6 months. What good are cake toppers when there's no cake.
100% agree. The dwindling population of roadworthy Fieros is the biggest issue with specialty aftermarket vendors. I mean, realistically, how many full rebody kits could someone truly expect to sell these days?
Every day I see another post on FB :"I'm parting out this perfectly good Fiero because I just want to take one piece off of it." or "For parts only." on a perfectly good car.
The truth is there are still a good number of cars and doaner chassis out there.
The problem is the number of people with the money and passion to spend the money to build a version of a race car many never heard of or saw.
Also those of us with good clean cars now are not going to tear them apart.
I would love to built a GTU copy of the Huffaker car for the street with an interior. But I already have often car projects going as do many others.
I would love to see someone that does glass for a number of models that can sit on these preserve and make parts when needed. That way they are protected and there if you need repair parts.
Sadly companies like this often live short lives. We are lucky these are still here now.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: .....What good are cake toppers when there's no cake.
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Originally posted by FieroJimmy:....dwindling population of roadworthy Fieros is the biggest issue with specialty aftermarket vendors. I mean, realistically, how many full rebody kits could someone truly expect to sell these days?
I can't disagree with this. I had the exact same fear 20 years ago when purchasing IRM......our cars had zero respect, were worthless (I was buying complete parts-car fieros for $200, sometimes they were FREE if I hauled away), a once plentiful field of fiero vendors was drying up (remember the BIG Fiero parts book?).............but today those fears are the reverse.
Yes, the supply is down, but its not gone either. My purchase price has taken this into consideration. Someone will make the purchase price back in the first year IF they're not afraid to chase it. This business will supplement your income very well for many years IF you're not afraid to work at making a quality product. You will not raise your family on this. you will have fun, meet TONS of people with your same interest.
Oh, and there are several folks waiting for body kits.
[This message has been edited by 007DOUG (edited 05-28-2023).]
The market is obviously a bit smaller today for custom Fiero body parts but I agree its still there to a degree. I would say that fiberglass bolt on parts like scoops, grills, taillight panels, chin spoilers, battery mounts and glove boxes would still sell. Just two years back I purchased a C4 and euro-style taillight panels for my Fieros . Installed them and they look great. The item that may be holding things up is the fiberglass gun and equipment by which to produce these. I hope that someone starts making fiberglass parts again. A while back someone came out with a Lotus Esprit nose and it was really nice. Only saw one at Carlisle but that design seem to have come and gone. If I could get one today I'd buy it in a heartbeat; Sage is still making parts but at this point it looks like a very part time business for him.
------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, Champion Radiator, S10 Brake Booster, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
[This message has been edited by Dennis LaGrua (edited 06-13-2023).]
The market is obviously a bit smaller today for custom Fiero body parts but I agree its still there to a degree. I would say that fiberglass bolt on parts like scoops, grills, taillight panels, chin spoilers, battery mounts and glove boxes would still sell. Just two years back I purchased a C4 and euro-style taillight panels for my Fieros . Installed them and they look great. The item that may be holding things up is the fiberglass gun and equipment by which to produce these. I hope that someone starts making fiberglass parts again, Sage is still making parts but it at this point it looks like a very part time business for him.
How many more molds would you need to start reproducing entire new Fiero bodies made to order..
Sale them as complete kit car bodies that could be slapped on a small modern (probably superior) chassis with a modern (obviously superior) engine.
How many more molds would you need to start reproducing entire new Fiero bodies made to order..
Sale them as complete kit car bodies that could be slapped on a small modern (probably superior) chassis with a modern (obviously superior) engine.
The issue is that the IMSA kits are a partial car. They have the front fenders, rear fenders, rear wing, wider door sill plates, front and rear bumpers, and rocker panels for the lower part of the door. You still need to use the factory decklid, hood, and doors. It's not a full kit car body.
Here are a couple pics.
[This message has been edited by IMSA GT (edited 06-12-2023).]
To purchase Doug's molds and buy the necessary equipment for making these parts will be a significant investment. Then the question comes up about what the demand will look like to justify the start up cost. I've read estimates that 30,000-40,000 Fieros remain. Perhaps enough owners remain that wish to customize their ride. Todays market might be for dozens not hundreds and the quality has to be good. A while ago Duraflex came out with this Fiero nose. I thought it looked very nice and was thinking about buying it but apparently the quality was not there and it was quickly taken off the market.
Here is another nice looking nose. Both of these remind me of the Lotus Espirit nose. ------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, Champion Radiator, S10 Brake Booster, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
[This message has been edited by Dennis LaGrua (edited 08-17-2023).]
Hi Dennis, I apologize for hijacking Doug's post, but the top picture you provided was Duraflex's Type B and the bottom, their GP-1. I am looking for either or something similar to either. Thank you. reb (Roger)
Hi Dennis, I apologize for hijacking Doug's post, but the top picture you provided was Duraflex's Type B and the bottom, their GP-1. I am looking for either or something similar to either. Thank you. reb (Roger)
I think that we can certainly keeps Dougs post going even if we say a few words that are off topic. His molds are for sale and if they are purchased and a shop set up to do the work, there should be some degree of business.
As for the Duraflex noses; they looked beautiful in pictures but were taken off the market years ago. They probably still have the molds but from what I gather they did not offer a good fit. The closest match would be Pisa front nose but IMO that has one too many lights on it. I see no purpose in having both driving lights and parking lights. It looks too cluttered.
------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, Champion Radiator, S10 Brake Booster, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
I have serious doubts about all the "other" kits you might find online. Often these pictures are photoshopped. They take one generic design, add some "Fiero" mounting points and thats it. When you mount it you will find out that the lines do not match the Fiero and that it doesn't fit at all.
Here is an example from about 15 years ago, several of us tried the "Viper" nose and it was worthless:
