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Patrick... old thread revival... by 82-T/A [At Work]
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I found this thread: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...110502-2-107504.html

No idea how I was able to find it, but I noticed that you said, "I need a longer one of these..." and well... I have the answer, 14 years later:


Turns out that General Motors made this exact same screw, but longer on both sides. It was used to attach the massive hood from the C4 Corvettes to the hood bracket. There are dozens of them on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i....M+ORIGINALS&_sacat=0
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

I found this thread: Where do I find mounting studs for attaching something like a spoiler?

No idea how I was able to find it, but I noticed that you said, "I need a longer one of these..." and well... I have the answer, 14 years later...



Wow, from almost 15 years ago. That was when I was trying to figure out how to best mount a lip spoiler from a '92 Lumina Euro onto an '87 notchie decklid.

Example of one of these Luminas...



Getting an idea of the fit...



I ended up being able to make use of the factory mounting holes on the Lumina spoiler. I drilled holes in the Fiero decklid (fortunately, all holes were outside of the trunk area), and then I simply used regular Fiero body panel fasteners (pointing up) to bolt the spoiler to the decklid. It worked out very well. I originally used this decklid/spoiler on my '84, but I migrated the decklid/spoiler to my Formula years later.

On the Formula...



Todd, thanks for digging up that old thread. It's rather bittersweet for me to see it again. One of the PFF members who posted in that thread, hellbentkrusty, was a good friend of mine here in Vancouver. His actual name was Clynt, and he passed away in 2020. It was nice to be reminded of him again. Clynt was a great guy who helped me immensely with my Fiero(s) years ago.
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Yeah, it's always sad when a member passes and all we have left are just the memories... but at least we have those. I think about Rinse, Ed Parks, etc... and other people who have kind of fallen off the Fiero list, which I still wonder about.

I found your thread because... unfortunately, one of the hood pins in my C4 Corvette is missing, and the hood is only being held up by 3 pins. I posted about it on the C4 forums, and people didn't know. I suggested that the screws may actually just screw right into the SMC, or perhaps a caged bolt on the other side. They scoffed at that, and then one person suggested in fact that I might be right... and I went searching for the Corvette bolts, and came across your post.

I'm finding, ... and I mean no disrespect when I say this ... the technical prowess of individuals is higher (per capita) here on Pennock's, than on the Corvette forums. I'm getting the impression that most people on the Corvette forums are more aficionado, and not really people who wrench. There are a few, mind you... but most of them are not.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
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I'm finding, ... and I mean no disrespect when I say this ... the technical prowess of individuals is higher (per capita) here on Pennock's, than on the Corvette forums. I'm getting the impression that most people on the Corvette forums are more aficionado, and not really people who wrench. There are a few, mind you... but most of them are not.


Fiero people have, by necessity, learned how to "make - or make do". Where most Corvette owners have any needed parts readily available. All they need is money.
Just has to do with the popularity, and commonality, of the platform.
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Originally posted by Raydar:

Fiero people have, by necessity, learned how to "make - or make do". Where most Corvette owners have any needed parts readily available. All they need is money.
Just has to do with the popularity, and commonality, of the platform.


Yes, I totally agree... that's what I can see.

Of course, I managed to buy the ONE year (1984) where there are tons of unique and custom parts that are totally not available.

It uses the Cross-Fire Injection system... and they don't make the air filter anymore. The air filter I just bought, they pulled from a shelf that was in a mock-up garage at some museum in Reno, Nevada. I had to pay over $100 bucks for a run of the mill paper air filter... :/
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Yes, I totally agree... that's what I can see.

Of course, I managed to buy the ONE year (1984) where there are tons of unique and custom parts that are totally not available.

It uses the Cross-Fire Injection system... and they don't make the air filter anymore. The air filter I just bought, they pulled from a shelf that was in a mock-up garage at some museum in Reno, Nevada. I had to pay over $100 bucks for a run of the mill paper air filter... :/


Are you referring to the filter ELEMENT? They have some on Summit.....

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Originally posted by cvxjet:

Are you referring to the filter ELEMENT? They have some on Summit.....



Well, the air filter... it looks like this:




They don't make them anymore, and they're impossible to find. There are some NOS ones still around, and people pay like $100+ bucks for those.

K&N no longer stocks replacements either....
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Seriously- talk to someone at Summit Racing- they show a selection of filters for '84 Fieros!

https://www.summitracing.co...keyword=air%20filter
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Seriously- talk to someone at Summit Racing- they show a selection of filters for '84 Fieros!

https://www.summitracing.co...keyword=air%20filter



Oh! Ok... no, I'm talking about 84 Corvettes. It was the first year of the C4, and unlike all the other C4 Vettes, it had a 1-year only engine, and a bunch of other weird stuff.
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Whoops- did not read the whole post so didn't realize you were talkin' 'bout a C4 Vette...
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You may know this already, but crossfire injection also came on the '82 'vette.

I just gave a quick glance at the article, but some issues were addressed here. Not very informative, however.
https://bryansgarage.com/co...crossfire-injection/
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https://www.ecklerscorvette...62c-25-121180-1.html

Ellert and other places have 1984 filters. $39
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Originally posted by Raydar:

You may know this already, but crossfire injection also came on the '82 'vette.

I just gave a quick glance at the article, but some issues were addressed here. Not very informative, however.
https://bryansgarage.com/co...crossfire-injection/



Yeah, it's an awesome system. People trash it, but I was really excited to have CFI. I think it's bad-ass. I used to have it on my 82 TransAm as well. I was a big fan of it.

Fun fact... it uses TWO 84-86 Fiero Iron Duke throttle bodies also.

The unfortunate thing though is that for 1984, they did all kinds of wild stuff with the air cleaner, so it was literally a one-year thing. The air cleaner looks like an 80s space ship, and rather than use two Fiero Iron Duke air filters, the Corvette one uses some crazy big one.


 
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https://www.ecklerscorvette...62c-25-121180-1.html

Ellert and other places have 1984 filters. $39


First page says it's in stock... then when I click on it, it says, "Out of Stock"



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Fiero people have, by necessity, learned how to "make - or make do". Where most Corvette owners have any needed parts readily available. All they need is money.
Just has to do with the popularity, and commonality, of the platform.


I want to respond to this again... not trying to make fun of people, but it seems like the majority of the people on the CorvetteForums (C4) are totally non-technical.

I don't know how many threads I've responded to where someone just says something like... "Car runs rough," or... "some bad thing just happened..." and they have no concept of how to diagnose or to even explain the problem. And then you provide some feedback and things on what they can or should check to further diagnose the problem... and they're clueless. I don't want to persist stereotypes... but it seems like many of the Corvette people just buy these cars to drive, and don't really have any clue what to do when they break.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
People trash it, but I was really excited to have CFI. I think it's bad-ass. I used to have it on my 82 TransAm as well. I was a big fan of it.

Fun fact... it uses TWO 84-86 Fiero Iron Duke throttle bodies also.


Fun fact. Weber designed side draft carburetors in the late 1800's. Weber made them to better harvest power from both sides of an engine.

I had a 65 Volkswagen Beetle Baja Bug with side draft Webers. A friend of mine had a 57 Chevy Bel Air with the same.

The lost art and black magic of Weber Sidedraft carbs

Most people can not adjust a carburetor. With my 82 Kawasaki 750, I had four carbs which needed to be synchronized.
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Weber designed side draft carburetors in the late 1800's. Weber made them to better harvest power from both sides of an engine.



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That's pretty nice...

My 73 VW Bus was supposed to have a set of carburetors... one on each side like that too.

I even had them, they were Carters I think, not sure. But I didn't feel like dealing with it, and it already had a Webber 2-bbl carburetor on it with a set of runners, so I left that on there, and it was much easier to tune.

I didn't have any of the tools (water / flow gauge) or any of that stuff to tune them... and I got like $400 bucks for the set... and I wasn't making a whole lot back then, so I was like... hell yes.


One of these days, when I get the 73 VW Bus out of storage and decide to finish the restoration on it, I'll probably go with something much nicer than that. I have a 2000cc Porsche 914 motor that's running... so I'll rebuild that and do something nicer... like what you have up there.
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Kind of unrelated. Kind of...

A few years ago, I briefly owned an SD4 Fiero. It had a pair of Dellorto (similar to Weber) carbs on it.
It was a thing of beauty, but it ran like... ca-ca.
I knew nothing about those carbs, so I bought a manifold and a 2 barrel Holley. Ran just fine with only an idle mixture/speed adjustment.
I ended up selling the car, unfortunately.




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